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Worth bearing in mind that Newcastle is a large tertiary hospital in its own right, situated in a nice location which is also within easy geographical striking distance of Sydney. I think people can get a little myopic about "not-Sydney" locations, assuming that they must automatically be small or inferior by default (and therefore not highly sought after).
Yep, John Hunter has almost everything including a Paeds MTS. The only one outside of Sydney.
 

dotwingz

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Worth bearing in mind that Newcastle is a large tertiary hospital in its own right, situated in a nice location which is also within easy geographical striking distance of Sydney. I think people can get a little myopic about "not-Sydney" locations, assuming that they must automatically be small or inferior by default (and therefore not highly sought after).
absolutely. Not sure if my perception is warped because I’m from Newcastle but to me it honestly feels like one of the best places to train, I’ve heard it’s also got a reputation which avoids the whole “boys club” clique

But also my perception of Sydney siders is that they’re very myopic about nonsydney locations. I was kinda hoping that Newcastle might be easier to land as a cat 2 and be considered a little underrated but I think not.
 

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jayson

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You’ve provided literally no information, so this is impossible to answer.....
Haha 6 years or 7 years.But Griffith May
Without knowing anything else, if you think you can maintain a 5.0 GPA then I would preference like this

UQ CSP > Griffith > UQ BMP
Without knowing anything else, if you think you can maintain a 5.0 GPA then I would preference like this

UQ CSP > Griffith > UQ BMP
Although UQ is 7 years program?
 

dotwingz

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Although UQ is 7 years program?
Ahh true, forgot about the 2 year medical science. The thing about UQ is that your CSP/BMP is locked in at the start of your degree unlike Griffith which is decided at the end of year 2.

It might be worth taking the one year extra to avoid the BMP
 

chinaski

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absolutely. Not sure if my perception is warped because I’m from Newcastle but to me it honestly feels like one of the best places to train, I’ve heard it’s also got a reputation which avoids the whole “boys club” clique

But also my perception of Sydney siders is that they’re very myopic about nonsydney locations. I was kinda hoping that Newcastle might be easier to land as a cat 2 and be considered a little underrated but I think not.
True, people in large cities tend not to see past the ends of their own noses (I would say this is especially the case in Sydney). Nonetheless, even a very cursory look at the infrastructure and number of beds in Newcastle would quickly disabuse the impression that it's a backwater. One might reasonably expect final year med students to think strategically enough to do a quick google search on possible hospital networks - frankly they're doing themselves a disservice if they think dogmatically along "Sydney CBD vs The Rest" lines.
 

A1

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Cat 5 - interstate int'l grads : 2
A challenge question: with these two Cat5 positions does it mean they were so undesired that Cat4s would rather go without than take them?

If the answer is Cat5s got them because there were no more Cat4s in waiting then NSW int'l grads have been looked after well.
 

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mav

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UQ Bonded provisional entry, or JMP at UNE??? I'm thinking about the time my course will take, the ramifications of working rurally for 3 years, and also potential career prospects (if one uni will set you up better than the other in competitive specialties) but am so unsure and conflicted. Please help!
 

dotwingz

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UQ Bonded provisional entry, or JMP at UNE??? I'm thinking about the time my course will take, the ramifications of working rurally for 3 years, and also potential career prospects (if one uni will set you up better than the other in competitive specialties) but am so unsure and conflicted. Please help!
JMP > UQ any day. 5 year vs 7 year, UQ is 5.0 provisional.
 

Dusk

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Congratulations to all those who have/ just got offers, and good luck to those waiting!! You got this!!!!
So I need some help with uni offers...
I got unbonded for UQ and Adelaide but bonded for UNSW. I live in NSW, but I still don't know which one to choose...? Its like each uni has its pros and cons rn (e.g. if I take unbonded I have to move interstate for 7/6 years, bonded lets me stay at home).
 

TKAO

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Congratulations to all those who have/ just got offers, and good luck to those waiting!! You got this!!!!
So I need some help with uni offers...
I got unbonded for UQ and Adelaide but bonded for UNSW. I live in NSW, but I still don't know which one to choose...? Its like each uni has its pros and cons rn (e.g. if I take unbonded I have to move interstate for 7/6 years, bonded lets me stay at home).
I would probably go UNSW bonded just because you live in Sydney. 6 year course and you can stay with your fam at home so you save money. Bonded while being less desirable than unvonded, is not a death sentence and in my opinion should not be avoided like the plague all the time.
 

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LWH

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Hi Everyone

I need help on deciding which to choose...

I am a school leaver entering into medicine next year. I got 2 offers and am struggling to decide between the two.
1. Monash Uni, Bonded
2. UQ Provisional, Non Bonded

I live in Melbourne. I would also like to eventually return to Melbourne to practise medicine here.

Appreciate any advice that you guys have

Thank you so much
 
Hi Everyone

I need help on deciding which to choose...

I am a school leaver entering into medicine next year. I got 2 offers and am struggling to decide between the two.
1. Monash Uni, Bonded
2. UQ Provisional, Non Bonded

I live in Melbourne. I would also like to eventually return to Melbourne to practise medicine here.

Appreciate any advice that you guys have

Thank you so much
congrats on your offers!

firstly I would suggest reading the government document outlining the requirements for return of service for a BMP.
If that seems okay to you, then I would choose monash.
it is 2 year shorter than UQ (5 vs 7) and not provisional, meaning you won’t have to keep up a 5.0 GPA. Although a 5.0 is *typically* not too tricky, you never know what could happen.
Also considering you live in Melbourne, monash would be considerably cheaper and you can stay with family and friends.
Next, going to monash will enable you to hopefully practice in Melbourne more easily e.g. internship in vic.

however,
If you read the BMP document (and read the BMP advice thread) + seek external advice and cannot fathom it then UQ is your best option. It means no 3 year ROS after you finish.
UQ is also a great uni!

sorry for the long reply!
 

ian3150

Lurker
Hey everyone

I was fortunate enough to achieve a 99.90 ATAR this year and received offers for both Unimelb's Bachelor of Biomed (Chancellors Scholars) degree and Monash's Bachelor of medical science/Doctor of medicine degree (bonded). As someone very passionate for medicine, who wants to practice medicine in the city (and perhaps one day overseas), I'm in a bit of a dilemma.

Firstly, UniMelb's prestige gives lots of buying power on an international scale to practice medicine overseas(so this option will always be available to me), but the course is 2 years longer, it's much further away and it's contingent on passing an MMI interview in the third year. If I do manage to pass though, I'll receive a nonbonded CSP spot in postgrad med, as opposed to Monash's bonded.

On the other hand, Monash's degree is a lot faster, much closer to me (10min bus ride as opposed to 1.5hr commute) and from my research, provides more clinical training during medical school. There's also the guarantee of a med degree if I accept, whereas for unimelb there's always a slight chance of failing the interview. However, the downside of this is that I get put under contract to go to a place of workforce shortage for 3years (usually remote/rural locations) IN ADDITION to the 5years of medical school, effectively extending the course by 3yrs (so 8yrs Monash as opposed to 7yrs unimelb)

Just wondering if anyone has thoughts on this and which uni you'd choose and why?? Any help is appreciated at this point cuz yaboi is panicking. And if you've been in a similar position I'd love to hear which one you chose! And preferably ASAP cuz I gotta decide by the Jan 24th (

PS. really sorry if this post is in the wrong section!
 

Helmut

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Firstly, UniMelb's prestige gives lots of buying power on an international scale to practice medicine overseas (so this option will always be available to me)
The perceived "prestige" of one's university has no bearing on whether or not you'll gain employment, or even registration, as a doctor overseas.
 

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ian3150

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The perceived "prestige" of one's university has no bearing on whether or not you'll gain employment, or even registration, as a doctor overseas.
Thanks for the reply! By prestige I was not only referring to the reputation of the uni (definitely unimelb is more heard of than Monash internationally though) but also unimelbs better connections with internship opportunities like Royal Melb Hospital, The Alfred, St Vincent's etc. which would surely make an employer look twice at over compared to Monash (I.e it'd be like Harvard in US compared to another sub-ivy league uni)
 

LMG!

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ian3150, as much as I don’t personally advocate for this, you are not locked into the three year BMP, even after you sign the contract, and have the option of buying your way out when the time comes and if it is financially feasible. More discussion on this can be found in the BMP thread and should go there if you have further questions.
 
Thanks for the reply! By prestige I was not only referring to the reputation of the uni (definitely unimelb is more heard of than Monash internationally though) but also unimelbs better connections with internship opportunities like Royal Melb Hospital, The Alfred, St Vincent's etc. which would surely make an employer look twice at over compared to Monash (I.e it'd be like Harvard in US compared to another sub-ivy league uni)
Again med-school reputation in Australia really can't be compared to Ivy vs. Non-Ivy league schools in the US and I'd highly suggest not considering it when making a choice in deciding which med school to apply too. I personally know Monash graduates who have interned at the Alfred, St Vincent and the Royal Melbourne Hospital, and Monash students rotate through the Alfred if that is any concern to you.
 

LWH

Lurker
congrats on your offers!

firstly I would suggest reading the government document outlining the requirements for return of service for a BMP.
If that seems okay to you, then I would choose monash.
it is 2 year shorter than UQ (5 vs 7) and not provisional, meaning you won’t have to keep up a 5.0 GPA. Although a 5.0 is *typically* not too tricky, you never know what could happen.
Also considering you live in Melbourne, monash would be considerably cheaper and you can stay with family and friends.
Next, going to monash will enable you to hopefully practice in Melbourne more easily e.g. internship in vic.

however,
If you read the BMP document (and read the BMP advice thread) + seek external advice and cannot fathom it then UQ is your best option. It means no 3 year ROS after you finish.
UQ is also a great uni!

sorry for the long reply!
Thank you, Aspiringlol. Appreciate it
 

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