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Quick Questions Thread #2: 2018-2019

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Winger42

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Universities that accept non-standard student applications from those with an incomplete degree: JCU, JMP, UNSW, WSU, Bond. Obviously you can also apply to Adelaide in your case as a lateral transfer, and you’ll be able to apply to Curtin when you have a completed degree (along with graduate entry).
That's super helpful, thanks Crow!!
 

Crow

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Does everyone need to go through unaccredited registrar years? Or is it only for certain competitive specialties?
Nope, from my understanding generally they’re just undertaken to build experience while one tries to get onto a training program of some kind. Unaccredited positions are more common in certain specialties, I think in surgery they are particularly common.
 

1234med

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Thanks very much Crow! I'm guessing it's 1 yr internship --> resident--> unaccredited registrar years---> accredited registrar years once you're in the program/ completing fellowship
Is residency the same as unaccredited registrar years? Is unaccredited registrar years a sort of subset of residency?
 

Crow

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Thanks very much Crow! I'm guessing it's 1 yr internship --> resident--> unaccredited registrar years---> accredited registrar years once you're in the program/ completing fellowship
Is residency the same as unaccredited registrar years? Is unaccredited registrar years a sort of subset of residency?
Nope, registrars (either accredited or unaccredited) come above residents in that they have greater responsibility and likely are paid more. The difference between an accredited and unaccredited registrar position is that the former is counting towards an eventual fellowship whereas the latter is not - I believe this comes down to a) the fact that a hospital/network can only offer x amount of accredited positions as allocated by the college (e.g. RACP) and b) for a position to be accredited it needs to satisfy a certain list of requirements to ensure a trainee is gaining the necessary experience / competence to both pass the exams and (probably more importantly) be a fully competent consultant at the completion of fellowship. chinaski may want to correct me or add more here though.
 

1234med

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Makes sense, thanks very much. So is residency similar to internship in terms of not working in a particular specialty (more responsibility though perhaps)? How long does residency usually go for or does they vary?
 

Crow

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Makes sense, thanks very much. So is residency similar to internship in terms of not working in a particular specialty (more responsibility though perhaps)? How long does residency usually go for or does they vary?
I believe essentially yes, with more responsibility and better pay. If you're a member of PD, I recommend you read this thread: Login.
 

BoEaC

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Is anki popular among students in med school? Do people make their own decks or is there a comprehensive one that someone has made that relates to the Australian med curriculum?

I know in America theres the bro deck, but I figured its not a good idea to follow that one since it'll be based on stuff thats taught in American schools and not necessarily Australian schools.
 

EuXhroma

UNSW BMed/MD II
Is anki popular among students in med school? Do people make their own decks or is there a comprehensive one that someone has made that relates to the Australian med curriculum?

I know in America theres the bro deck, but I figured its not a good idea to follow that one since it'll be based on stuff thats taught in American schools and not necessarily Australian schools.
Anki is pretty useful imo, and the vast majority of peeps in my cohort use it and share decks around. However, the best way to use anki imo is to make your own one. It helps you to better learn stuff that you have difficulty with, and also create mnemonics to remember stuff
 

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hyperbole

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Is residency the same as unaccredited registrar years? Is unaccredited registrar years a sort of subset of residency?

Note: The American system is different so if you heard residency on House or Scrubs, its not the same as residency is Australia. An American residency is the equivalent of being a registrar in Australia. They tend to enter the specialist training much quicker in the American system.
 

1234med

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Note: The American system is different so if you heard residency on House or Scrubs, its not the same as residency is Australia. An American residency is the equivalent of being a registrar in Australia. They tend to enter the specialist training much quicker in the American system.
Yep know that haha! I know that in Australia, we still have general rotations (not specific to a specialty) in residency, whereas I think residency refers to specialty training in the States

Think I just answered my own question haha! Obviously wasn't thinking too clearly then
 

Sto

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I understand that most people start looking into getting fellowships, and that some specialties are more competitive/require more pgy years as unaccredited registrars (I think?), but is there a big possibility you aren't able to enter a specialty? What happens if you can't get into a specialty? Can you still find work?
 

chinaski

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Depends if you want to keep trying to get into said specialty, or if you are willing to chuck it in and try another pathway. If you're continuously unsuccessful, you're not likely to be able to continue in an unaccredited role indefinitely. There's work out there at resident/junior reg level, but just how satisfied you'd be in such a role forever is questionable. Others move sideways into non-clinical work (eg government work, Pharma, TGA etc). And those who take a different pathway (eg RACP to GP) generally start at the bottom of the ladder and try to climb up from scratch.
 

Riri

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I’m attending UTAS this year for their MBBS program and I was wondering if there was any way to apply for medical schools in NSW such as WSU or UNSW by doing the UCAT and sitting the interview.
 

A1

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I’m attending UTAS this year for their MBBS program and I was wondering if there was any way to apply for medical schools in NSW such as WSU or UNSW by doing the UCAT and sitting the interview.

Normally once you have started uni you can apply as non-standard to JMP, UNSW, WSU and JCU, however if the course is Med then only JMP is possible. With UNSW & WSU you have to apply for a transfer with special reasons. Not sure about JCU.
 

Tomato

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I’m attending UTAS this year for their MBBS program and I was wondering if there was any way to apply for medical schools in NSW such as WSU or UNSW by doing the UCAT and sitting the interview.

To me it doesn't make sense to reapply NSW med schools, is that because of the living costs and the consideration of the PGYs?
 

Crow

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To me it doesn't make sense to reapply NSW med schools, is that because of the living costs and the consideration of the PGYs?
I can’t speak for the OP, but:

Living interstate is a) very expensive and b) difficult without having a support network nearby, particularly if it’s the first time the OP is living out of home.

Personally if I was a school-leaver and had the opportunity of adding 1 extra year to my uni years and living at home AND being guaranteed an internship in my home state, I’d be taking that option every time - an extra year at that age is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
 

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Malto

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Hi,

This is a bit of a silly question and I'm not sure if I'm posting it in the right place, but does anyone know where I can find my QTAC reference number?
 

Ruffle

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Hi,

This is a bit of a silly question and I'm not sure if I'm posting it in the right place, but does anyone know where I can find my QTAC reference number?

From the QTAC Facebook page (from Sep 2017, not sure if relevant any more but give it a try and let us know if it works/doesn't work):
Looking for your application number? You can find it on your tax receipt under the Transactions tab in your online application. It's nine digits long and starts with either 181 or 185.
 

Malto

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From the QTAC Facebook page (from Sep 2017, not sure if relevant any more but give it a try and let us know if it works/doesn't work):
Looking for your application number? You can find it on your tax receipt under the Transactions tab in your online application. It's nine digits long and starts with either 181 or 185.

Thanks Ruffle! That definitely works, and I can access my application number. I think for this year the only difference is that it starts with 191 instead.
 
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