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Fili

Dentistry Student
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Wow thanks so much that would be really fantastic! Yes please - what's the best way for me to get in touch with them? Is their a chat function on this forum site? I'm quite new here and just learning the ropes.....thanks so much that's a huge help really!
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Hi everybody,

I've just spent the last 2 hours browsing this thread and soaking it all up- I feel quite under qualified in the presence of some of the people who have posted on here!

Now for the token 'here's my situation' post:

Throughout high school I played sports competitively and was able to represent NZ overseas which I'm really proud to have done. Academically, in high school I wasn't great (mainly due to a complete lack of direction) and only just gained UE by doing a first aid course which ironically steered me to where I am today.

I've just left the New Zealand Defence Force after serving as a medic for the last 5 years. In addition to this I have been volunteering/working for St John for just under 5 years as an ambulance officer.
Additionally, I graduated with a BHSc in Paramedicine through Auckland University of Technology at the end of last year which I completed while I was working fulltime in the NZDF. My GPA for this degree was 7.38 and I completed it part time ruling out my chances of Graduate entry.

I also know of a few ex military medics who have gain entry through the Other/Alternative category and have had brief discussions with them regarding their experiences.

Medicine originally wasn't something I knew I was passionate about until I began my medic training, and my experience in the provision of emergency/prehospital healthcare over my short career to date has solidified that medicine is something I am passionate about, and am willing to work towards.

My primary worry for alternative/other entry isn't not getting an offer- it's getting an offer and failing to make the B average for HSFY. All ex- medics I have spoken to have had to complete all 7 HSFY papers to gain entry into Med, and reading the posts about it on here it has scared the bajeezus out of me, almost deterring me from wanting to apply in the first place! ... ridiculous I know...

I was wondering whether there are any papers I could potentially do while in the application process that would minimise my workload should I be successful? And if so, what papers would people recommend I try to 'tick off the list' first?

Thanks in advance!
 

drum99

Member
Hi everybody,

I've just spent the last 2 hours browsing this thread and soaking it all up- I feel quite under qualified in the presence of some of the people who have posted on here!

Now for the token 'here's my situation' post:

Throughout high school I played sports competitively and was able to represent NZ overseas which I'm really proud to have done. Academically, in high school I wasn't great (mainly due to a complete lack of direction) and only just gained UE by doing a first aid course which ironically steered me to where I am today.

I've just left the New Zealand Defence Force after serving as a medic for the last 5 years. In addition to this I have been volunteering/working for St John for just under 5 years as an ambulance officer.
Additionally, I graduated with a BHSc in Paramedicine through Auckland University of Technology at the end of last year which I completed while I was working fulltime in the NZDF. My GPA for this degree was 7.38 and I completed it part time ruling out my chances of Graduate entry.

I also know of a few ex military medics who have gain entry through the Other/Alternative category and have had brief discussions with them regarding their experiences.

Medicine originally wasn't something I knew I was passionate about until I began my medic training, and my experience in the provision of emergency/prehospital healthcare over my short career to date has solidified that medicine is something I am passionate about, and am willing to work towards.

My primary worry for alternative/other entry isn't not getting an offer- it's getting an offer and failing to make the B average for HSFY. All ex- medics I have spoken to have had to complete all 7 HSFY papers to gain entry into Med, and reading the posts about it on here it has scared the bajeezus out of me, almost deterring me from wanting to apply in the first place! ... ridiculous I know...

I was wondering whether there are any papers I could potentially do while in the application process that would minimise my workload should I be successful? And if so, what papers would people recommend I try to 'tick off the list' first?

Thanks in advance!
No one has posted in this forum for ages so it's pretty sweet to get some new traffic. Do you think you'll apply this cycle? I'm still weighing it up myself - the hardest part I'm getting my head around is I have a young family and I'm scared studying for so many years would be too difficult. That's very cool man hearing about your background. I'd say definitely go for it. I actually rang the Health Sci admissions office at Otago and they strongly suggested doing two prelim papers to help out before doing HSFY - one was called Jump Start Physics and one was called Intro to Chemistry. I did both Physics and Chemistry at NCEA Level 3 but soooooo many years ago I've forgotten alot I'm sure. I've talked to a medical student who did both these courses and she said they helped her feel really prepared for the HSFY. But she also said it was a super intense year and you have to just be prepared to work your ass off. And she also said there's always alternative entry students who fail unfortunately.....

 

Clav

Otago MB ChB IV
No one has posted in this forum for ages so it's pretty sweet to get some new traffic. Do you think you'll apply this cycle? I'm still weighing it up myself - the hardest part I'm getting my head around is I have a young family and I'm scared studying for so many years would be too difficult. That's very cool man hearing about your background. I'd say definitely go for it. I actually rang the Health Sci admissions office at Otago and they strongly suggested doing two prelim papers to help out before doing HSFY - one was called Jump Start Physics and one was called Intro to Chemistry. I did both Physics and Chemistry at NCEA Level 3 but soooooo many years ago I've forgotten alot I'm sure. I've talked to a medical student who did both these courses and she said they helped her feel really prepared for the HSFY. But she also said it was a super intense year and you have to just be prepared to work your ass off. And she also said there's always alternative entry students who fail unfortunately.....

heya,

You'll be fine - if there's any issues myself and my colleagues will find the time to get you through. PM me your email address and we can figure it all out. When I got my conditional entry to med it involved having to do chem and physics and I basically thought "great, I got into medicine but I'll never be able to do it" but that's not the case. Someones always there to help out.
 

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drum99

Member
heya,

You'll be fine - if there's any issues myself and my colleagues will find the time to get you through. PM me your email address and we can figure it all out. When I got my conditional entry to med it involved having to do chem and physics and I basically thought "great, I got into medicine but I'll never be able to do it" but that's not the case. Someones always there to help out.
Hey Clav what year are you at Otago med school? How have you found it so far? Also just out of interest do you have a family down there with you? I've heard some of the alternative entry students tend to be a bit older and some with kids.....cheers
 

Clav

Otago MB ChB IV
Hey Clav what year are you at Otago med school? How have you found it so far? Also just out of interest do you have a family down there with you? I've heard some of the alternative entry students tend to be a bit older and some with kids.....cheers
Heya I'm year 4/6... don't have family no but plenty of friends who do and while there are some unique challenges for them they're no worse off than the rest of us :)
 

drum99

Member
Heya I'm year 4/6... don't have family no but plenty of friends who do and while there are some unique challenges for them they're no worse off than the rest of us :)
Oh wow that's actually encouraging to hear it can be done.........overall how stress inducing is med school? Like do you just feel so stressed out all the time with the workload? Or I guess you learn how to manage it? I feel like as an outsider looking in it seems like med school must be soooooo difficult....
 

Clav

Otago MB ChB IV
Oh wow that's actually encouraging to hear it can be done.........overall how stress inducing is med school? Like do you just feel so stressed out all the time with the workload? Or I guess you learn how to manage it? I feel like as an outsider looking in it seems like med school must be soooooo difficult....
I think it depends.... with the exception of neuro I found ELM fairly easy because I had done a lot of it before during my previous degrees.... but if you hadn't you might find it harder... then again if you're really motivated and enthralled by every word it'll be easy.. essentially there's no simple answer for that question I don't think... but it's no joke, let's put it that way :)
 

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Hi Fili and everyone in the alternative category, belated congratulations to your entrant to med or den. must be tough now due to Covid19.
I have been following MSO for some time and thank you Fili and everyone for all your contributions. I have some serious quesitons and desperately wants to get some answers, if there is any thread that anyone can point to me relevant to me would be so much appreciated.

long question/story in short:

my health science papers 2017 score as follows, I will be applying under alternative category again, (applied 2 times, 2017, 2018, all declined to due UMAT threshold, I wasnt far off only one section i was 4 points off for threshold)

CELS 84
CHEM 83
HUBS1 89
PHSI 81
BIOC 88
HUBS2 91a
PUBS 86

Average 86% exactly.

1 - please can some one take a look and let me know if this is even good enough?
2 - I am also uncertain to whether they assess grades the same across all category, or just within the category applying for?
3 - if it is within the category, will mine be good enough?
4 - applied once (2019) for med alternative category - declined - so im taking this is declined for the entire of mh life as only can apply once under this category? and I dont qualify to apply under any other category.
 

Fili

Dentistry Student
Valued Member
Hi Fili and everyone in the alternative category, belated congratulations to your entrant to med or den. must be tough now due to Covid19.
I have been following MSO for some time and thank you Fili and everyone for all your contributions. I have some serious quesitons and desperately wants to get some answers, if there is any thread that anyone can point to me relevant to me would be so much appreciated.

long question/story in short:

my health science papers 2017 score as follows, I will be applying under alternative category again, (applied 2 times, 2017, 2018, all declined to due UMAT threshold, I wasnt far off only one section i was 4 points off for threshold)

CELS 84
CHEM 83
HUBS1 89
PHSI 81
BIOC 88
HUBS2 91a
PUBS 86

Average 86% exactly.

1 - please can some one take a look and let me know if this is even good enough?
2 - I am also uncertain to whether they assess grades the same across all category, or just within the category applying for?
3 - if it is within the category, will mine be good enough?
4 - applied once (2019) for med alternative category - declined - so im taking this is declined for the entire of mh life as only can apply once under this category? and I dont qualify to apply under any other category.
Sorry man, I have no clue how the alternative category works. I only really know the health sci category and graduate category systems.
 

drum99

Member
Hi Fili and everyone in the alternative category, belated congratulations to your entrant to med or den. must be tough now due to Covid19.
I have been following MSO for some time and thank you Fili and everyone for all your contributions. I have some serious quesitons and desperately wants to get some answers, if there is any thread that anyone can point to me relevant to me would be so much appreciated.

long question/story in short:

my health science papers 2017 score as follows, I will be applying under alternative category again, (applied 2 times, 2017, 2018, all declined to due UMAT threshold, I wasnt far off only one section i was 4 points off for threshold)

CELS 84
CHEM 83
HUBS1 89
PHSI 81
BIOC 88
HUBS2 91a
PUBS 86

Average 86% exactly.

1 - please can some one take a look and let me know if this is even good enough?
2 - I am also uncertain to whether they assess grades the same across all category, or just within the category applying for?
3 - if it is within the category, will mine be good enough?
4 - applied once (2019) for med alternative category - declined - so im taking this is declined for the entire of mh life as only can apply once under this category? and I dont qualify to apply under any other category.
Hi there.

So what are you actually wanting to know? Yes you can only apply once through alternative. Your grades seem good though, did you try through graduate entry at both Auckland Uni and Otago? Oh on second thought - have you already got a degree or?
 
Hi there.

So what are you actually wanting to know? Yes you can only apply once through alternative. Your grades seem good though, did you try through graduate entry at both Auckland Uni and Otago? Oh on second thought - have you already got a degree or?
Yes I am working as an Oral health Therapist, Bch Health scienc in Oral health from AUT. My understanding is Otago only allows application through alternative category into medicine. Auckland university med based on my circumstance is even more difficult and takes a very long pathway. However med is was my second interest, so im not too concerned, but just knowing that these people wont be able to apply again kind really sucks...
So im wanting to know more about dentistry through alternative category, what are people's grades for those that applies under alternative? can we please share? just like other threads been sharing grade of HSFY.
Im 32 this year and like others that wants to advance their career, and the usual about family, looking after older parents etc, time is precious, im on the edge of giving up almost, and this is heart breaking to even think, so if anyone has any idea of more information, please share, it really means alot, im sure to alot of people like me also.

Otago alternative entry once *
My degree was completed in 2012.
 
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Pri777

Lurker
Hi everyone, I am applying for the alternative category for 2021.
I am stuck on whether I choose:
1) Allied Health
2) Other graduate

Does anyone have any insight into how to best make this decision and if there are different criteria for the 2 categories?

My instinct is to select allied health as I am a health professional with currently 4 years experience but will be 5 as of Jan next year.
 

drum99

Member
Hi everyone, I am applying for the alternative category for 2021.
I am stuck on whether I choose:
1) Allied Health
2) Other graduate

Does anyone have any insight into how to best make this decision and if there are different criteria for the 2 categories?

My instinct is to select allied health as I am a health professional with currently 4 years experience but will be 5 as of Jan next year.
Hi there. I am applying through alternative this cycle as well. I am applying under the other graduate - the reason being I have a Masters degree and come from an arts background, so I'm definitely not in the allied health category. I would say it would probably make the most sense for you to apply under allied health - but there's no harm in contacting the admissions office? They're really helpful and they email back pretty quickly too.
 

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