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That’s ANZ, I think he means Australia only14000 iirc
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That’s ANZ, I think he means Australia only14000 iirc
I believe thats throughout the ANZ region, not just AUstralia14000 iirc
I agree, but bridging the gap isn't just for med, but for all vic students who are applying to any course interstate and many vic students have experienced a lot of disadvantages due to covid stuff happening. Not our fault Monash allocates more places for vic students, we can only take advantage of that.As if Monash didn't look at VIC school leavers a *bit* more preferentially already lmao
Correct me if I’m wrong since I’m not 100% sure on how this works, but since Victorian students’ ATARs are a rank compared to other Victorians who were all somewhat equally disadvantaged from covid (and if not, then EAS comes into play), the effects of covid shouldn’t be something that interstate unis have to be too concerned about for victorians should it?I agree, but bridging the gap isn't just for med, but for all vic students who are applying to any course interstate and many vic students have experienced a lot of disadvantages due to covid stuff happening. Not our fault Monash allocates more places for vic students, we can only take advantage of that.
For courses where interstate applicants compete with non-interstate applicants, then Victorians would be disadvantaged if they are not given some sort of compensation for their circumstances that puts them on an 'equal' playing field for a place offer.Correct me if I’m wrong since I’m not 100% sure on how this works, but since Victorian students’ ATARs are a rank compared to other Victorians who were all somewhat equally disadvantaged from covid (and if not, then EAS comes into play), the effects of covid shouldn’t be something that interstate unis have to be too concerned about for victorians should it?
But since ATAR is your performance relative to your peers within your STATE, if all Victorians were hit hard by lockdowns and school closures, your ATAR should not change by much, since everyone was affected. ATAR isn't a raw score, it's a rank, so if everyone does badly in Victoria due to school closures and other educational disruptions, aggregate to ATAR conversions should drop to reflect that overall dip in performance.For courses where interstate applicants compete with non-interstate applicants, then Victorians would be disadvantaged if they are not given some sort of compensation for their circumstances that puts them on an 'equal' playing field for a place offer.
Hmm... true. Then I have no idea what Daniel Andrews and James Merlino were going on about!But since ATAR is your performance relative to your peers within your STATE, if all Victorians were hit hard by lockdowns and school closures, your ATAR should not change by much, since everyone was affected. ATAR isn't a raw score, it's a rank, so if everyone does badly in Victoria due to school closures and other educational disruptions, aggregate to ATAR conversions should drop to reflect that overall dip in performance.
Now if we talk about how much each Victorian student was affected, then that's an entirely different can of worms.
im pretty sure that announcement was more like how each student will be individually assessed to see how COVID impacted. im not 100% sure but from what i've heard, teachers give a study score prediction from pre and post COVID and from that if it dropped a lot then that student may have their study score appropriately adjusted (no clue how exactly this works. im not sure anybody does).Hmm... true. Then I have no idea what Daniel Andrews and James Merlino were going on about!
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Yeah, the GAT will be the most important it has ever been this year and will be used even more heavily for SAC scaling due to the ambiguity around online SACs. Also, I don't understand how they can individually assess like 60,000 students, it doesn't seem feasible. Imo, schools will be assessed overall instead of the students themselves.“We’ll look at things such as school closures, we’ll look at things such as long absences. We’ll look at things, for example, such as significant increase in family responsibilities as a result of Covid-19 and we’ll, of course, consider the mental health and wellbeing of students during this period.”
"At the end of the school year, The VCAA will consider a range of data alongside exam results, including a student’s expected achievement levels before the impact of coronavirus, school assessments completed prior to remote and flexible learning, the general achievement test, and a range of statistical analyses to calculate final results."
Ah shit does that mean we have to actually try in the GAT this year
so if everyone does badly in Victoria due to school closures and other educational disruptions, aggregate to ATAR conversions should drop to reflect that overall dip in performance.
Could someone explain what the GAT is compared to VCE? What's the point of it? Is it basically like a year 12 version of the NAPLAN? Or is it more like a selective academic test like what they have in NSW?“We’ll look at things such as school closures, we’ll look at things such as long absences. We’ll look at things, for example, such as significant increase in family responsibilities as a result of Covid-19 and we’ll, of course, consider the mental health and wellbeing of students during this period.”
"At the end of the school year, The VCAA will consider a range of data alongside exam results, including a student’s expected achievement levels before the impact of coronavirus, school assessments completed prior to remote and flexible learning, the general achievement test, and a range of statistical analyses to calculate final results."
Ah shit does that mean we have to actually try in the GAT this year
Could someone explain what the GAT is compared to VCE? What's the point of it? Is it basically like a year 12 version of the NAPLAN? Or is it more like a selective academic test like what they have in NSW?
Yeah, you could liken it to NAPLAN, except it isn't as structured. There's two writing tasks and 70 multiple choice questions which relate to maths, logical puzzles and science sort of, as well as some reading comprehension. As jdog said, its used to form a derived exam score, but it is also used to standardise the internal assessments we do in school.Could someone explain what the GAT is compared to VCE? What's the point of it? Is it basically like a year 12 version of the NAPLAN? Or is it more like a selective academic test like what they have in NSW?
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2800 was the 90th percentile last year for the ukWhat was their 90th last year, out of interest? Guess it wasn't just us getting higher scores this year.
Doubt we would be able to give an accurate prediction. However, going off previous invite data 2020 Entry Interview Invites - Collated (DATA ONLY) it appears slightly higher than a 90th was the lowest reported that didn't have a monash guarantee. Before that the year before had a lowest reported of 80th 2019 Entry Interview Invites - Collatedfor local victorians, what is the round 1 interview cutoff for ucat most likely going to be for UCAT? any rough predictions?
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