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Griffith Dentistry Entry 2019

Crow

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Sorry! I didn’t mean it to come across in a bad way. My partners in 4th year currently and they started off with 120 (total #) majority are international/non school leavers
It definitely didn't, no need for apologies! :) Yes, no doubt they're making a fair amount of $$ with the final 2 years being FFP and having a bunch of international enrollments too!
 

sal123

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I think it's more that Griffith have the option to calculate scores as they please if they want to do it differently to how QTAC has done it - I think for the most part Griffith will just use what QTAC has, but different institutions sometimes rank applicants differently depending on the course, as well as the applicant's tertiary record. An example would be that someone with a first class (standalone) honours is given a GPA of 7 when applying to Griffith dentistry, but if they applied to JCU dentistry their academic rank would only be calculated based off the results in their undergraduate degree. QTAC's calculated selection rank for this applicant would probably come from a combination of the undergrad degree and the honours result; therefore Griffith and JCU have both ranked this applicant in a different way to how QTAC did. [Please note that I am no expert on this particular matter and if someone else has more information, I'd be pleased to hear it.]

As for asking Griffith how they have calculated your GPA, I doubt that they would provide you with any information, but there would be no harm in asking.

I might've misunderstood so any clarification would be most helpful - you said griffith will just use what QTAC has but when I contacted QTAC they said my GPA is a 6 (i got first class honours but got below 85), but i thought griffith awarded a GPA of 7 no matter what mark you got as long as it is first class honours... based off what you said would griffith follow QTAC's calculation or their own calculation?
 

Dentine

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I might've misunderstood so any clarification would be most helpful - you said griffith will just use what QTAC has but when I contacted QTAC they said my GPA is a 6 (i got first class honours but got below 85), but i thought griffith awarded a GPA of 7 no matter what mark you got as long as it is first class honours... based off what you said would griffith follow QTAC's calculation or their own calculation?
I could be wrong but I think crow was saying that generally for example with normal bachelors degrees Griffith will use the QTAC calculation but because they have that honours rule, then they will see it’s honours on your application and use the class
 

sal123

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I could be wrong but I think crow was saying that generally for example with normal bachelors degrees Griffith will use the QTAC calculation but because they have that honours rule, then they will see it’s honours on your application and use the class
yeah i think youre probably right.

With the first round offers coming out so soon im just stressing, thinking of all worst case scenarios that might happen.. Gonna be a long 11 days haha kinda regret not applying to UAC
 

Crow

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Yep, what Dentine said. For school-leavers and those with a simple tertiary record (i.e. a single bachelor’s degree) I’d imagine they just use the QTAC calculation. For those with a more complicated tertiary record (i.e. honours, masters, PhDs, multiple bachelor’s degrees etc), the universities may choose to calculate your entry rank differently - see my example above RE: Griffith vs JCU dentistry.
 

sal123

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Yep, what Dentine said. For school-leavers and those with a simple tertiary record (i.e. a single bachelor’s degree) I’d imagine they just use the QTAC calculation. For those with a more complicated tertiary record (i.e. honours, masters, PhDs, multiple bachelor’s degrees etc), the universities may choose to calculate your entry rank differently - see my example above RE: Griffith vs JCU dentistry.
oh so essentially if you applied to lets say griffith and JCU, you wont necessarily have the same mark/rank as they calculate things differently right?
like griffith would award you a gpa of 7 purely based on your honours but JCU will award you a GPA based on the average of your last three years?
 

Crow

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oh so essentially if you applied to lets say griffith and JCU, you wont necessarily have the same mark/rank as they calculate things differently right?
like griffith would award you a gpa of 7 purely based on your honours but JCU will award you a GPA based on the average of your last three years?
That’s my understanding, yes. JCU outright states how they assess academic rank for non-standard applicants, though. Griffith tends to be a bit more secretive, it seems.
 

Dentine

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yeah i think youre probably right.

With the first round offers coming out so soon im just stressing, thinking of all worst case scenarios that might happen.. Gonna be a long 11 days haha kinda regret not applying to UAC
Completely understandable Sal, dw your not alone - id rather not get in on missing the cutoff then not getting in on a technicality. It’s tough because there’s no definitive answer.

You and me both, were both only QTAC applicants so at least we’re in this together, the days following the UAC release will be pretty tough haha
 

sal123

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Completely understandable Sal, dw your not alone - id rather not get in on missing the cutoff then not getting in on a technicality. It’s tough because there’s no definitive answer.

You and me both, were both only QTAC applicants so at least we’re in this together, the days following the UAC release will be pretty tough haha
yeah thats definitely my biggest worry haha. Would hate to have not gotten in due to a technicality, and thing is, its happened before to someone (was reported here on MSO) so who knows, could happen again.

definitely haha, gonna be a long 5 days from when uac offers are released
 

DentalHen34583

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Hello,
If I receive credit transfer for my first year of Bachelor of Dental Health Science at GU, will that decrease my tuition cost as an international student?

Thanks in advance!
 

MrWhippe

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A few MSO members have checked and been confirmed both UAC and QTAC go by the grade codes on your transcript, 80+ or 85+ HD doesn't matter to them.

It's all "scientific" rather than generous. For Gemsas 70-74 = 6, 75-79 = 6.5, 80+ = 7
If your transcript shows a mark between 75-79 you get 6.5, not 6.75
Otoh if it shows Distinction without a mark (like at oddball UQ) it could be anywhere between 75-84, thus between 6.5 & 7 = 6.75
I'm not quite understanding this.

Say I were to pursue a Biomedicine degree at La Trobe. If I did the suggested 8 units - 4 a semester - and thus FTE (or can 6 units be considered FTE?) and scored 7 subjects at 85+, and 1 subject at 82, would that be [7x7 +1x6]/8= 6.875. Or would the 82 be calculated higher than a 6 e.g. [7x7 +1x6.5] = 6.93.
 

A1

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Say I were to pursue a Biomedicine degree at La Trobe. If I did the suggested 8 units - 4 a semester - and thus FTE (or can 6 units be considered FTE?) and scored 7 subjects at 85+, and 1 subject at 82, would that be [7x7 +1x6]/8= 6.875. Or would the 82 be calculated higher than a 6 e.g. [7x7 +1x6.5] = 6.93.
1) If you did 6 units it would be 6/8= 0.75 of a FTE (full-time equiv) year. Even if you did those 6 units part-time over two years it'd still be 0.75 FTE year.

2) The 6.5 or 6.75 is only used by GEMSAS for graduate entry. For non-standards the TACs simply base on your grade CODES, regardless of your marks. Thus for LaTrobe students 7x 85+ and 1x 82 are all HDs so GPA= 7.
 

MrWhippe

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1) If you did 6 units it would be 6/8= 0.75 of a FTE (full-time equiv) year. Even if you did those 6 units part-time over two years it'd still be 0.75 FTE year.

2) The 6.5 or 6.75 is only used by GEMSAS for graduate entry. For non-standards the TACs simply base on your grade CODES, regardless of your marks. Thus for LaTrobe students 7x 85+ and 1x 82 are all HDs so GPA= 7.
I see! So if I want a GPA of 7 for Griffith, does that mean I would need 8 subjects all over 80? I was under the assumption it was 8 subjects over 85.
 

Dullah

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That’s my understanding, yes. JCU outright states how they assess academic rank for non-standard applicants, though. Griffith tends to be a bit more secretive, it seems.
Hey Crow,

I just wanted to ask, so from what i gathered in the thread, by doing a Honours year, does that automatically give us a 7.0 GPA when applying for Griffith? If so, that means we would be applying for undergrad at Griffith even after finishing a degree? Are we able to do that?

THanks
 

Crow

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Hey Crow,

I just wanted to ask, so from what i gathered in the thread, by doing a Honours year, does that automatically give us a 7.0 GPA when applying for Griffith? If so, that means we would be applying for undergrad at Griffith even after finishing a degree? Are we able to do that?

THanks
You need to achieve first class honours to be awarded a GPA 7, not just an honours degree. After sal123 missed out on an offer today it also seems that you need to achieve a first class honours equivalent to over 85+ rather than 80+, otherwise you won’t be awarded a 7.0.

Yes, you’ll be applying to the undergraduate degree and you’re allowed to do this. Technically you can complete as many undergraduate degrees as you would like to, it’s just that some undergraduate medicine and dentistry courses restrict applications to school-leavers; Griffith is not one of the unis that does this for dentistry.
 

Dullah

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You need to achieve first class honours to be awarded a GPA 7, not just an honours degree. After sal123 missed out on an offer today it also seems that you need to achieve a first class honours equivalent to over 85+ rather than 80+, otherwise you won’t be awarded a 7.0.

Yes, you’ll be applying to the undergraduate degree and you’re allowed to do this. Technically you can complete as many undergraduate degrees as you would like to, it’s just that some undergraduate medicine and dentistry courses restrict applications to school-leavers; Griffith is not one of the unis that does this for dentistry.
Oh ok thanks mate. I missed out on JCU dentistry offer. Is there a way to find out what part of my application let me down? Content deleted by mod.
 

LMG!

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I see! So if I want a GPA of 7 for Griffith, does that mean I would need 8 subjects all over 80? I was under the assumption it was 8 subjects over 85.
Crow given what you’ve seen today re. first class honours between 80 and 85 not being considered 7.00, do you Griffith DO look at subject scores?
 

Crow

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Crow given what you’ve seen today re. first class honours between 80 and 85 not being considered 7.00, do you Griffith DO look at subject scores?
I can only assume they do look at the subject scores within the honours degree rather than just the overall class awarded, because sal should’ve been made an offer if not. I’d love to hear from a few more people in a similar situation though to confirm that, but unfortunately I don’t think we’re going to!
 

Crow

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Oh ok thanks mate. I missed out on JCU dentistry offer. Is there a way to find out what part of my application let me down?
Unfortunately JCU doesn’t give feedback on applications as far as I’m aware. The reality is non-standard entry is so competitive at JCU that you really need a very high quality written application (in combination with a competitive GPA) to be considered (particularly if you’re a non-rural student).
 
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