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Hey guys, I've searched around but I can't find much information on much updated information for the entry scheme of Adelaide dentistry. I currently study in NSW, in year 12 doing HSC right now - I can confidently say my ATAR is probably going to be somewhere between in the 99+ range. What i've deduced from other posts is that UMAT is the criterion in which interviews are distributed - and from thereon-after, your chance of entry is 100% dependent on your results from the interview - and that we're ranked based on our interview performance (idk what system it is). ATAR is mentioned only as a final threshold we have to meet (90+).

From this I have a few questions:
1) Does getting 99.95 and 99.0 make no difference in application strength?
2) What UMAT percentile was the cut off for 2017? (if first year people could inform me of their knowledge of what score got in/didn't get in that would be really helpful)
3) How many undergraduates are taken in? (cohort size)
4) Is the interview a really rigorous and competitive process? about what % of people offered interviews actually get accepted? I've heard that some interviews at unis are just to make sure you're not insane, whereas some actually look critically to pick the best from the best (USYD dent)
5) *Side question : im slightly confused by the dental degrees that are split into 2 ( GRIFFITH), if you get into the 3 year dental science degree at griffith, does that guarantee your entry into the graduate program that gives you accreditation as a dentist practitioner? or do you need to do some other test

If you actually read my whole post I really appreciate it, any information or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
 
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Mana

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Hey guys, I've searched around but I can't find much information on much updated information for the entry scheme of Adelaide dentistry. I currently study in NSW, in year 12 doing HSC right now - I can confidently say my ATAR is probably going to be somewhere between in the 99+ range. What i've deduced from other posts is that UMAT is the criterion in which interviews are distributed - and from thereon-after, your chance of entry is 100% dependent on your results from the interview - and that we're ranked based on our interview performance (idk what system it is). ATAR is mentioned only as a final threshold we have to meet (90+).
From this I have a few questions:
1) Does getting 99.95 and 99.0 make no difference in application strength?
Assuming nothing changes, then yes, no difference.

2) What UMAT percentile was the cut off for 2017? (if first year people could inform me of their knowledge of what score got in/didn't get in that would be really helpful)
Not sure, we didn't quite do a survey of those. However, you can judge from the forums by people who missed out on an interview. It appears that the scores rose rather significantly and I think this is largely attributable to the new, smaller, dental school.

3) How many undergraduates are taken in? (cohort size)
As stated previously, new numbers (because new dental school) - but fewer.

4) Is the interview a really rigorous and competitive process? about what % of people offered interviews actually get accepted? I've heard that some interviews at unis are just to make sure you're not insane, whereas some actually look critically to pick the best from the best (USYD dent)
It's competitive in the sense that at the interview stage your chances of success are usually around one in five or so of getting an offer.

Some interviews at universities are to make sure you're not terrible for the course (like the JMP which has described their principle of selection as essentially weeding out all the bad candidates - then any selection of the remaining candidates is okay).

5) *Side question : im slightly confused by the dental degrees that are split into 2 ( GRIFFITH), if you get into the 3 year dental science degree at griffith, does that guarantee your entry into the graduate program that gives you accreditation as a dentist practitioner? or do you need to do some other test
Yes, it does. However, if you fail to complete that, then of course, you don't get entry.
 

A1

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What i've deduced from other posts is that UMAT is the criterion in which interviews are distributed - and from thereon-after, your chance of entry is 100% dependent on your results from the interview - and that we're ranked based on our interview performance.
This issue^ had been discussed here before but we did not reach a common understanding. Myself I don't believe so, if it is 100% on your interview then Adel Dent would have said UMAT would only be a tiebreaker (for the last several applicants who are on the same intv score at cutoff point). But no they say UMAT is the second-tier determinator, so I think what happens is they divide the interview scores into 5-6 bands. If say bands 1 & 2 are both within the intake number they all get an offer regardless of UMAT. Then if all of band 3 cannot fit into the remaining spots they will be selected on UMAT i.e. one with a *lower* interview score (but in the same band) can be ahead with a higher UMAT score.

Other than that I can help answer 3 of your questions:
(1) That's correct, getting 99.95 and 99.0 make no difference in application strength, unless it gets to the 1-in-1000 chance of third-tier decider.
(2) From memory it was 92-93%ile for 2017.

5) *Side question : im slightly confused by the dental degrees that are split into 2 ( GRIFFITH), if you get into the 3 year dental science degree at griffith, does that guarantee your entry into the graduate program that gives you accreditation as a dentist practitioner?
It appears you are guaranteed a postgrad spot ("The Master of Dentistry is only open to students who have successfully completed the Bachelor of Dental Health Science (1577) program at Griffith", no other selection criteria mentioned) and it's good for Dentist registration. Reason Griffith does this way is the 3-year degree is CSP while the 2-year postgrad is full-fee about 65K/year, I guess because Griffith could not get gov funding for a full CSP Dent course.
 

sht

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Hey guys, I've searched around but I can't find much information on much updated information for the entry scheme of Adelaide dentistry.
Admissions Guide.

What i've deduced from other posts is that UMAT is the criterion in which interviews are distributed - and from thereon-after, your chance of entry is 100% dependent on your results from the interview - and that we're ranked based on our interview performance (idk what system it is). ATAR is mentioned only as a final threshold we have to meet (90+).
I completely disagree with @A1 - I believe your deduction is correct and the only evidence to the contrary is a questionable reading of one sentence in the admissions guide. Evidence that your deduction is correct is another (IMO more obvious) interpretation of the guide, an Adelaide student on this forum stating as much and a letter from the admissions office also stating as much.

From this I have a few questions:
1) Does getting 99.95 and 99.0 make no difference in application strength?
Unlikely.

2) What UMAT percentile was the cut off for 2017? (if first year people could inform me of their knowledge of what score got in/didn't get in that would be really helpful)
93. We have a person on this forum who missed out with 92. Big leap from last year (87 I think).

4) Is the interview a really rigorous and competitive process? about what % of people offered interviews actually get accepted? I've heard that some interviews at unis are just to make sure you're not insane, whereas some actually look critically to pick the best from the best (USYD dent)
Not particularly rigorous. You need to show maturity, that is pretty much it. In the past they have interviewed about 250 people for 40 (domestic) places. I think 1:6 ratio is pretty close.
 

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Crow

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Wow, 100% of your application is based on a 15 minute interview which only 1 in 6 pass!?!?
I don’t believe the above post is accurate. A1 and I have discussed this before, but UCAT and ATAR do play a role in place offer weighting, but they are (naturally) not weighted as highly as the interview. From the admissions guide:
Ranking for offer is based on a combination of scores from these three components weighted as follows:
• Interview results: first ranking level
• UCAT Results: second ranking level
• Academic results: meets threshold and final ranking level
The wording is unusual but to me it definitely doesn’t indicate that place offers are made 100% from interview score.

Also keep in mind that there are a significant number of people who either a) Accept an Adelaide medicine offer instead or b) Accept interstate dentistry or medicine offers instead. While the number of interviewees may be very high in comparison to place offers, technically you aren’t actually competing with a lot of the other interviewees due to these factors.
 

A1

Admissions Speculator
Moderator
The wording is unusual but to me it definitely doesn’t indicate that place offers are made 100% from interview score.
Something urges me to engage in this debate again haha.

Adelaide Dent entries posted on MSO show:
GPA 7.00, 99.75/6.90, 99.70, 99.60, 99.60, 98.50, 98.00, 98.80 second round, 97.00 second round, 5.7 GPA second round, 97.00 third round

This appears to agree with Adelaide Dent saying "Please note: The minimum ATAR to be eligible for entry to the BDS is 90.0 but usually a significantly higher ATAR is required due to the competitiveness of applicants."

If place offers were 100% on interview score with UMAT/UCAT being 2nd tier/tiebreaker then ATAR would not have mattered much provided you are above the 90.0 threshold. We have not seen any info to support this.
 

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