Choosing Between Offers: Dentistry

Discussion in 'Dentistry Entrance' started by Luken, Jan 30, 2018.

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Which offer would you accept?

  1. CSU

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  2. University of Adelaide

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  1. Luken

    Luken New Member

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    I've gotten two offers for dentistry which is great but it means that I have to choose.

    If you had to choose, which would you go to and why?


    Currently, I feel like Adelaide is the 'right' choice due to easier location, the nice AHMS building and good rep as a dental school. But weirdly, I'm just really drawn to CSU- it was my first choice. I don't know why, but CSU just seems like a nice place to be?o_O

    If there are any CSU or Adelaide students on here, I would love to know more about the course itself:
    - What was first year like?
    - What are the things you enjoy most about the teaching method/course structure?
    - What are the things that you dislike about the teaching method/course structure?
    - What is the fail rate like? (Especially for Adelaide, it seems like a lot of people say the fail rate is high and thus not to go there if you have another offer.)


    Sorry if the questions are a little open ended, but anything anyone has to contribute, I will read with utmost appreciation. ;)
     
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  2. LMG!

    LMG! UTAS MBBS I Moderator

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    The fail rate has previously been relatively high for UofA Medicine. I’m not sure if we have the same data for Dentistry.

    ETA: Will you have to move to attend both universities? Or could you avoid a move if you chose one over the other?
     
  3. Mana

    Mana Resident Medical Officer (UNDS MBBS) Administrar

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    The fail rate in Adelaide's dental course is at least comparable to that to of it's medicine course. I don't have any hard or fast numbers on this, however.
     
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    LMG! UTAS MBBS I Moderator

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    Just to clarify, you mean you’ve seen data to suggest their Dent fail rate is disproportionately elevated to a similar degree as their Med fail rate? (Or at least was according to that data set from ?2016)
     
  5. Luken

    Luken New Member

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    I will have to move state regardless of which I chose.

    By the way, would you know if there is a reason that Adelaide's med fail rate is so high? Hopefully it isn't something that will be true of dentistry too. Haha I'm quite concerned about the fail rate but perhaps it is overall not as large a problem as I am perceiving.
     
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    No data - just observation of the dental cohort which I knew back in the day.
     
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  7. Oxymandias

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    Hey Luken!

    I am actually in the same position as you - well I was. I had both offers but after talking to some current students and alumnus from both universities, I decided to choose Adelaide.

    Apart from hearing that a number of people do fail at UofA, I have heard that failing at CSU is also not uncommon. However, this was not my main concern. When speaking to a friend who is currently studying at CSU, she mentioned that there were major changes going on within the faculty regarding to course structures, lecturers and curriculum. She made clear that these changes were really affecting her performance and led to the increase of fail rates within the cohorts. She also insisted that I take the UofA offer (lol).

    Apart from the academic aspects, Adelaide seems like there are more options in terms of social life and a greater amount of people to meet and choose your friends from. Since the CSU Orange campus only has ~400 people, it can be a little like being at high school, but if that is something you like then definitely don't let it influence your decision.
    For me personally, a city environment is more appealing just because I feel I would have more freedom.
    (plus its probably easier to get a casual/part-time job in Adelaide if that's your kinda thing)
     
  8. Look@meimBellaG

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    Fail rates at Adelaide vary between years of the degree and cohort - so out of the original 70 people in my year group - 9 or so of them have failed across the first 3 years of the degree (2 more to go, but there's generally lower fail rates in the older years of the degree).
    Generally the numbers of students that fail per year are 4/5 out of a class of 70+ (except one extraordinary year 12 people failed second year - never seen anything like it again).

    As for comparison to the CSU curriculum where changes are making things more difficult ... I believe they're happening at multiple dental schools, Adelaide included :/
    Some changes have occurred in the curriculum that students disagree with but overall I don't think -from a personal perspective- our performance has been greatly affected. Like our move to the AHMS - while it seems like a 'nice building', it's actually really inconvenient for everyone (students, patients and tutors).

    Ultimately whether you choose CSU or Adelaide you won't be making any wrong decisions :) , it'll be your approach to the curriculum and further learning habits that will really define your experience in dental school more than anything.
     
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    Thanks for the insight Oxymandias and Look@meimBellaG! It's made me think about things a little differently. Like considering overall uni experience with campus life and all that. But I think you're right, that ultimately approach will define how you do. :)
     
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    Hi! I'm in a really similar situation to you, I've got offers from UADEL, UQ and CSU, at this point I'm going to UQ due to the flexible timetable, course structure, academics etc. I spent an hour on the phone to a 4th year student at CSU who said the course is really getting hit hard with resource and funding cuts with all of the major academic staff leaving which has really disrupted his study. He also said on a student services point of view its very difficult to get clear communication as the course director isn't even in the dental faculty! I'm from NSW so CSU was the clear choice but he told me not to pick just due to convenience. Adelaide looks like a fab course and the facilities are amazing, just for me UQ is closer and i know more people in the city
     
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    Same thing happening with UQ
     
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    Hi Guys, is possible to transfer from a medical science degree into an oral health degree or something similar.
     
  13. KRO

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    Yes, depending on the specific university you wish to transfer within/to and your GPA. If you mention the university/universities you wish to do the oral health degree at then I'm sure someone could give you more specific advice.
     
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    KRO, Thank you for your reply. I am unsure of the university, but I research different degrees.
     
  15. PositiveIntent

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    << Adelaide 1st yr and almost 1 semester in
    - What was first year like?
    • Something I appreciate is the amount of clinical work you do in 1st year. Lots of skills involving manual dexterity already such as handling mirrors and perioprobes
    • If you have a bio background, 1st sem is gonna be a breeze with all the basic sciences
    - What are the things you enjoy most about the teaching method/course structure?
    • All lectures recorded online for reference
    • Most days start at 9am
    • Having both a "clinic" course where we practice on each other and a "simulation clinic" course where we learn things for clinic
    • Almost all classes and dates published well in advance on a calendar (but can be subject to change at anytime)
    • Dedicated/scheduled self/group studying time
    • Small group tutorials for practical application of knowledge
    • Dedicated open sessions for bio concepts where tutors, paper resources, and diagrams/images are available for you to consult and you work through a handout at your own pace
    • SWOTVAC - Didn't have this back in Canada.
    - What are the things that you dislike about the teaching method/course structure?
    • Not applicable for me, but I've observed many people skipping consecutive lectures because of how easy it is to access online afterwards. I really can't say much though since I occasionally skip for work
    • Some students' learning styles may not mesh well with certain tutors' teaching styles but this is going to happen regardless of wherever you go
    - What is the fail rate like? (Especially for Adelaide, it seems like a lot of people say the fail rate is high and thus not to go there if you have another offer.)
    • From tales of previous cohort, the numbers seem pretty regular based on what I saw previously in some Canadian professional programs
    • You can fail if your clinic skills are insufficient.
    • My personal perspective based on the assessments we've had so far is that all testable material was found in lecture or handout and associated with a learning outcome. Therefore, testing seems fair and the only way you'll fail academically is if you skip and cram.
     
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    No prior degree. Just a few years of undergrad in biosci at a Canadian uni before I looked into going abroad.
     

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