Discussion in 'Medicine Entrance' started by Dazzy, Sep 5, 2016.
What are the chances for those studying in Queensland to get an internship offer from NSW?
I'll leave it to pi or Mana (or someone else!) to answer this more completely, but if you're a prospective student (ie. hoping to start at UQ, Griffith, or JCU next year), then the picture could actually look VERY different by the time you're entering your intern year (minimum 6 years time for JCU, 7 years for the other two assuming undergrad pathway).
If you're graduating next year and starting internship in 2019 (assuming 2018 internships have already been allocated, so you're unlikely to be asking this as a 2017 graduate), then the advice from pi or Mana (or other ) might be more relevant...
Slim. It's difficult to get an internship in a state where you did not graduate. This applies to all states, and is expected to get harder due to all these new medical schools popping up. Take-home message is that if you want to do your internship in a particular state, your best bet is to do med school there.
As things stand for NSW interstate CSP grads rank higher than international grads, so while some of the latter are getting internships it is possible. Except you might get a place near the NSW/SA border where no NSW grads want to go.
Which year would you start your internship ?
Did you go to highschool in NSW?
(I'm assuming you're a domestic student)
If it's years away, the situation will probably change drastically by the time you graduate , but as it stands , you'd be a Priority 2 (if you did highschool in NSW) or 3 .
http://www.heti.nsw.gov.au/Global/internship/NSW Health Priority List for 2018 Intern Recruitment Program.pdf
So if the priority levels remain the same (and that's a big if ) and if current numbers hold (which is unlikely) you would be in with a chance but your odds of metropolitan /Sydney inner city internship are slim (but you have a chance of getting a spot *somewhere* in NSW)- especially if you apply via the RPR/DRA (regional /rural) schemes
The way it works is that the applicants in each priority are offered an internship before moving to the next level of priority down, so you would then get considered in the second round of offers (or third if you didn't do highschool here but are still a domestic graduate) . However, by the time that even the second round of offers is released, all the internships in the more popular/desirable hospitals would have been allocated (RPA, St. Vincents etc) so you'd most likely end up in one of the regional hospitals (Wollongong, Gosford etc). or one of the less popular outer Sydney ones such as Blacktown. You would not be able to go to an inner Sydney hospital unless you got extremely lucky and someone from priority 1 declined their offer (barely a handful of priority 2's in total would have received an offer to RPA/ St Vincents/ St. George/ RNSH/ POWH/ Liverpool/ Hornsby / Concord /Westmead hospitals) .
http://www.heti.nsw.gov.au/Global/internship/Outcome Report for 2017 Medical Graduate Recruitment, Prevocational Accreditation, Education and Training 2016.pdf
Could not have said this better myself!
Hoping this is the right place to ask this, but I got a rejection email from WSU and I want to remove it from my UAC preferences and add something else. As long as I don't remove UNSW or JMP from my preferences, will I still be eligible for them? (Asking because of the must be in your list of preferences before September 29th thing)
Yes, so long as you don't remove them from your preferences you'll still be eligible for them
Is it possible to transfer from an undergrad med/dent degree to a graduate one? e.g: Can someone transfer form CSU’s BDentSc to USyd’s DMD, in third year?
I don't know specifically with regard to the unis/courses you've quoted, but I think it could be possible in some situations? Theoretically?
For example, JMP is BMedSci + MD. Perhaps at the end of the BMedSci component, and assuming a competitive GPA, you could try for grad Med. Why you'd want to though, I have no idea... (unless it's a location issue/changed life circumstances etc, I guess).
Just did a bit of looking-into.
CSU's BDentSc is 5 years, and is just a single bachelor's component, and will allow you for registration as a Dentist. There is no lateral transfer system to any other Dental program. After you complete this BDentSc, there wouldn't be any point in doing a DMD, as you'd already be able to register as a Dentist (e.g. doing it for the prestige of the title or the University is a little silly, considering the difficulty and expense of a Dentistry degree).
You could, however, with a competitive GPA, do a DClinDent (at Otago, UMelb, UAdel, UQ, UWA, Sydney, Griffith... did I miss out any?) after your BDentSc, which is a Masters' Extended Degree (like the DMD), that allows for specialisation as a Dentist.
As I understand this is not possible. JMP is most likely similar to UNSW where I know students graduate at the end with the two degrees together, no Bach degree at the half way mark.
UNSW JMP Monash (& likely Adelaide in the near future) use this hybrid MD model, vs standalone MD at the GEMSAS unis.
As far as I know (for JMP anyway) you can be "encouraged"* to graduate with the BMedSci after third year (ie: they don't think you'll make it through 4 & 5). Obviously these people wouldn't have the GPA for a transfer into grad Med, but it must be a graduatable (!) degree. Whether you can choose this option for yourself though, I have no idea. And like I said, I can't really think of any solid reason why you would, anyway.
* I also think it can be more than encouraged, actually... I think it can be enforced.
This is similarly the case with other undergraduate medical degrees, as per my personal experience.
Does anyone know the cut offs for griffith uni? Thanks!
Certainly the JMP web site says that both degrees are awarded at the end of the 5 years with both the bachelors and masters qualification on a single testamur. They also say, however, the the BMedSc requirements are satisfied at the end of 3 years. see Bachelor of Medical Science and Doctor of Medicine - UNE - Course and Unit Catalogue 2017 - The University of New England
I know that some other unis/degrees that are offered as an "Honours" degree can mandatorilly transfer low performing students out of the degree to a lower level degree. This could well also be the case for combined med degrees if you fail the first 3 years and can't demonstrate that a turnaround is about to happen.
Hopefully not too personal!
Candidates who discontinue their studies in the Bachelor of Medical Science and Doctor of Medicine after 3 years of full-time study in the course may be eligible to exit with the Bachelor of Medical Science on completion of 144 credit points.
Candidates who apply to discontinue their studies and exit with the Bachelor of Medical Science must apply for re-admission and will be subject to current course requirements of the Bachelor of Medical Science and Doctor of Medicine."
Bachelor of Medical Science and Doctor of Medicine - UNE - Course and Unit Catalogue 2017 - The University of New England
D Clin Dent is a specialist degree. It is totally different to DMD and DDS which are primary dental degrees. DMD and DDS follow the North American system which requires an undergraduate degree first. In Australia and NZ, they are equivalent to the undergraduate dental degrees such as BDS, BDSc, B Dent Sc/M Dent, etc.
Ahh, of course! Can amend my post to say this is definitely possible at UAdel
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