Hi there,
So this is it – the unofficial JCU Med bible. If @Benjamin’s threads make up the old testament so to speak, I guess you can call this the first pages of the new testament. With recent authorisation by MSO’s overlord Crow, I have birthed a new JCU thread which I’ll be updating as I progress through the course in the same way that our JCU MSO emeritus grandfather Benjamin has done. I said a few months ago that I would do a JCU update “in a few weeks”. Well now that I’ve officially finished with my Year234 exams and have a bit of spare time, I thought I would get onto providing my insight into the JCU course so far, with a focus on the preclin years. I’ll be updating this to include questions which I’ve been asked from a variety of people on MSO and abroad, and my experience of the course as I progress. I might turn this into a bit of a blog if I have the time.
Quick access links to existing threads
Townsville is considered RA3 (regional) and is certainly a change for city kids, but I wouldn't say it's necessarily a "bad" change. I came from metro NSW, so the difference in vibe was noticeable when I first arrived. At times, the lack of decent public transport makes Townsville difficult to navigate without a car, and the lacklustre arts and eating-out scene does mean you lack that kind of fast-paced vibrancy of the city but in a weird way the relaxed setting is actually kind of nice. You get to know your peers better as everyone has come from somewhere else around Australia and certainly if you stay on College you're kind of stuck with people who are all in the same boat as you, not stuck in high-school friendgroup cliques. I've gotten used to it now, and I don't feel at all like I'm missing out on much compared to back home. But maybe that's because I don't go out a lot...
Townsville has all the essentials – cinemas, nice eating out areas, shopping centres and the iconic Strand which is a nice place to go and wind down. There is also a JCU city campus which is basically just a set of rooms in the Townsville CBD where you can study. But that’s about it – Townsville doesn't really have anything special and that's okay, because it is really the business district of the North. If you want a bit of “fun”, Cairns has a few extra touristy things. But when you’re spending all your time studying it probably doesn’t matter…
It should be noted that despite its population Townsville is pretty ridiculously spread out. Rather than going up and building skyscrapers, Townsville has spread out horizontally and it actually takes a fairly long time (~40mins) to travel from one side to the other, so once again why transport is something which you need to think about.
Uni life
There’s no denying it – JCU’s Townsville campus is relatively small. You definitely do not get the same kind of vivaciousness of student societies or various big events that you see at other unis such as the larger GO8’s. Events are predominantly done by the JCUSA and despite taking $200 a semester from every student in the SSA fee, I still am not entirely sure of what they have done for me over the past 2 years. But oh well – I’m sure some people utilise the free pancakes on Thursday mornings or whatever… I’ve never gone but I think there might be free music on some nights or something. Unfortunately there aren't many shops on campus, and the once thriving on-campus IGA went bankrupt late last year... so now you have to do your own shopping off site. There is a Juliette's in the library though and a few other coffee shops scattered around. But honestly, that's probably one of my biggest criticisms of the Townsville campus - there's just not enough eating out places on campus. There is a bulk-billing general practice on site which is perfect for students.
The JCU Medical Students’ Association (JCUMSA) is JCU’s typical medical student society that runs probably the most events of any student society at JCU, and gets a fair bit (but not a lot) of funding from various sponsors, including the AMA and Townsville council. It runs MedBall, funds MedRevue, does Clinical Cocktail nights and coordinates mock OSCEs for the students, among other things.
That being said, I think your uni experience is largely what you make it. If you want to start up a club, you have the freedom to do so and the uni will accommodate. I’ve helped out in MedRevue and this is something which has been a huge part of my uni life and a load of fun. For those inclined that way, UniBar is open on Friday nights and a popular congregation of many students.
Accommodation options
You have a few main options when coming to JCU for the first years. (1) Getting your parents to bankroll you and purchase a house up in Townsville if you’re rich, (2) finding a friend or two to rent a share house with or (3) go to one of the colleges.
For those that aren’t really ready to become fully independent by doing a share house, I’d really recommend spending at least 1 year on college. You get to meet a lot of new people and the convenience of not needing to cook is honestly really valuable and means you have plenty of time to just focus on your study without any worry that you might be starving yourself. I would say though that moving off at some point (2nd/3rd year is a good time) is worth it though – if I found the right person at the end of 1st year I would have moved off. I think you do need to learn some independence at some point, and being in your own house is just something much more freeing I feel. You also save a lot of money.
I went with the 3rd option for my first 2 years at JCU, and will therefore be the focus of this section by providing a bit of an overview of the colleges. I will say that I wrote most of the following when the main colleges were owned by the university - since 2020 Uni Lodge has taken over Uni Hall and George Roberts which may have altered the experience. First of all, med students tend to dominate all the colleges so you’ll definitely make friends with people in med regardless of where you go. In general, John Flynn and Saints are considered the "best" in terms of food, which is probably the biggest selling point for most people (John Flynn probably beats Saints, but only just). However, they are also the most expensive (John Flynn leading the pack except for the Saint’s MacKillop ensuite which is something ridiculous like $500/week). There is a bit of stigma that if you go to John Flynn that you become very cliquey and because it is the most expensive you do get attached to a certain demographic of people, particularly with a very high proportion of med students which isn't always great if you want to wind down with friends outside of med (which is very important in maintaining your sanity). In retrospect I’m glad I didn’t end up at John Flynn as I’ve heard the elitist culture has been so toxic for some people that they’ve actually switched from Flynn to Saints (this happened to one of my friends I met on Saints this year). The other thing with Flynn is you are forced out of your accommodation over break periods, while Saints and Uni hall let you stay there (included in yearly contract).
One real benefit of University Hall is its proximity to the Medical school. It's the closest, beating Saints by about 200m and John Flynn by about 150m. Without a car in Townsville heat, this makes a huge difference and something definitely worth thinking about. Uni Hall was good, but keep in mind one of the main buildings burnt down in early 2019 so some of the new accommodation is different so it will probably have changed slightly. A new company has also taken over so I don’t know if the management is gonna be better or worse. Full disclosure – I moved from Uni Hall (spent 1st year there) to Saints (for 2nd year) for the food. Good decision I think.
George Roberts from what I've heard you should try and avoid. I've heard the food is the worst of all the colleges, and the rooms you get make you feel isolated from other people as you share a kind of mini-flat with three or four other people, and if you get the wrong people to live with it can be really dull and unexciting. This is in contrast to the dormitory style of Uni Hall and Saints for example where your rooms are all lined up next to each other and it's a bit more sociable.
One thing I will add is that as of 2022, University Hall will no longer be operating, so this might be important to take into account when deciding your options. Instead a new self-catered accommodation complex will be opening up supposedly at the start of 2022 (next year) which now have early applications open. I can not comment on whether this is a good option yet, as the building is not yet complete, but what I can say is that it is located in a prime location literally right next to the medical school.
If you want to rank it in raw numbers, I would go;
John Flynn / Saints > University Hall > George Roberts.
I didn’t include International Rotary House because it’s non-catered accommodation. Also, for the cost – you’re better off getting a whole share house for about the same price if you find another person to share with. However, that being said – I’ve never been to RH nor have I really spoken to anyone that’s gone there. So, I reserve too much judgement there.
The actual dormitory rooms are generally fine across the board, although the heat is the biggest shock to the system. Townsville during summer is horrendous, and you need to prepare to sweat and rely on air conditioning. Be warned if you decide to get a non air-conditioned room – you will be relying on your sweat to cool you down during the warm nights. Welcome to the tropics. You get used to it pretty quick.
I spent all of third year off college, and can say if you pick the right housemates, the share-house experience is pretty great. I've really enjoyed the freedom of having my own room, and yes while I have had to make my own meals the independence has been well worth it. I don't have to wake up at certain times to eat meals, I can have friends over when I want, and I just have much more space to myself. Maybe I was never the college type, but I would really recommend moving off if you have the opportunity - just seriously make sure you pick the right people, because I have heard the horror stories of big share houses (of 4-5 people) where it only takes 1 disruptive, lazy person to just not clean up to cause disaster at home. I got lucky that my 2 other housemates were respectful and clean. I finally got a car as well which I reckon made my experience a bit better.
The Course Experience so far
Pre-clinical Years
Year 1 (MD1010/MD1020)
Year 1 is all about getting everyone up to date on the basic sciences so honestly it’s extremely dry, slow and barely even “real Medicine”. It’s structured to encourage experimentation to try different learning styles so you can find the right style for the unique styles of individuals. As I've said to people on here over and over before, first year med is definitely manageable if you keep up to date on study. The content itself isn't hard per se, it's just a lot of work and it may take a few months to get a handle on what study techniques work for you. I think though that if you do have a study regime that has worked well for you at high school, you will perform fine at Med school. And remember, at med school grades beyond a pass do not matter in any real material way, so you shouldn't feel pressured to aim for HDs. The college is pretty open about the anxiety everyone has with first year, but you'll soon find out as long as you actually can motivate yourself to actually study and learn the content you'll perform fine.
As for units, you'll do in first semester 'Cells to Life' (CTL) which is your biology subject to just set you up for the basic stuff on cells so you can get ready for histology and essential tissue types. Then you will do 'Molecules to Cells' (MTC) which is your really watered-down chemistry subject which most people struggle with. Most people get scared with the first lecture when they are thrown a lot of hard chemistry questions, but you'll find that the lecturer makes it very clear what's going to be assessed in the exams (a lot less than it seems) which makes it manageable. You will also do 'Endocrinology' (ENDO) which most students enjoy the most; looking at all the hormones and their interactions within the body. 'Ecology of Health 1' (EH1) is the last subject you’ll do in sem 1 which looks at the Australian health care system as well as gets you to look at some basic epidemiology and statistics. Second semester you move onto 'Reproduction' (REPRO) which is all about sexual development and reproductive physiology. You'll also do 'Genetics and Health' (G&H) which is your typical genetics module, drawing from Yr11/12 biology as well as some stuff on diseases. Then you will also do 'Ecology of Health 2' (EH2) which goes into some more stuff on sociology and Australian health issues, particularly Indigenous and Tropical Health. If you want to read a bit more, I'd recommend reading the first year handbook available on the JCUMSA student website; JCUMSA Handbook – JCUMSA which gives you a general overview of the course.
Year 2 (MD2011/MD2012)
Year 2 is where you start to feel like you’re actually studying Medicine. While it's more work than year 1, the work is more interesting which definitely helps with study. You kick of semester 1 with ‘Cardiovascular Medicine’ (CVM) which is self-explanatory – you learn all about the heart, the circulatory system and ECG interpretations. You also do ‘Haematology and Renal Medicine’ (HRM) which gives you an intro to the various components of blood, the god-forsaken coagulation cascades and some clinical conditions such as Megaloblastic anaemia and leukemia. You’ll find week 4 (unless they change it for future years) taught by Prof. Shashi to be a bit of a kick in the face with the amount of content, but really very little of it actually gets assessed because you revisit in much greater detail haematology in Year 4… so don’t get carried away on the nitty gritty details. You also do ‘Respiratory Medicine’ (RM) which is taught by a very passionate lecturer, but with that passion comes a ridiculous amount of extra content thrown in and too many painful diagrams which students understandably struggle to find how they could possibly assess it. Finally, you’ll also see the year 2 reincarnation of Ecology of Health, with JCU’s very own ‘Rural, Remote, Indigenous and Tropical Health’ (RRITH) where you dive deep into health conditions prevalent around the tropics and remote regions such as Melioidosis, TB and Q fever. I personally found semester 1 of Year 2 the most interesting of all semesters over the first 2 years.
In second semester you do ‘Neuroscience' (NEURO) which is definitely the most content heavy subject of the first two years. But at least the best lecturer ever to grace the earth 'Naga' teaches it and gives a 100 slide summary at the end of the semester which he keenly hints to everyone to study for the exam via. As you'd expect, you start to learn about the basic functions of the brain, the ascending and descending tracts and so on. Adjunct to this, you study 'Medical Pharmacology' (MP) which is all about your drugs and how they work in the body. Probably the most relevant of all the subjects, but still a pain in the arse to study just given the sheer volume of drugs - I managed to do pretty well this semester using flash cards, but then again I use Anki for everything (shameless Anki shoutout - it really helps). There's also 'Gastrointestinal Medicine and Nutrition' (GIMN) which gives a pretty general foundation knowledge for the GIT and a very very watered down intro to pathologies. Was actually disappointed we only got one dedicated week to pathologies... but oh well. It's almost universally agreed that GIMN is the easiest subject of second sem, probably something to do with the fact that it used to be a 1st year subject and the lecturer that teaches it has the most bare slides (and when they use comic sans... you know it's going to be good). Finally, you also do 'Psychological Medicine and Human Development' (PMHD) which is your psychology (not to be confused with psychiatry) subject. I personally hated this subject, but largely because I thought it was taught horrendously - and spent way too much time forcing rote learning of definitions and dates (ie. ADHD requires these specific features for this duration and at these ages...) when even real psychiatrists don't have the DSM-V memorised. I also didn't like all the contradictory theories of development which we had to learn. But that's my opinion - maybe that's your jam.
Overall, I really liked second year. It was quite tough, definitely harder than first year and second sem definitely had me struggling towards the end. But it felt more like actual medicine and I'm done (yay!). Supposedly, third year first sem it settles down a bit before picking up 2nd sem and giving year 2 2nd sem a run for its money in terms of difficulty. We'll see.
Year 3 (MD3011/MD3012)
Wow – year 3. How the hell am I now half way? It seems like it was only yesterday that I was having my existential crisis about whether I really wanted to study med. Semester 1 was a relatively relaxed semester, given that we only had (3) core Medicine subjects to do, hence the workload felt a bit more manageable than second sem second year. This is because you get to pick your first (and last) elective subject do act as your 4th subject. Technically you can study anything at any uni, but you will have to organise it if it's something quite specific. Quite a few people take the 'Alternative Dispute Resolution' course as you can knock it out of the way in about a week and that is the whole course finished! Other people prefer to do a language subject, or if you're like me a bioethics subject which I actually found really interesting, and most of the course's heavy lifting is done early on. It might be of note that this elective subject doesn't actually count towards your overall Medicine grade/results, but you do need to pass in order to progress. So essentially what this means is semester 1 of third year is weighted a fair bit less than second sem to compensate for this. As for core Medicine subjects, you start third year with ‘Prevention and Addiction Studies’ (PAS) which is delivered by one of the best lecturers JCU has on offer – public health physician Dr. Julie Mudd, but I’m afraid she will be leaving to Cairns in 2022 so will likely no longer be teaching the course. She has a lot of real, visceral patient stories which makes the course engaging. It was an interesting take on how to deal with addiction and the different types, but could be considered the ‘EH’ reincarnate for third year 1st sem. We also had ‘Tissue Injury and Neoplasia’ which gives a general overview to the different types of necrosis, some mechanisms of ischaemia and also pathogenesis of cancers. There is a little bit of antineoplastic pharmacology, but most of the nitty gritty detail was overlooked, perhaps under the expectation that we’d learnt most of drugs in MP last year. The heavy science module of first sem is ‘Infection, Inflammation and Immunity’ (III) which is your classic immunology subject. III was the most content heavy, but surprisingly turned out to be my best subject in the end, and if you like a lot of dense biology you'll do well.
In second semester things took a turn for the worst. Perhaps a combination of taking it relatively slow first sem, a poorly structured course design and an objective increase in workload, second sem came in and hit like a brick. I simultaneously studied the objectively best subject JCU has delivered so far; 'Emergency Medicine' (EM) taught by Zafar Smith, at the same time as the worst subject JCU has ever had the misfortune of approving; 'Skin and Special Senses' (SSS). So EM is great because Zaf is an actual legend who cares about teaching and the course is wonderfully structured to the point where he actually created about 300 'Emergency Physician Important Cases' (EPIC) Cards in his own time to aid our study. Each week follows a clear theme (ie. Shortness of Breath) and we all have fun learnignt he content. But this is jarringly compared to 'Skin and Special Senses' which is just a complete mess; there's no way of putting it nicely. The 150 slides delivered each week are dense walls of copy-pasted text from DermNet.nz with no direction given as to the level of depth expected. It's a disturbing contrast that really upsets the vibe of second year when you have a sudden realisation about week 6 that you simply CANNOT learn all of SSS, even if you had a whole year to study the slides. It's just a ridiculous amount of content, and may I add extremely dry content, that really needs a review to make clear what actually we need to know, and shouldn't rely on the lecturer saying 'this slide is important, this next slide isn't'. There are contradictions across slides, across guest lecturer speakers and the learning outcomes don't match the slides in any remote way. Anyway, good luck to those who have to sit through the current state of SSS is all I can say! At least the exams were relatively straight forward. Anyway, we then have 'Infectious Diseases' (ID) which is kind of like III, but more focussed on specific bacteria, viruses, parasites and prions which cause certain diseases in different body systems. Honestly was a bit of a weird subject - had a lot of content, and yet by the end of it I felt we had learnt very little. Perhaps this might have been down to the fact that a lot of the concepts taught over the weeks (ie. PCR testing for viruses, M/C/S for bacteria) kind of repeated itself multiple times. Then finally we had 'Global Health' which is most definitely the EH equivalent for Year 3 sem 2. Looks at a lot of global health issues (ie. travel medicine, diseases endemic to developed countries) and tries to frame it in a way that makes us socially accountable doctors. Interesting subject, and I'm glad it's been updated to bring in topical issues like Climate Change and Women's Health as both are incredibly important in our day and age.
Clinical Years
Year 4 (MD4011/4012/4013)
4th year everything changes. There’s fewer holidays, you start in late January before everyone else and you’re allocated into a “Clinical Pathological Case” (CPC) group composed of 10 students in your year at your clinical site who are in your rotation who you spend most of your time with. Throughout the year you slowly work through “Core Learning Indicators” (CLIs) which are essentially learning outcomes for each week guiding you as to the content you’re expected to know for that week. Each week your CPC group goes through a detailed case covering content from that week during a 3-hour “CPC” session, guided by a doctor or clinician. You’ll typically go through taking a history, coming up with differentials, deciding on appropriate investigations, coming to a provisional diagnosis and then briefly deal with management of the patient. Some CPC tutors might also go through the CLIs during this time as well.
There are 5 terms throughout the year, composed of 6 weeks each, with all of the terms except rural split into 2x 3 week blocks, where you rotate between public, private and campus blocks. Rural is a 6 week block at some point throughout the year, which I’d argue you learn the most on and is the most enjoyable! The core subjects you cover throughout the year regardless of what rotation you are on are:
This is a very, very brief summary of 4th year and as I mentioned I rant (admittedly too verbosely) about the year in a post in this thread below.
Year 5 (MD5110/5120/5130)
I will update this at a later date, but I give my comprehensive review of 5th year later in this thread below. Overall the most intense year, but you learn a lot and finish feeling relieved knowing your final medical exams are done and dusted!
*To be updated as I continue on the course.
The Clinical Experience
MBBS1 3 day GP placement
Can be organised by the student or locally allocated by JCU. You have done barely a semester of undergrad “Medicine” so expect to be about as useful as the potplant sitting in the corner. That being said, it’s a great early clinical experience and you can perhaps start to develop early history taking skills and take note of communication techniques used in clinic settings. One’s experience on this placement tends to be influenced by the supervisor. I was lucky enough to get my own GP back home to take me and he was absolutely fantastic – showed me around the whole place, and I even got to do a few histories by myself.
MBBS1 2 week elective
Can be organised by the student or locally allocated by JCU. I elected to mine back in my home state and had a great time in a hospital shadowing an internal medicine consultant. Once again, as a first year medical student these placements are pretty much all about early exposure to the health system and how things start to work. I enjoyed mine, and saw a lot of cool procedures in theatre, as well as did a few ward rounds!
MBBS2 1 Month rural placement
Can be organised by the student however the vast majority of students end up getting it allocated by JCU as it saves a lot of bureaucratic kafuffling and wasted time on the phone and signing extra paperwork. JCU has rural placement sites in most states around Australia, with an understandable heavy focus in QLD. I got allocated to arguably the most remote site that JCU offers this year, in RA5/MMM7 territory, and am honestly having one of the best times right now. I can’t go into detail specifically where I am as that may reveal my location, but the whole team here have been really fantastic and I’m very lucky my supervisors, PHOs and SMOs have been really supportive. None of them have put me into uncomfortable situations and all of them really do want to involve me in what they’re doing.
I will continue to update this as I go on, but honestly I’ve done more clinical stuff in the last week than I have done in the past 2 years. While most of my friends who go to other medical schools in Years ½ tell me they’ve just started GP placements, I’ve literally done an LMA intubation, cannulated, taken bloods and done a ventrogluteal IM bicillin injection all within 4 days of my first week of placement. That is seriously something you don’t see on non-rural placements, certainly not in second year!
It’s really fantastic to finally start to see some of my Medical learnings see a clinical application… I’m now starting to integrate my Year 1 ENDO knowledge, with my Year 2 CVM and MP knowledge with patients who come in with 4 day history of palpitations on a background of chronic heart failure. Some cogs than begin to turn a little bit harder when the SMO follows up with a question like “the patient has hypokalaemia probably linked to Schizophrenia-linked polydipsia so why is spironolactone a better choice of diuretic over furosemide?" There have been many moments where I’ve sat there thinking for a good 5 minutes before delivering an answer, 50% right. But you learn from these on-the-spot experiences. The answer by the way (for those wondering) is because spironolactone is a potassium sparing diuretic, which would help prevent worsening the hypokalaemia by preventing reabsorption of sodium and thus secretion of potassium in the late DCT and CD of the renal tubules. This is in contrast to furosemide which is a loop diuretic which blocks the Na/K/2Cl- apical transporter in the TAL of the Loop of Henle which leads to increased potassium loss and could lead to serious heart arrhythmias as a result. Anyway, the point is - it was a fun thought experiment to start integrating all these knowledge into real clinical scenarios.
MBBS3 3-day ED Placement
I went to a city ED for this placement for a change! It was only 3 days, so as you can imagine I felt quite out of place and definitely at the rock bottom of the food chain. Nevertheless I managed to cling to some nice interns who tried to include me as much as I could without being too annoying and I learnt some basic ED skills; namely history taking.
Hoenstly in retrospect I think this placement was a bit of a waste of time - it's good for a very early exposure to how ED's run but not much more than that. I'm looking forward to my rural placement next year.
MBBS4 6 Week Rural Placement
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*To be updated as I continue to go on placement.
Miscellaneous Questions
Specific commitments to Indigenous and tropical health can often be linked to JCU's very own research institute, the 'Australian Institute of Tropical Health and Medicine' which does a lot of world-leading research in Indigenous and tropical health; See more here; Australian Institute of Tropical Health and Medicine | AITHM.
Other links which are related to your research and show JCU's commitment; Making a difference to underserved communities, NRHA - National Rural Health Alliance, Janet_D10.pdf, https://docs.education.gov.au/sites/default/files/submissions/53785/jcu.pdf, https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws...17-18_jcu_gp_training_annual_report_final.pdf.
*If anyone above wants their name removed for asking the above questions, please message me and I will redact it.
So this is it – the unofficial JCU Med bible. If @Benjamin’s threads make up the old testament so to speak, I guess you can call this the first pages of the new testament. With recent authorisation by MSO’s overlord Crow, I have birthed a new JCU thread which I’ll be updating as I progress through the course in the same way that our JCU MSO emeritus grandfather Benjamin has done. I said a few months ago that I would do a JCU update “in a few weeks”. Well now that I’ve officially finished with my Year
Quick access links to existing threads
- JCU Interview and General Questions Thread
- JCU Written Application General Questions Thread
- JCU Medicine Entry Discussion
- JCU Written Application FAQ
Townsville is considered RA3 (regional) and is certainly a change for city kids, but I wouldn't say it's necessarily a "bad" change. I came from metro NSW, so the difference in vibe was noticeable when I first arrived. At times, the lack of decent public transport makes Townsville difficult to navigate without a car, and the lacklustre arts and eating-out scene does mean you lack that kind of fast-paced vibrancy of the city but in a weird way the relaxed setting is actually kind of nice. You get to know your peers better as everyone has come from somewhere else around Australia and certainly if you stay on College you're kind of stuck with people who are all in the same boat as you, not stuck in high-school friendgroup cliques. I've gotten used to it now, and I don't feel at all like I'm missing out on much compared to back home. But maybe that's because I don't go out a lot...
Townsville has all the essentials – cinemas, nice eating out areas, shopping centres and the iconic Strand which is a nice place to go and wind down. There is also a JCU city campus which is basically just a set of rooms in the Townsville CBD where you can study. But that’s about it – Townsville doesn't really have anything special and that's okay, because it is really the business district of the North. If you want a bit of “fun”, Cairns has a few extra touristy things. But when you’re spending all your time studying it probably doesn’t matter…
It should be noted that despite its population Townsville is pretty ridiculously spread out. Rather than going up and building skyscrapers, Townsville has spread out horizontally and it actually takes a fairly long time (~40mins) to travel from one side to the other, so once again why transport is something which you need to think about.
Uni life
There’s no denying it – JCU’s Townsville campus is relatively small. You definitely do not get the same kind of vivaciousness of student societies or various big events that you see at other unis such as the larger GO8’s. Events are predominantly done by the JCUSA and despite taking $200 a semester from every student in the SSA fee, I still am not entirely sure of what they have done for me over the past 2 years. But oh well – I’m sure some people utilise the free pancakes on Thursday mornings or whatever… I’ve never gone but I think there might be free music on some nights or something. Unfortunately there aren't many shops on campus, and the once thriving on-campus IGA went bankrupt late last year... so now you have to do your own shopping off site. There is a Juliette's in the library though and a few other coffee shops scattered around. But honestly, that's probably one of my biggest criticisms of the Townsville campus - there's just not enough eating out places on campus. There is a bulk-billing general practice on site which is perfect for students.
The JCU Medical Students’ Association (JCUMSA) is JCU’s typical medical student society that runs probably the most events of any student society at JCU, and gets a fair bit (but not a lot) of funding from various sponsors, including the AMA and Townsville council. It runs MedBall, funds MedRevue, does Clinical Cocktail nights and coordinates mock OSCEs for the students, among other things.
That being said, I think your uni experience is largely what you make it. If you want to start up a club, you have the freedom to do so and the uni will accommodate. I’ve helped out in MedRevue and this is something which has been a huge part of my uni life and a load of fun. For those inclined that way, UniBar is open on Friday nights and a popular congregation of many students.
Accommodation options
You have a few main options when coming to JCU for the first years. (1) Getting your parents to bankroll you and purchase a house up in Townsville if you’re rich, (2) finding a friend or two to rent a share house with or (3) go to one of the colleges.
For those that aren’t really ready to become fully independent by doing a share house, I’d really recommend spending at least 1 year on college. You get to meet a lot of new people and the convenience of not needing to cook is honestly really valuable and means you have plenty of time to just focus on your study without any worry that you might be starving yourself. I would say though that moving off at some point (2nd/3rd year is a good time) is worth it though – if I found the right person at the end of 1st year I would have moved off. I think you do need to learn some independence at some point, and being in your own house is just something much more freeing I feel. You also save a lot of money.
I went with the 3rd option for my first 2 years at JCU, and will therefore be the focus of this section by providing a bit of an overview of the colleges. I will say that I wrote most of the following when the main colleges were owned by the university - since 2020 Uni Lodge has taken over Uni Hall and George Roberts which may have altered the experience. First of all, med students tend to dominate all the colleges so you’ll definitely make friends with people in med regardless of where you go. In general, John Flynn and Saints are considered the "best" in terms of food, which is probably the biggest selling point for most people (John Flynn probably beats Saints, but only just). However, they are also the most expensive (John Flynn leading the pack except for the Saint’s MacKillop ensuite which is something ridiculous like $500/week). There is a bit of stigma that if you go to John Flynn that you become very cliquey and because it is the most expensive you do get attached to a certain demographic of people, particularly with a very high proportion of med students which isn't always great if you want to wind down with friends outside of med (which is very important in maintaining your sanity). In retrospect I’m glad I didn’t end up at John Flynn as I’ve heard the elitist culture has been so toxic for some people that they’ve actually switched from Flynn to Saints (this happened to one of my friends I met on Saints this year). The other thing with Flynn is you are forced out of your accommodation over break periods, while Saints and Uni hall let you stay there (included in yearly contract).
One real benefit of University Hall is its proximity to the Medical school. It's the closest, beating Saints by about 200m and John Flynn by about 150m. Without a car in Townsville heat, this makes a huge difference and something definitely worth thinking about. Uni Hall was good, but keep in mind one of the main buildings burnt down in early 2019 so some of the new accommodation is different so it will probably have changed slightly. A new company has also taken over so I don’t know if the management is gonna be better or worse. Full disclosure – I moved from Uni Hall (spent 1st year there) to Saints (for 2nd year) for the food. Good decision I think.
George Roberts from what I've heard you should try and avoid. I've heard the food is the worst of all the colleges, and the rooms you get make you feel isolated from other people as you share a kind of mini-flat with three or four other people, and if you get the wrong people to live with it can be really dull and unexciting. This is in contrast to the dormitory style of Uni Hall and Saints for example where your rooms are all lined up next to each other and it's a bit more sociable.
One thing I will add is that as of 2022, University Hall will no longer be operating, so this might be important to take into account when deciding your options. Instead a new self-catered accommodation complex will be opening up supposedly at the start of 2022 (next year) which now have early applications open. I can not comment on whether this is a good option yet, as the building is not yet complete, but what I can say is that it is located in a prime location literally right next to the medical school.
If you want to rank it in raw numbers, I would go;
John Flynn / Saints > University Hall > George Roberts.
I didn’t include International Rotary House because it’s non-catered accommodation. Also, for the cost – you’re better off getting a whole share house for about the same price if you find another person to share with. However, that being said – I’ve never been to RH nor have I really spoken to anyone that’s gone there. So, I reserve too much judgement there.
The actual dormitory rooms are generally fine across the board, although the heat is the biggest shock to the system. Townsville during summer is horrendous, and you need to prepare to sweat and rely on air conditioning. Be warned if you decide to get a non air-conditioned room – you will be relying on your sweat to cool you down during the warm nights. Welcome to the tropics. You get used to it pretty quick.
I spent all of third year off college, and can say if you pick the right housemates, the share-house experience is pretty great. I've really enjoyed the freedom of having my own room, and yes while I have had to make my own meals the independence has been well worth it. I don't have to wake up at certain times to eat meals, I can have friends over when I want, and I just have much more space to myself. Maybe I was never the college type, but I would really recommend moving off if you have the opportunity - just seriously make sure you pick the right people, because I have heard the horror stories of big share houses (of 4-5 people) where it only takes 1 disruptive, lazy person to just not clean up to cause disaster at home. I got lucky that my 2 other housemates were respectful and clean. I finally got a car as well which I reckon made my experience a bit better.
The Course Experience so far
Pre-clinical Years
Year 1 (MD1010/MD1020)
Year 1 is all about getting everyone up to date on the basic sciences so honestly it’s extremely dry, slow and barely even “real Medicine”. It’s structured to encourage experimentation to try different learning styles so you can find the right style for the unique styles of individuals. As I've said to people on here over and over before, first year med is definitely manageable if you keep up to date on study. The content itself isn't hard per se, it's just a lot of work and it may take a few months to get a handle on what study techniques work for you. I think though that if you do have a study regime that has worked well for you at high school, you will perform fine at Med school. And remember, at med school grades beyond a pass do not matter in any real material way, so you shouldn't feel pressured to aim for HDs. The college is pretty open about the anxiety everyone has with first year, but you'll soon find out as long as you actually can motivate yourself to actually study and learn the content you'll perform fine.
As for units, you'll do in first semester 'Cells to Life' (CTL) which is your biology subject to just set you up for the basic stuff on cells so you can get ready for histology and essential tissue types. Then you will do 'Molecules to Cells' (MTC) which is your really watered-down chemistry subject which most people struggle with. Most people get scared with the first lecture when they are thrown a lot of hard chemistry questions, but you'll find that the lecturer makes it very clear what's going to be assessed in the exams (a lot less than it seems) which makes it manageable. You will also do 'Endocrinology' (ENDO) which most students enjoy the most; looking at all the hormones and their interactions within the body. 'Ecology of Health 1' (EH1) is the last subject you’ll do in sem 1 which looks at the Australian health care system as well as gets you to look at some basic epidemiology and statistics. Second semester you move onto 'Reproduction' (REPRO) which is all about sexual development and reproductive physiology. You'll also do 'Genetics and Health' (G&H) which is your typical genetics module, drawing from Yr11/12 biology as well as some stuff on diseases. Then you will also do 'Ecology of Health 2' (EH2) which goes into some more stuff on sociology and Australian health issues, particularly Indigenous and Tropical Health. If you want to read a bit more, I'd recommend reading the first year handbook available on the JCUMSA student website; JCUMSA Handbook – JCUMSA which gives you a general overview of the course.
Year 2 (MD2011/MD2012)
Year 2 is where you start to feel like you’re actually studying Medicine. While it's more work than year 1, the work is more interesting which definitely helps with study. You kick of semester 1 with ‘Cardiovascular Medicine’ (CVM) which is self-explanatory – you learn all about the heart, the circulatory system and ECG interpretations. You also do ‘Haematology and Renal Medicine’ (HRM) which gives you an intro to the various components of blood, the god-forsaken coagulation cascades and some clinical conditions such as Megaloblastic anaemia and leukemia. You’ll find week 4 (unless they change it for future years) taught by Prof. Shashi to be a bit of a kick in the face with the amount of content, but really very little of it actually gets assessed because you revisit in much greater detail haematology in Year 4… so don’t get carried away on the nitty gritty details. You also do ‘Respiratory Medicine’ (RM) which is taught by a very passionate lecturer, but with that passion comes a ridiculous amount of extra content thrown in and too many painful diagrams which students understandably struggle to find how they could possibly assess it. Finally, you’ll also see the year 2 reincarnation of Ecology of Health, with JCU’s very own ‘Rural, Remote, Indigenous and Tropical Health’ (RRITH) where you dive deep into health conditions prevalent around the tropics and remote regions such as Melioidosis, TB and Q fever. I personally found semester 1 of Year 2 the most interesting of all semesters over the first 2 years.
In second semester you do ‘Neuroscience' (NEURO) which is definitely the most content heavy subject of the first two years. But at least the best lecturer ever to grace the earth 'Naga' teaches it and gives a 100 slide summary at the end of the semester which he keenly hints to everyone to study for the exam via. As you'd expect, you start to learn about the basic functions of the brain, the ascending and descending tracts and so on. Adjunct to this, you study 'Medical Pharmacology' (MP) which is all about your drugs and how they work in the body. Probably the most relevant of all the subjects, but still a pain in the arse to study just given the sheer volume of drugs - I managed to do pretty well this semester using flash cards, but then again I use Anki for everything (shameless Anki shoutout - it really helps). There's also 'Gastrointestinal Medicine and Nutrition' (GIMN) which gives a pretty general foundation knowledge for the GIT and a very very watered down intro to pathologies. Was actually disappointed we only got one dedicated week to pathologies... but oh well. It's almost universally agreed that GIMN is the easiest subject of second sem, probably something to do with the fact that it used to be a 1st year subject and the lecturer that teaches it has the most bare slides (and when they use comic sans... you know it's going to be good). Finally, you also do 'Psychological Medicine and Human Development' (PMHD) which is your psychology (not to be confused with psychiatry) subject. I personally hated this subject, but largely because I thought it was taught horrendously - and spent way too much time forcing rote learning of definitions and dates (ie. ADHD requires these specific features for this duration and at these ages...) when even real psychiatrists don't have the DSM-V memorised. I also didn't like all the contradictory theories of development which we had to learn. But that's my opinion - maybe that's your jam.
Overall, I really liked second year. It was quite tough, definitely harder than first year and second sem definitely had me struggling towards the end. But it felt more like actual medicine and I'm done (yay!). Supposedly, third year first sem it settles down a bit before picking up 2nd sem and giving year 2 2nd sem a run for its money in terms of difficulty. We'll see.
Year 3 (MD3011/MD3012)
Wow – year 3. How the hell am I now half way? It seems like it was only yesterday that I was having my existential crisis about whether I really wanted to study med. Semester 1 was a relatively relaxed semester, given that we only had (3) core Medicine subjects to do, hence the workload felt a bit more manageable than second sem second year. This is because you get to pick your first (and last) elective subject do act as your 4th subject. Technically you can study anything at any uni, but you will have to organise it if it's something quite specific. Quite a few people take the 'Alternative Dispute Resolution' course as you can knock it out of the way in about a week and that is the whole course finished! Other people prefer to do a language subject, or if you're like me a bioethics subject which I actually found really interesting, and most of the course's heavy lifting is done early on. It might be of note that this elective subject doesn't actually count towards your overall Medicine grade/results, but you do need to pass in order to progress. So essentially what this means is semester 1 of third year is weighted a fair bit less than second sem to compensate for this. As for core Medicine subjects, you start third year with ‘Prevention and Addiction Studies’ (PAS) which is delivered by one of the best lecturers JCU has on offer – public health physician Dr. Julie Mudd, but I’m afraid she will be leaving to Cairns in 2022 so will likely no longer be teaching the course. She has a lot of real, visceral patient stories which makes the course engaging. It was an interesting take on how to deal with addiction and the different types, but could be considered the ‘EH’ reincarnate for third year 1st sem. We also had ‘Tissue Injury and Neoplasia’ which gives a general overview to the different types of necrosis, some mechanisms of ischaemia and also pathogenesis of cancers. There is a little bit of antineoplastic pharmacology, but most of the nitty gritty detail was overlooked, perhaps under the expectation that we’d learnt most of drugs in MP last year. The heavy science module of first sem is ‘Infection, Inflammation and Immunity’ (III) which is your classic immunology subject. III was the most content heavy, but surprisingly turned out to be my best subject in the end, and if you like a lot of dense biology you'll do well.
In second semester things took a turn for the worst. Perhaps a combination of taking it relatively slow first sem, a poorly structured course design and an objective increase in workload, second sem came in and hit like a brick. I simultaneously studied the objectively best subject JCU has delivered so far; 'Emergency Medicine' (EM) taught by Zafar Smith, at the same time as the worst subject JCU has ever had the misfortune of approving; 'Skin and Special Senses' (SSS). So EM is great because Zaf is an actual legend who cares about teaching and the course is wonderfully structured to the point where he actually created about 300 'Emergency Physician Important Cases' (EPIC) Cards in his own time to aid our study. Each week follows a clear theme (ie. Shortness of Breath) and we all have fun learnignt he content. But this is jarringly compared to 'Skin and Special Senses' which is just a complete mess; there's no way of putting it nicely. The 150 slides delivered each week are dense walls of copy-pasted text from DermNet.nz with no direction given as to the level of depth expected. It's a disturbing contrast that really upsets the vibe of second year when you have a sudden realisation about week 6 that you simply CANNOT learn all of SSS, even if you had a whole year to study the slides. It's just a ridiculous amount of content, and may I add extremely dry content, that really needs a review to make clear what actually we need to know, and shouldn't rely on the lecturer saying 'this slide is important, this next slide isn't'. There are contradictions across slides, across guest lecturer speakers and the learning outcomes don't match the slides in any remote way. Anyway, good luck to those who have to sit through the current state of SSS is all I can say! At least the exams were relatively straight forward. Anyway, we then have 'Infectious Diseases' (ID) which is kind of like III, but more focussed on specific bacteria, viruses, parasites and prions which cause certain diseases in different body systems. Honestly was a bit of a weird subject - had a lot of content, and yet by the end of it I felt we had learnt very little. Perhaps this might have been down to the fact that a lot of the concepts taught over the weeks (ie. PCR testing for viruses, M/C/S for bacteria) kind of repeated itself multiple times. Then finally we had 'Global Health' which is most definitely the EH equivalent for Year 3 sem 2. Looks at a lot of global health issues (ie. travel medicine, diseases endemic to developed countries) and tries to frame it in a way that makes us socially accountable doctors. Interesting subject, and I'm glad it's been updated to bring in topical issues like Climate Change and Women's Health as both are incredibly important in our day and age.
Clinical Years
Year 4 (MD4011/4012/4013)
4th year everything changes. There’s fewer holidays, you start in late January before everyone else and you’re allocated into a “Clinical Pathological Case” (CPC) group composed of 10 students in your year at your clinical site who are in your rotation who you spend most of your time with. Throughout the year you slowly work through “Core Learning Indicators” (CLIs) which are essentially learning outcomes for each week guiding you as to the content you’re expected to know for that week. Each week your CPC group goes through a detailed case covering content from that week during a 3-hour “CPC” session, guided by a doctor or clinician. You’ll typically go through taking a history, coming up with differentials, deciding on appropriate investigations, coming to a provisional diagnosis and then briefly deal with management of the patient. Some CPC tutors might also go through the CLIs during this time as well.
There are 5 terms throughout the year, composed of 6 weeks each, with all of the terms except rural split into 2x 3 week blocks, where you rotate between public, private and campus blocks. Rural is a 6 week block at some point throughout the year, which I’d argue you learn the most on and is the most enjoyable! The core subjects you cover throughout the year regardless of what rotation you are on are:
- Term 1: Cardiovascular and Respiratory Medicine
- Term 2: Gastrointestinal and Renal Medicine
- Term 3: Endocrinology and Haematology/Oncology
- Term 4: Musculoskeletal and Neurological Medicine
- Term 5: Head and Neck, Infectious Diseases, Obs/Gyn (intro) and Sexual Health Medicine
- ‘Pathology’ delivered by Shashi on recorded lectures uploaded weekly to LearnJCU going over basic gross and microscopic pathology of various diseases over the year,
- ‘Family Studies’ delivered by Dr. Gorton during base weeks to take you through the foundations of paediatrics and early childhood development,
- ‘Clinical Reasoning’ delivered by Dr. Nguy where you watch a video of a history being taken and you discuss possible differentials, investigations and management,
- ‘Clinical Investigations’ CLIX) delivered by a few different clinicians where you learn the basics of medical bedside/laboratory/imaging/special investigations
This is a very, very brief summary of 4th year and as I mentioned I rant (admittedly too verbosely) about the year in a post in this thread below.
Year 5 (MD5110/5120/5130)
I will update this at a later date, but I give my comprehensive review of 5th year later in this thread below. Overall the most intense year, but you learn a lot and finish feeling relieved knowing your final medical exams are done and dusted!
*To be updated as I continue on the course.
The Clinical Experience
MBBS1 3 day GP placement
Can be organised by the student or locally allocated by JCU. You have done barely a semester of undergrad “Medicine” so expect to be about as useful as the potplant sitting in the corner. That being said, it’s a great early clinical experience and you can perhaps start to develop early history taking skills and take note of communication techniques used in clinic settings. One’s experience on this placement tends to be influenced by the supervisor. I was lucky enough to get my own GP back home to take me and he was absolutely fantastic – showed me around the whole place, and I even got to do a few histories by myself.
MBBS1 2 week elective
Can be organised by the student or locally allocated by JCU. I elected to mine back in my home state and had a great time in a hospital shadowing an internal medicine consultant. Once again, as a first year medical student these placements are pretty much all about early exposure to the health system and how things start to work. I enjoyed mine, and saw a lot of cool procedures in theatre, as well as did a few ward rounds!
MBBS2 1 Month rural placement
Can be organised by the student however the vast majority of students end up getting it allocated by JCU as it saves a lot of bureaucratic kafuffling and wasted time on the phone and signing extra paperwork. JCU has rural placement sites in most states around Australia, with an understandable heavy focus in QLD. I got allocated to arguably the most remote site that JCU offers this year, in RA5/MMM7 territory, and am honestly having one of the best times right now. I can’t go into detail specifically where I am as that may reveal my location, but the whole team here have been really fantastic and I’m very lucky my supervisors, PHOs and SMOs have been really supportive. None of them have put me into uncomfortable situations and all of them really do want to involve me in what they’re doing.
I will continue to update this as I go on, but honestly I’ve done more clinical stuff in the last week than I have done in the past 2 years. While most of my friends who go to other medical schools in Years ½ tell me they’ve just started GP placements, I’ve literally done an LMA intubation, cannulated, taken bloods and done a ventrogluteal IM bicillin injection all within 4 days of my first week of placement. That is seriously something you don’t see on non-rural placements, certainly not in second year!
It’s really fantastic to finally start to see some of my Medical learnings see a clinical application… I’m now starting to integrate my Year 1 ENDO knowledge, with my Year 2 CVM and MP knowledge with patients who come in with 4 day history of palpitations on a background of chronic heart failure. Some cogs than begin to turn a little bit harder when the SMO follows up with a question like “the patient has hypokalaemia probably linked to Schizophrenia-linked polydipsia so why is spironolactone a better choice of diuretic over furosemide?" There have been many moments where I’ve sat there thinking for a good 5 minutes before delivering an answer, 50% right. But you learn from these on-the-spot experiences. The answer by the way (for those wondering) is because spironolactone is a potassium sparing diuretic, which would help prevent worsening the hypokalaemia by preventing reabsorption of sodium and thus secretion of potassium in the late DCT and CD of the renal tubules. This is in contrast to furosemide which is a loop diuretic which blocks the Na/K/2Cl- apical transporter in the TAL of the Loop of Henle which leads to increased potassium loss and could lead to serious heart arrhythmias as a result. Anyway, the point is - it was a fun thought experiment to start integrating all these knowledge into real clinical scenarios.
MBBS3 3-day ED Placement
I went to a city ED for this placement for a change! It was only 3 days, so as you can imagine I felt quite out of place and definitely at the rock bottom of the food chain. Nevertheless I managed to cling to some nice interns who tried to include me as much as I could without being too annoying and I learnt some basic ED skills; namely history taking.
Hoenstly in retrospect I think this placement was a bit of a waste of time - it's good for a very early exposure to how ED's run but not much more than that. I'm looking forward to my rural placement next year.
MBBS4 6 Week Rural Placement
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*To be updated as I continue to go on placement.
Miscellaneous Questions
I know it can seem strange, but what I say to everyone is to really not "prepare" before uni starts. Just enjoy the remaining spare time you have left before Medicine starts, because once it does start - it's pretty much full on for 6 years with little breaks. First year is all about setting the basic science groundwork for Medicine, so all the content is foundation knowledge to get everyone an even playing field, so you won't be at all disadvantaged if you didn't go to an Australian school (ie. Internationals) or didn’t study biology at high school. If you really wanted, reviewing some biology knowledge may help you with the CTL module, but other than that I think you should honestly just find some time to relax before things kick off! I didn't even do biology at high school, and still did well in first year! Definitely do not go over the entire Australian curriculum; only small parts of it really align with the content taught in first year, and it basically has no overlap from Year 2 onwards, other than basic maths calculations which you would already be competent in.Mabshie Roey said:I just wanted to know what are the things to prepare for [in the] first-year [of the] MBBS?
I would have a look around on here; Division of Tropical Health and Medicine. It has a fair bit of information on JCU's programs and commitment to supporting rural training pathways including the "Allied Health Rural Generalist Program", which by its very nature shows a commitment to helping marginalised communities who typically live in rural areas. If you also look through the course guides online, you'll see JCU has a significant number of mandatory and elective placements in rural and Indigenous communities, both domestically and internationally which tries to foster enjoyable experiences for students to hopefully retain students after graduation in these areas.CocoDreams said:Hi Alex, I have done a bit of research but I was wondering whether JCU specifically helps marginalised communities through some specific training or teaching because I found things for rural areas but not much for other communities. Thanks
Specific commitments to Indigenous and tropical health can often be linked to JCU's very own research institute, the 'Australian Institute of Tropical Health and Medicine' which does a lot of world-leading research in Indigenous and tropical health; See more here; Australian Institute of Tropical Health and Medicine | AITHM.
Other links which are related to your research and show JCU's commitment; Making a difference to underserved communities, NRHA - National Rural Health Alliance, Janet_D10.pdf, https://docs.education.gov.au/sites/default/files/submissions/53785/jcu.pdf, https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws...17-18_jcu_gp_training_annual_report_final.pdf.
I’ve spent 2 years on college without a car, so this orients you to a particular situation whereby I’ve spent a large portion of my time literally on campus, aside from occasional trips to the town centre with friends who have cars. Look, I came from a non-rural area in NSW and the change from there to Townsville is definitely noticeable – you don’t feel that fast paced vibe. But this isn’t necessarily a bad thing – it has all the essentials except maybe some of your really niche artsy buildings or cafes and for the most part I’ve had an enjoyable time in Townsville even though I haven’t honestly spent much time “exploring” the place. After 2 years, I’ve definitely settled in and I don’t really have any issues, although the heat is painful in summer. It has the strand which is nice, but is an annoying 25-30 min drive from the uni so typically you’d only go there on special occasions. My biggest pet peeve is the lack of public transport and this has somewhat left a bad taste in my mouth, but if you have a car I guess this might not be a concern to you. Next year I’m moving off college into my own place with a friend so I think I’ll be getting a more authentic Townsvillian experience with a bit more freedom to go outside of the surrounds of the uni itself. The other thing is Townsville does unfortunately have a pretty notable crime problem, and while I haven’t personally been a victim of it – you do hear about cars being broken into on a fairly regular basis and this does make you a bit more wary of your belongings.TC787 said:How are you enjoying living in Townsville?
Cliché, but I think the friendships you build are the best part of JCU. And this doesn’t extend purely to students, but also with the lecturers. I find that what you get with JCU, being a smaller uni is you do have so many students from across Australia and the globe who are essentially forced together into a place so everyone is essentially in the same boat. You don’t have any cliques of high school friends sticking together and withdrawing which are some of the stories I hear from my friends in the city who have gone to one of the GO8s. Everyone is forced to make friends, which is great I found. Perhaps the biggest thing I love is JCU throws you into placements from Year 1 and gets you as much clinical exposure as feasible over the 6 years. I’m well into my 2nd year rural placement and am already learning a ridiculous amount of Medicine from being on the job, and I’m so glad for JCU for giving me this opportunity. I’ve also found that most of the senior lecturers who do teach really do care about hearing what students have to say to improve the course (As/Prof. Pete Johnson in particular) and try their best to really assist students. In saying this, I do have my criticisms of JCU – especially the fact that the lecturers are grossly overworked and I think some of the content they teach has not been changed for a decade and at times it seems our feedback falls on deaf ears. But anyway, I’ve been happy for the most part.TC787 said:Anything you love about JCU?
You can, and certainly many students do balance part time work outside of study throughout the week. I think the CMD recommends <20hours of work/week to keep things manageable for people, but this is of course not a hard and fast rule. COVID has meant the once rigid timetable that I had in first year (9-4 kind of thing) has become very much flexible in giving flexibility to watch lectures when they suit students. I’m not sure what’s going to happen next year with regards to this. But yes, you will have time to work if you so desireTC787 said:Does the first year timetable leave much room to work on weekdays?
Typically you’ll find the cohorts remain fairly segregated due to how the timetables work. That being said, there are plenty of opportunities at the student society and extracurricular events (medball, medrevue etc.) for the cohorts to intermingle. I’ve also found that college fosters a great environment for making friends with people outside of your year. Also, some placements in each years overlap with older years on placement. I find the med students typically congregate and you'll find yourself working your way up the grapevine of friendgroups across all yearsTC787 said:Can you describe the dynamic between the cohorts?
Not really – other than getting a bit of a feel for how the uni looks. We were also thrown into a small room before our interviews started where about 10 of us yet to be interviewed went through a few icebreaker questions to “ease our nerves”.TC787 said:Did you learn anything interesting at your interview day (that we might miss out on with it being held on Zoom)?
Each subject taught in the preclin years has some level of overlap. Ie. In year 2 you have one subject on Pharmacology and another on Neurological medicine. In Week 10 you do study the pathophysiology of Parkinson’s disease in Neurology, and then at the same time in the other pharmacology subject you learn the drugs used to treat PD (ie. L-DOPA with carbidopa). That’s what I meant by integrated. The subjects themselves are discrete, but the course structures tries for the most part to integrate them.TC787 said:Re the previous MSO posts describing an “integrated” curriculum style – can you describe that?
PBL is typically seen more in the clinical years (4-6), while the preclin years my experience is it has been less case based and more raw physiology of different topics which “overlap” with each other. This has its advantages – you get to go into detail in learning a particular Medical topic (ie. Cardio, resp, endocrinology, etc.) however one thing I’ve found annoying about it is you don’t typically get to see its application clinically immediately which is the benefit of a PBL style, which comes as a disadvantage. Also, while the med faculty says they constantly update the curriculum based on student feedback, there are certainly large segments of the curriculum which are really outdated and need a bit of a review.TC787 said:Is the content taught PBL style (/an equivalent)? What’s your experience with that been?
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