Yes, I believe so.
Wait what, if CV and uni marks are completely irrelevant to which hospital you'll be allocated to in NSW, how do they choose applicants for internship and residency other than your priority category??
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Yes, I believe so.
Wait what, if CV and uni marks are completely irrelevant to which hospital you'll be allocated to in NSW, how do they choose applicants for internship and residency other than your priority category??
How does this work? Unless you mean in individual hospital networks?
As a cat 2 applicant currently anxiously awaiting an offer (I also applied through DRA), I've noticed that HETI has already made many offers to cat 3 and 4 applicants via DRA, which makes me concerned that I won't get one (this is based off their Twitter account).
I read in earlier posts that everyone in cat 2 should get an offer (?), but in the Annual Report from last year, 19 people in cat 2 did not receive an offer, while in the year before 62 people in cat 2 did not get an offer. Am I reading the tables wrong?
Could anyone please clarify? I know there are no guarantees for cat 2 but I was really hoping to move back to NSW .
Regional pathway acceptances for 2020 for NSW medical graduates
Domestic students (Category 1) 195 International students (Category 4)
42
Total 237
Thanks dotwingz! I'm a little confused why there were only acceptances for cat 1 and 4 via the DRA. Is this because those cat 4s may have put a less competitive network as their first preference than the cat2/3s applying via the DRA?Very poor chances as a cat 2.
From the HETI report last year
This is because any positions a Cat 1 doesn’t fill in DRA, goes to the optimised allocation, before being given a chance by a Cat 2.
Out of the each of them, Wollongong is the least subscribed (through the DRA process) at 65% filled, then Gosford at 71% then JHH at 96%. So that order is probably your best bet, cause DRA fills first come first serve.
If positions still remain at a DRA network, following the above process i.e. after all Category 1 applicants have been offered a position, HETI makes offers to the next category of applicants as per the NSW Health priority list, who have put a DRA network as their first preference. HETI uses PTAP to randomly select who will receive a position offer.
I do know quite a few cat 4s who got Newcastle. So can assure its definitely not off limits, atleast for the year 2020 it wasn’t.
Have a read of this,
So after the first round - when every Cat 1 applicant has got an offer through every pathway, that’s when they start allocating to the other categories. A very popular hospital like JHH won’t have any spots open after that optimised allocation, and you would be wasting your DRA by selecting it there.
The only networks open for the non cat 1 DRA applicants are undersubscribed ones, not every DRA hospital is undersubscribed.
Pick wollongong or gosford, I don’t know the relative popularity of either of them, but JHH is most certainly off limits.
EDIT: I would think that the reason why there’s no Cat 2/3s getting DRA spots is that there really is only a minor advantage in applying through the DRA for these positions, you are only getting into undersubscribed hospitals, which you were likely restricted to anyways...
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I know a few International student ( Cat 4) who got into Wollongong this year.
Not sure how useful this information is, every network has Category 4's in it (even RPAH and RNSH.)
I actually know about 4 cat 3s that got offered John Hunter through DRA (all declined their offers) in round 2 in 2020 and this was just at my uni. If you put any of these 3 networks as your first preference, I would think you would be quite likely to get an offer in any round as a cat 2, but as mentioned above, it really depends on popularity each year.Hi guys, I'm also a cat 2 applying for NSW internship next year. I'm interested in applying through the DRA pathway and I'm trying to understand what my realistic chances are. I'm interested in the John hunter, Wollongong and Gosford networks, but unsure in what order to place them. Does anyone have any advice on this? Thanks for your help!
I’m a cat 4 who got Network 15, in round one itself.
In my opinion as a cat 2, you would get any of the hospitals you rank as your first choice under DRA.
also for DRA, only your first choice gets looked into, not the rest.
What were some of the offers of cat 2s and 3s that you knew of?I actually know about 4 cat 3s that got offered John Hunter through DRA (all declined their offers) in round 2 in 2020 and this was just at my uni. If you put any of these 3 networks as your first preference, I would think you would be quite likely to get an offer in any round as a cat 2, but as mentioned above, it really depends on popularity each year.
This seems to only be true for certain networks. I had Liverpool Hospital as my first preference and did not end up getting an offer through DRA or optimised pathway. However I know many cat 2s and 3s that got other offers through DRA in round 1.
This is incorrect.Very poor chances as a cat 2.
From the HETI report last year
This is because any positions a Cat 1 doesn’t fill in DRA, goes to the optimised allocation, before being given a chance by a Cat 2.
Out of the each of them, Wollongong is the least subscribed (through the DRA process) at 65% filled, then Gosford at 71% then JHH at 96%. So that order is probably your best bet, cause DRA fills first come first serve.
May I ask what hospital you got , is Blacktwon or BathurstI’m a cat 4 who got Network 15, in round one itself.
In my opinion as a cat 2, you would get any of the hospitals you rank as your first choice under DRA.
also for DRA, only your first choice gets looked into, not the rest.
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Thank you for your reply.Would suggest your friend read in the HETI guide as to what "T3" T5" "R" and "OT" keys mean when denoting the different hospitals in a network. Essentially "the system" doesn't allocate you to a single hospital; it allocates you to a network. The network then allocates contracted employees to work within that system (ie sometimes you will be moved around as per the operational needs of the roster). The keys listed above are informative as they indicate whether a hospital is accredited to a whole year, partial year or rotational-based work for interns.
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