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Otter

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Which course should I preference higher, University of Adelaide BMP or Flinder's University (provisional)? As a Victorian student, I am quite unsure of which is favourable.
 

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LMG!

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Which course should I preference higher, University of Adelaide BMP or Flinder's University (provisional)? As a Victorian student, I am quite unsure of which is favourable.
If you're a chance of getting a CSP at Flinders, I'd personally be putting that above a BMP at UAdel due to the increased ROS requirements.
 

Crow

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Which course should I preference higher, University of Adelaide BMP or Flinder's University (provisional)? As a Victorian student, I am quite unsure of which is favourable.
Does Adelaide have two separate course codes on SATAC for CSP and BMP places? If so, I’d put Adelaide CSP and Flinders CSP 1 and 2 (whatever order you prefer) and then Adelaide BMP after that, if you aren’t really bothered either way. The bonded requirements have increased substantially for 2020 entry so a CSP is much more desirable than a BMP at this point, I would think!
 

Intissar

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Hey Guys, so people have mentioned that choosing a uni based on location is important since it influences where you work afterwards. I know this is true for Internships but what about residency years and beyond? I'm choosing between Tasmania and Sydney and i figured I could complete my internship in Tas and continue afterwards in a bigger city like Melb/Syd. Is this difficult to do?
 

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chinaski

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Hey Guys, so people have mentioned that choosing a uni based on location is important since it influences where you work afterwards. I know this is true for Internships but what about residency years and beyond? I'm choosing between Tasmania and Sydney and i figured I could complete my internship in Tas and continue afterwards in a bigger city like Melb/Syd. Is this difficult to do?
More difficult than applying as an inside applicant, yes - workplaces tend to favour known quantities (this is especially so when vying for competitively sought-after hospitals within the major CBDs). Also bear in mind that NSW graduates go onto two year contracts, so the need for additional applicants for PGY2 jobs in NSW within Sydney is tight.
 
Another thing to remember is that there is a possibility you will need to move from Townsville (to Cairns/Mackay/Darwin) in the second half of your degree at JCU.
Hi, could you please clarify why JCU students would need to move from Townsville to Cairns/Mackay/Darwin?
 

Logic

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Hi, could you please clarify why JCU students would need to move from Townsville to Cairns/Mackay/Darwin?
Presumably, one might need to move depending on which hospital they complete their clinical years (Years 4-6) at. From the JCU website: "The JCU program is decentralised across the northern Australian region in years 4–6, with the majority of students moving away from the early years base in Townsville to rural clinical school sites in Cairns, Mackay and Darwin ."
Source (and more information): Clinical Schools
 

worldno8

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Hey guys,

A little unsure about how to order my preferences for QTAC.
As a NSW school leaver, should I put UQ first or Griffith? I'm from NSW so they're equivalent in terms of distance. (FYI, my UCAT was 99%).
If I put Griffith as my first preference for first-round offers, can I change it for second-round so that UQ is first? Would this hinder my chances of getting into UQ?
 

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Hey guys,

A little unsure about how to order my preferences for QTAC.
As a NSW school leaver, should I put UQ first or Griffith? I'm from NSW so they're equivalent in terms of distance. (FYI, my UCAT was 99%).
If I put Griffith as my first preference for first-round offers, can I change it for second-round so that UQ is first? Would this hinder my chances of getting into UQ?
Yes uq has no second round offers, put which one you want most in the first position.

EDIT: second round offers for prov entry. All the rejected spots go down the line to the graduate entry pool for clarification. Every other uq course offers top up positions.
 
Wait so, does UQ only offer once?

Does Griffith do second-round offers?
Yeah Griffith does top up offers, not necessarily second round but they fill rejected spots with people further down the list.

EDIT: read the edit to my above comment about uq offer rounds for prov entry
 

worldno8

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Yeah Griffith does top up offers, not necessarily second round but they fill rejected spots with people further down the list.

EDIT: read the edit to my above comment about uq offer rounds for prov entry
Uhh, sorry, I'm a tad confused.

So UQ definitely gives second-round offers for UQ provisional entry?

In that case, should I position Griffith as #1 (since it's a shorter degree) and have UQ to fall back on for 2nd round?
 

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Yeah Griffith does top up offers, not necessarily second round but they fill rejected spots with people further down the list.
Uhh, sorry, I'm a tad confused.

So UQ definitely gives second-round offers for UQ provisional entry?

In that case, should I position Griffith as #1 (since it's a shorter degree) and have UQ to fall back on for 2nd round?
They definitely do not give second round offers as I said they go to the graduate pool, and yeah if that is what you want then that is best option to put Griffith first.

And also don't forget if you don't fulfil the Griffith but you do fulfil the uq requirements you will get a first round offer to UQ, and if you conditionally accept then you can be considered for second and later round Griffith offers.
 
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Crow

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Hey guys,

A little unsure about how to order my preferences for QTAC.
As a NSW school leaver, should I put UQ first or Griffith? I'm from NSW so they're equivalent in terms of distance. (FYI, my UCAT was 99%).
If I put Griffith as my first preference for first-round offers, can I change it for second-round so that UQ is first? Would this hinder my chances of getting into UQ?
I'd place UQ first if I were you, given that with your UCAT you're guaranteed a CSP place. With Griffith you'll have to compete for a non-bonded position during your undergraduate degree, and that's not a risk I would take if you can avoid it given the increased ROS requirements with BMPs now.
 

worldno8

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I'd place UQ first if I were you, given that with your UCAT you're guaranteed a CSP place. With Griffith you'll have to compete for a non-bonded position during your undergraduate degree, and that's not a risk I would take if you can avoid it given the increased ROS requirements with BMPs now.
Wait, I thought both degrees are provisional entry?? Meaning that I have to maintain a certain GPA to get into postgrad med?

Oops, did I confuse this completely...
 

Crow

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Wait, I thought both degrees are provisional entry?? Meaning that I have to maintain a certain GPA to get into postgrad med?

Oops, did I confuse this completely...
They are, but UQ allocate CSP and BMPs on initial offers whereas Griffith allocate them at the end of the 2 year medical science undergraduate, so the bottom 28.5% of students in the medical science cohort (as determined by GPA) receive a BMP.

You need to maintain a GPA of 5.0 at Griffith and UQ to proceed to the MD at either university.
 

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worldno8

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They are, but UQ allocate CSP and BMPs on initial offers whereas Griffith allocate them at the end of the 2 year medical science undergraduate, so the bottom 28.5% of students in the medical science cohort (as determined by GPA) receive a BMP.

You need to maintain a GPA of 5.0 at Griffith and UQ to proceed to the MD at either university.
Thanks for your insight, Crow!! :)

Which other universities are provisional entry - UWA and Flinders? If they are, I should rank them below an undergraduate med degree (eg. place UAdel above Flinders), right?
 

Crow

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Thanks for your insight, Crow!! :)

Which other universities are provisional entry - UWA and Flinders? If they are, I should rank them below an undergraduate med degree (eg. place UAdel above Flinders), right?
Not necessarily - depends on your personal preference. Griffith is the only university that doesn't immediately allocate CSPs and BMPs with provisional entry place offers. If you'd prefer to go to Flinders over Adelaide, then you should put Flinders first.

Benefit of Adelaide over Flinders: Adelaide is 6 years in a medicine course so your learning will be targeted from the get go whereas with Flinders you won't be studying medicine specifically until you get to the MD. Benefit of preferencing Flinders over Adelaide is that you could get a CSP with Flinders (as from what I believe they don't give BMPs to school-leavers) whereas you risk receiving a BMP from Adelaide if it's preferenced higher than Flinders.

With UWA vs Curtin I would personally rank Curtin first because it's a 5 year course while UWA will take you 6 years, but that's up to you.
 

ucatboy

Regular Member
I'd place UQ first if I were you, given that with your UCAT you're guaranteed a CSP place. With Griffith you'll have to compete for a non-bonded position during your undergraduate degree, and that's not a risk I would take if you can avoid it given the increased ROS requirements with BMPs now.
What about the fact that UQ has a course that's one year longer? Do the benefits of being guaranteed a CSP outweigh the drawback of one extra year in school (and the opportunity costs of sacrificed time, sacrificed income, extra student debt etc.)?
 

Crow

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What about the fact that UQ has a course that's one year longer? Do the benefits of being guaranteed a CSP outweigh the drawback of one extra year in school (and the opportunity costs of sacrificed time, sacrificed income, extra student debt etc.)?
That’s up to the individual to decide - but having to do at least 18 months of your ROS post-fellowship (and 3 years total) has the potential to have a big impact on your career further down the line. For me, one extra year at university from a school-leaver age outweighs the substantial requirements associated with a BMP.

However, as I say that’s an individual choice.
 

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