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JCU Dentistry General Discussion

Apply for rural work experience?

  • Yes, will increase your chances.

    Votes: 4 66.7%
  • No need

    Votes: 2 33.3%

  • Total voters
    6

SanaC

New Member
Hello, I'm a non-standard applying for dentistry at JCU for 2019 entry. I'm genuinely interested in working in a rural community and fell in love with Cairns when I went there for a short holiday.
I have a few questions for those who know how I can increase my chances of being selected?

Questions:
-Is a first semester GPA of 6.5 and an ATAR of 97.5 enough to pass me through the academic requirements?
-I'm currently doing work experience at a dental clinic in Sydney and training to work as a dental assistant there. Should I ask a dentist to be a reference?
-I'm also thinking of looking for 2-3 day work experience at a dental clinic in regional/rural Sydney, is this a good idea?
-Any other things that I definitely should include, especially to express my interest in dentistry and/or rural healthcare?
 

SanaC

New Member
Also, will my second semester marks be included? Or is it too late? My uni will probably release results early December.
 

Crow

Moderator
Most Active 2018
Hi SanaC, welcome to MSO. Firstly, it is important to note that non-standard entry is much more competitive than school-leaver entry, given the minimal amount of places available to non-standards. It is also important to note that rurality is an important component of the selection criteria (naturally, given the mission of JCU's health programs), meaning that the majority of place offers will go to those with a rural background - so you really need to have a great written application to give yourself a good chance of entry if you are a non-rural applicant i.e. you need to show a genuine interest in rural and Indigenous dentistry and articulate this well in your written application.

To answer your specific questions:
- Yes, a GPA of 6.5 would be considered competitive (obviously a 7.0 would give you a greater chance of entry), given that the written application is much more of an important factor than academic results - this is because the written application is scored in a manner that creates a much greater variance in entry scores than academic rank does - as evidenced by students with perfect GPAs and ATARs missing out on spots in the past while others with much lower GPAs have been offered places.
- Your letters of support are there to attest to your personal character and demonstrate that you are an appropriate fit for JCU's dentistry school. If the dentist can attest to your suitability for a career in dentistry, and perhaps your interest in rural/remote/Indigenous dentistry, then sure, they may be a good fit. If they can't do these things, perhaps you're better off asking someone else. JCU isn't looking for letters from well established dentists specifically - they're looking for people to say good things about you as a person, and your motivations for the aforementioned.
- If you can get the work experience then why not? You have absolutely nothing to lose from experiencing the field that you are pursuing a career path in, and will likely gain more insight into said field - a bonus might be you being able to use this insight in your written application, if you gain something useful out of it.
- The last one is up to you. Think about the specific reasons why rural healthcare appeals to you (this is perhaps even more important than you being interested in dentistry in itself), think about why JCU's program specifically appeals to you and will help you pursue a career in rural healthcare, etc. Nobody can outline your specific motivations for you, but it is important that you explain how JCU's mission aligns with your career goals and why the dentistry program will help you achieve these.

Yes, your second semester results will be considered when calculating your academic rank.

As an aside: I would caution from referring to "rural Sydney" in your application.

Feel free to ask more questions if you need to.
 
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SanaC

New Member
Thank you so much, your answer was exactly what I needed! :)
And yes, just realised that mistake... thank you for the heads up!
 

MSP

Banned
Hello, I'm a non-standard applying for dentistry at JCU for 2019 entry. I'm genuinely interested in working in a rural community and fell in love with Cairns when I went there for a short holiday.
I have a few questions for those who know how I can increase my chances of being selected?

Questions:
-Is a first semester GPA of 6.5 and an ATAR of 97.5 enough to pass me through the academic requirements?
-I'm currently doing work experience at a dental clinic in Sydney and training to work as a dental assistant there. Should I ask a dentist to be a reference?
-I'm also thinking of looking for 2-3 day work experience at a dental clinic in regional/rural Sydney, is this a good idea?
-Any other things that I definitely should include, especially to express my interest in dentistry and/or rural healthcare?

1)GPA - Great!!
2) Work experience is also great - but lots of people will have it. Have you done any science/dental related research for an academic? Are you continually volunteering in the community? Do you have other life achievements/awards etc?
3) Rural dentistry and healthcare are highly complex. You need to be very concise with how you structure your response and don't just regurgitate facts and statistics! What do you understand about rural dentistry/healthcare?
 

SanaC

New Member
1)GPA - Great!!
2) Work experience is also great - but lots of people will have it. Have you done any science/dental related research for an academic? Are you continually volunteering in the community? Do you have other life achievements/awards etc?
3) Rural dentistry and healthcare are highly complex. You need to be very concise with how you structure your response and don't just regurgitate facts and statistics! What do you understand about rural dentistry/healthcare?
Thank you for your suggestions! They are immensely helpful.
Regarding (2) I’ve been selected to undertake research experience at my uni under an academic, but have yet to choose a faculty. Probably in chemistry or medical sciences, can you possibly suggest how can I make the best use of this?
 

jiaxing

Regular Member
Hi everyone!

I’m a non-rural and non-standard applicant from Sydney. I’m completing my Masters at the end of this year and currently I’m in the process of applying for Dentistry at JCU.

Can anybody help me out and guide me as to what the lowest GPAs have been like in previous years for non-rural students such as myself?

Also, I’ve done over 4 years experience in dental clinics in sydney and rural Overseas, as well as done a lot of research and taugh Indigenous students in high school. Would this help too?t

Thank you!
 

mthk

New Member
Hi! I'm just curious about one thing; on the JCU website, they say an ATAR of 96 is required in order to get a placement into the course, and they don't look at UMAT or have interviews
So my question is, will you get a placement into the university if you get an ATAR of 96+ and a good application form?
Thanks!
 

Crow

Moderator
Most Active 2018
Hi! I'm just curious about one thing; on the JCU website, they say an ATAR of 96 is required in order to get a placement into the course, and they don't look at UMAT or have interviews
So my question is, will you get a placement into the university if you get an ATAR of 96+ and a good application form?
Thanks!
Where have you read this? I just checked the dentistry course on the JCU website and have not seen an ATAR requirement quoted anywhere. MSO has definitely had reports of ATARs below 96 receiving place offers into JCU dentistry in the past.

Nobody can guarantee you will get a place offer with x ATAR and a “good” application - what is a good application? Is this by your own objective assessment or someone else’s opinion? People have missed out on place offers with ATARs of 99+ in the past because of the importance of the written application (and even more importantly, rurality score).

Best of luck.
 

LMG!

Moderator
Most Helpful Member and Staff Member of the Year 2017-2018
Hi! I'm just curious about one thing; on the JCU website, they say an ATAR of 96 is required in order to get a placement into the course, and they don't look at UMAT or have interviews
So my question is, will you get a placement into the university if you get an ATAR of 96+ and a good application form?
Thanks!
A number of universities will advertise a “minimum” ATAR (or UMAT or GPA, etc), but that’s often just the point at which an applicant becomes eligible for cosideration, it is not a guarantee of an offer if you score above. And, in fact, successful scores tend to be much higher than the published minimums due to the competitiveness of the degree/s.

For information more specific to JCU, see @Crow’s comment above.
 

Rub0ls

New Member
Hello. I got an OP 2 and applied for both JCU Medicine and Dentistry as my passion lies in boosting people's health. I didn't get an interview offer for JCU Medicine, does this mean my chances for JCU Dentistry is low since it must've been my application that affected me.
 

QlQ

New Member
Has anyone received an offer from JCU for dentistry ?
I got an email yesterday around 11:00am EST for JCU Dentistry.

Do they not do interviews for Dentistry? I was surprised because all my friends (who had Medicine as first preference) got an interview.
 

Crow

Moderator
Most Active 2018
I got an email yesterday around 11:00am EST for JCU Dentistry.

Do they not do interviews for Dentistry? I was surprised because all my friends (who had Medicine as first preference) got an interview.
I may have misinterpreted, but surely if you received an offer for dentistry you would know that interviews aren’t part of the selection process? JCU only interviews for medicine - dentistry selection is decided from academic rank and written application.
 

Ann Alex

New Member
Hey Guys, I hope you are all doing well.

So guys i want to apply for dentistry for 2020 as a non school leaver (i finshed my hsc in 2018).

Honestly, i dont even care what uni i go to as long as i get accepted. But my main one was JCU. I am non rural and would be an intersate student. so for the written application part of the selection criteria JCU has, i was wodnering if i could get some pointers to help me out.

I am aiming for a GPA of over 6 and i am quite confident as long as God's with me and i am also planning on sitting the UCAT this year. howver i dont know the criteria for UCAT. is it going to be harder? some helpful tips would be much appreciated.
 

DNA

JCU MBBS
Hey Guys, I hope you are all doing well.

So guys i want to apply for dentistry for 2020 as a non school leaver (i finshed my hsc in 2018).

Honestly, i dont even care what uni i go to as long as i get accepted. But my main one was JCU. I am non rural and would be an intersate student. so for the written application part of the selection criteria JCU has, i was wodnering if i could get some pointers to help me out.

I am aiming for a GPA of over 6 and i am quite confident as long as God's with me and i am also planning on sitting the UCAT this year. howver i dont know the criteria for UCAT. is it going to be harder? some helpful tips would be much appreciated.
You should aim to complete some dental work experience which you can talk about in your written application. Also, JCU focuses a lot on indigenous and rural health so it would be a good idea to demonstrate that these aspects interest you - perhaps you could try and get some work experience or do volunteering in a rural/indigenous community.

Not much is known about UCAT since it’s the first year it is being implemented. You should checkout the Pre-UCAT 2019 discussion if you haven’t already.
 
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Ann Alex

New Member
You should aim to complete some dental work experience which you can talk about in your written application. Also, JCU focuses a lot on indigenous and rural health so it would be a good idea to demonstrate that these aspects interest you - perhaps you could try and get some work experience or do volunteering in a rural/indigenous community.

Not much is not about UCAT since it’s the first year it is being implemented. You should checkout the Pre-UCAT 2019 discussion if you haven’t already.
THANK U SO MUCH!
I was wondering how much work experience you need. say i was working as a dental assistant at this clinic(not rural sadly, since i live literally in the city) woudl that be enough in terms of work experince or should i do more shadowing instead of actual payed work?
 

DNA

JCU MBBS
THANK U SO MUCH!
I was wondering how much work experience you need. say i was working as a dental assistant at this clinic(not rural sadly, since i live literally in the city) woudl that be enough in terms of work experince or should i do more shadowing instead of actual payed work?
The most important part of the work experience part of the written application is explaining what you’ve gained from it and how it indicates your motivation to study dentistry. So if you’ve learned a lot about dentistry when working as a dental assistant compared to not much by shadowing then the former is better. It really all comes down to how you express it in the written application.

In short, quality over quantity is better. There’s no minimum requirement for how many hours of work experience - it’s good to have some good quality ones that don’t have to be years long.
 
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