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Griffith's Graduate Diploma of Dentistry - CSP or Full-Fees?

ss99

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Hey guys! just a few a questions:


So how do you get a CSP? I am domestic interstate student which means I would already be allocated or do they select the top students in the cohort to receive CSP?


Also what would be the total tuition costs/fees for a CSP if they were to also complete Diploma in Dental Science, $100K?!


Finally would a 6.625 GPA even be borderline entrance for Griffith? :(
 

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l2009

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I don't think you can get a CSP in the Grad Dip of Dentistry - it's just full-fee position (although you can take out a interest-free government loan if you're a domestic student). So yeh ... fun-times uni debt.
 

Limobean

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I don't think you can get a CSP in the Grad Dip of Dentistry - it's just full-fee position (although you can take out a interest-free government loan if you're a domestic student). So yeh ... fun-times uni debt.
Grad Dip of Dentistry at GU is still Full Fee sigh...and it's increasing by about $2000 each year. For 2015, it is around
$55 000 a year T_T

The good news is though that the government has abolished the FEE-HELP Limit! So it is no longer capped at around
$110 000 and now we can borrow as much as we want now. :) Because it is a postgrad qualification, there isn't interest either!

But still....it is a lot of debt and would take a long time to pay off.
 

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HotIce

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Hi,

Does a GPA of 7 guarantee non-standard entry into this course?

Regards,

DSM
I have spoken to the dental admission officer today (I have a gpa of 7) and she told me that everyone with 6.5+ who also satisfies the requirements are put in an applicants pool (standards and non standards together. They don't discriminate) and they are ranked in a descending order and the uni chooses the best 100 or whatever number they have available.

She said that I am at the top of this pool (without giving me any specific info) and said she can't tell me that I will get in but I am very competitive.

We'll have to wait until the 15th of jan to be certain though
 

Limobean

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I have spoken to the dental admission officer today (I have a gpa of 7) and she told me that everyone with 6.5+ who also satisfies the requirements are put in an applicants pool (standards and non standards together. They don't discriminate) and they are ranked in a descending order and the uni chooses the best 100 or whatever number they have available.

She said that I am at the top of this pool (without giving me any specific info) and said she can't tell me that I will get in but I am very competitive.

We'll have to wait until the 15th of jan to be certain though
Hey @HotIce ! I called them too and they said I was competitive although it would ultimately come down to the quality of applicants for that year. She told me the same thing as what you said and also said that we can get a rank of above 99 (some Griffith staff were unaware of that, only the application department truly knew the procedures and so when they transferred me to the application department, I found this out).

So our GPA 6.5 gets converted into a rank of 99, then any decimal points gets converted to a decimal point as well so 99.XX. And that is ranked against the school leavers ATAR scores too I think. 90 seats for domestic students including both school leavers and non-standards.

She also mentioned that there were no second round offers for 2013 and 2014 and the cutoff scores were GPA 6.6 and 6.55 respectively. So I hope that doesn't increase this year. I also think they won't be participating in second round offers either. What is your opinion on this?
 

HotIce

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Hey @HotIce ! I called them too and they said I was competitive although it would ultimately come down to the quality of applicants for that year. She told me the same thing as what you said and also said that we can get a rank of above 99 (some Griffith staff were unaware of that, only the application department truly knew the procedures and so when they transferred me to the application department, I found this out).

So our GPA 6.5 gets converted into a rank of 99, then any decimal points gets converted to a decimal point as well so 99.XX. And that is ranked against the school leavers ATAR scores too I think. 90 seats for domestic students including both school leavers and non-standards.

She also mentioned that there were no second round offers for 2013 and 2014 and the cutoff scores were GPA 6.6 and 6.55 respectively. So I hope that doesn't increase this year. I also think they won't be participating in second round offers either. What is your opinion on this?
Hey [MENTION=18736]Limobean[/MENTION] :) Thanks for reporting back. I think this is good news for both of us. As I told you before, last year was 6.55 so hopefully it stays the same and doesn't go up. I wasn't told of the 99.XX rank but I kind of knew as there are no other way to rank non standards against school leavers. I guess then a gpa of 7 is given a 99.95 rank?

Re second round offers, It's been GU trend for the past 2 years. I don't think they will this year. If the cut off stays as low as last year, then they definitely won't as there are no way they would go lower than 6.5

The wait is getting to me. I'm trying to distract myself but I couldn't help not call them LOL
 

dsmalik

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Hi,
I do not think that a GPA of 7 is equivalent to a 99.95 ATAR. Given that a high proportion of students have obtained this results. Probably at a maximum a GPA of 7 might be equivalent of 99.00 ATAR. Does Griffith University use WAM to discriminate between applicants who are highly competitive?

Kind Regards,

DSM
 

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HotIce

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Hi,
I do not think that a GPA of 7 is equivalent to a 99.95 ATAR. Given that a high proportion of students have obtained this results. Probably at a maximum a GPA of 7 might be equivalent of 99.00 ATAR. Does Griffith University use WAM to discriminate between applicants who are highly competitive?

Kind Regards,

DSM
I have just confirmed with Griffith again. GPA of 6.5 is given a rank of 99.00
GPA of 7.0 is given a rank of 99.95 (a maximum rank since 7 is the maximum GPA)

And no. Griffith does not use WAM to discriminate between applicants. Only GPA is used.

Not many people get a gpa of 7. Just like how not many score an ATAR of 99.95
 

dsmalik

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Hi,

Thank you for the prompt reply.

Given that a GPA of 7 is equivalent to an ATAR of 99.95, means that there is a very high chance of gaining to entrance into the course I presume?

Regards,

DSM
 

HotIce

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Hi,

Thank you for the prompt reply.

Given that a GPA of 7 is equivalent to an ATAR of 99.95, means that there is a very high chance of gaining to entrance into the course I presume?

Regards,

DSM
Hi [MENTION=19553]dsmalik[/MENTION], I should probably clarify that a GPA of 7 = RANK of 99.95 not ATAR ( as qtac uses ranks instead of ATAR so it gets a bit confusing), but yes, you will have a very high chance of gaining entry.

I saw somewhere that you were applying to med. Is dent your "back up" plan?
 

Limobean

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Hi,

Given that a GPA of 7 is equivalent to an ATAR of 99.95, means that there is a very high chance of gaining to entrance into the course I presume?
I think we can safely assume that since GPA 7 is the maximum GPA you can achieve and that the cutoff for previous years was around the 6.5-6.6 mark, that there is higher chance of getting in unless something dramatic happens like every applicant has GPA 7 making the cutoff GPA 7. That would be scary. Although I have heard that it has happened before.
 

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HotIce

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I think we can safely assume that since GPA 7 is the maximum GPA you can achieve and that the cutoff for previous years was around the 6.5-6.6 mark, that there is higher chance of getting in unless something dramatic happens like every applicant has GPA 7 making the cutoff GPA 7. That would be scary. Although I have heard that it has happened before.
WOW..cut off of gpa of 7? when did that happen?
That is scary indeed.
Can't imagine a whole cohort with perfect GPAs/ATARs LOL
 

Limobean

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WOW..cut off of gpa of 7? when did that happen?
That is scary indeed.
Can't imagine a whole cohort with perfect GPAs/ATARs LOL
I KNOW. I think it was the first year the course was offered so everyone jumped in. I could be wrong but the cutoff was very high.
But yeah omg, everyone would have perfect scores @_@
 
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dsmalik

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Hi @dsmalik , I should probably clarify that a GPA of 7 = RANK of 99.95 not ATAR ( as qtac uses ranks instead of ATAR so it gets a bit confusing), but yes, you will have a very high chance of gaining entry.

I saw somewhere that you were applying to med. Is dent your "back up" plan?
Hi,

I have entertained the idea of dentistry but decided to gauge my applications for various health disciplines due to not applying to interstate universities last year.

In addition, what is the difference between RANK and ATAR? Given that I called QTAC and they stated the highest RANK is 99?

Regards,

DSM
 
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Time

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Hey guys, as far as I know Griffith selected over 140 students for the 2014 intake and so the cut-off was much lower than previous years. However, for the 2015 intake was told the School is going to accept far less and so the cut-off should be higher. When I entered the cut-off GPA was 6.75 and as of now we have around ~95 domestic students and about 10 international students remaining. Best of luck!
 

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HotIce

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Hey guys, as far as I know Griffith selected over 140 students for the 2014 intake and so the cut-off was much lower than previous years. However, for the 2015 intake was told the School is going to accept far less and so the cut-off should be higher. When I entered the cut-off GPA was 6.75 and as of now we have around ~95 domestic students and about 10 international students remaining. Best of luck!
Opps..this is not good news I guess :/

well, thanks a lot for taking the time and giving us the info.
much appreciated
 

Limobean

Regular Member
Woah well done HotIce and LimoBean on your impressive GPAs (y) I feel so insecure coming on to MSO sometimes lol. I guess I'm out of the running if the cut off is 6.55 as I only have 6.5..
Umm I dont have a GPA as high as HotIce, because I didn't realise I was still eligible...so I didn't try as hard...T_T

Hmmm 6.5 may be a bit too low, but you can never know.
 

Limobean

Regular Member
Hey guys, as far as I know Griffith selected over 140 students for the 2014 intake and so the cut-off was much lower than previous years. However, for the 2015 intake was told the School is going to accept far less and so the cut-off should be higher. When I entered the cut-off GPA was 6.75 and as of now we have around ~95 domestic students and about 10 international students remaining. Best of luck!
Wait what? 140? Why would they do that? Are there even enough seats and facilities for all of them? I called Griffith and they said they had 90 seats available for 2015 intake.
 

Time

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Wait what? 140? Why would they do that? Are there even enough seats and facilities for all of them? I called Griffith and they said they had 90 seats available for 2015 intake.
We actually have no idea why the School accepted 140 students, i don't think the school can accommodate that many students in the sim labs and clinics.. 90 students sound much better! Just a note if you guys are International students the cut-offs are lower than domestic students.
 

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