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whatIsMed

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Hi everyone
I'm thinking of signing up for the medentry interview training course, but not sure if it's worth the 490 bucks. Has anyone had experience with it? If so did it help much?
 

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k4ps

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Personally,
Didn't help me very much, a lot of the things they discussed were found on MSO. It was a bit like the 2 day course, a lot of talking from the lecturer (not absolutely useless of course or they wouldn't have anyone going at all). But I think you could spend 7 hours (or however long it is I don't really remember) better. Wasn't worth 490 dollars. One benefit was that you got a feel of how prepared everyone else was but again not worth 490 bucks. I can tell you now there's a mix in terms of interview preparedness (obviously) - I'd guess around 60% at least have done minimal preparation (don't be complacent, you might be one of them and some of them will have started preparing since they went to the training course), 30-35% were ok and 5-10% were good (then again these numbers were just based off 2 interview courses I attended; so a sample size of around 40 I bought the diamond package so I had one course I wouldn't want to be wasting my money on, and my dad told me to buy a second in case their course for a different uni was good). So a summary - not horrible but personally didn't find it the best use of around 9 hours (inc transport) or 490 dollars. Another downside I suppose is that you have to share some personal stuff with 15-20 strangers which you may or may not be comfortable doing. Also if you're really worried about maximising your competitiveness and think you're someone who has intelligent things to say already, people might use your answers in their interview making it harder for you to stand out (maybe an extreme thing to consider, might even be unlikely you get the same interviewer).
In the end its your choice, people say they developed their confidence which wasn't really the case for me, each person only got to answer 2 questions in front of the group (found it much more useful being interviewed by my parents). The feedback wasn't really personalised either (or very helpful they were wayyyy to nice to everybody). This one kid said he doesn't know why he wants to do medicine and the guy said yeah you just need to work on projecting your voice (which was the feedback given to most people).
 
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Mana

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In general, there is no evidence that targeted preparation courses increase performance in interviews over doing standard non-paid interview preparation.

If you read through MSO (and if you run out of our interview content somehow, go to pagingdr), you'll cover more than any 2 day interview course could possibly do so, except that you did so at the low, low price of "free".
 

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whatIsMed

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In general, there is no evidence that targeted preparation courses increase performance in interviews over doing standard non-paid interview preparation.

If you read through MSO (and if you run out of our interview content somehow, go to pagingdr), you'll cover more than any 2 day interview course could possibly do so, except that you did so at the low, low price of "free".
thank you so much for the advice!!
 

Dacato10

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Hi there. Can anyone please tell me if ICanMed's interview program is any good? Anyone have past experience with this?
 

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This thread is for sharing genuine experiences only, it is NOT for advertising (any posts deemed to be promotional in nature will be promptly moderated). It is also not for general debates about whether paid prep is ‘worth it’. Again, posts straying into this territory will be moderated.
 
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helmut_schmidt

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Are there any Sydney interview preparation providers (companies or individuals) who charge reasonable prices and who people have found to be genuinely useful? My friends and I have looked at a couple of providers and it seems hard to believe that anything could possibly justify the thousands of dollars they charge for access to their materials.
 

cap78

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Hi, does anyone recommend either the iCanMed or the Medentry interview workshop for Interview preparation?
 
Are there any Sydney interview preparation providers (companies or individuals) who charge reasonable prices and who people have found to be genuinely useful? My friends and I have looked at a couple of providers and it seems hard to believe that anything could possibly justify the thousands of dollars they charge for access to their materials.
Tbh with your combination of elite UCAT & predicted ATAR, I would stick to free resources & do a good amount of practice. You would have to do something terribly wrong in the interview to get rejected haha. Congrats, you're in a great position! :)
 

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TKAO

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Has anybody tried private tutors for interviews?? e.g. this dude? Sydney Incredible Success, Med Graduate, 99 UMAT, 300+ Students.

Just wanna know how common it is for people to find external help for interviews?
I'd you are thinking about paying this much you could easily pay for all the possible courses out there and go through them yourself. Of course he will try to sell himself as the only man to get you in, but chances are that if you are already on MSO, you've demonstrated that you can be resourceful when it comes to finding information.
 
$250 for 1hr? $600 for application proofread? $1200 for some questions? This man makes more money than a neurosurgeon.
Actually neurosurgeons earn much more and even as certain specialists you should be earning more.
Interesting it says he is a graduate of UNSW but not a Doctor?
Usually 1 to 1 interviewers with more extensive knowledge are better than group courses that offer little individualised advice.
Price is steep for a student I would agree but if it works would you think it is wortth it? How much would you charge someone for tutoring if you had 10 years of experience?
- It's like specialists in medicine. Would you after 15 years of experience accept the medicare rebate for a consultation for just $106 vs charging $295.
- Would you as a specialist be a charity worker or would you set a price you deem as your worth?
- Why do you want a Mercedes when you can get a Toyota?

I have begun to understand the price of quality after being on the opposite of the coin. Not all tutors are created the same nor do they deliver the same results. Don't mock people for their prices if they can deliver the quality. Pick and choose what you would invest in for quality.
 
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helmut_schmidt

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Actually neurosurgeons earn much more and even as certain specialists you should be earning more.
Interesting it says he is a graduate of UNSW but not a Doctor?
Usually 1 to 1 interviewers with more extensive knowledge are better than group courses that offer little individualised advice.
Price is steep for a student I would agree but if it works would you think it is wortth it? How much would you charge someone for tutoring if you had 10 years of experience?
- It's like specialists in medicine. Would you after 15 years of experience accept the medicare rebate for a consultation for just $106 vs charging $295.
- Would you as a specialist be a charity worker or would you set a price you deem as your worth?
- Why do you want a Mercedes when you can get a Toyota?

I have begun to understand the price of quality after being on the opposite of the coin. Not all tutors are created the same nor do they deliver the same results. Don't mock people for their prices if they can deliver the quality. Pick and choose what you would invest in for quality.
I disagree with your specialist analogy. The specialist in your analogy is charging high prices because the financial and temporal investment in becoming a specialist is huge. However, the prices charged by the “medical interview mentor” for his services, for the most part, fail these criteria. Certainly he may have experience in one-to-one interview coaching, which he might feel justifies the high prices he charges for that particular service, just like the specialist in the analogy. This isn’t the case for his other services:

1. His “UCAT one-to-one premium session” ($500). The UCAT was introduced last year, he has never even sat the test, and yet his advice is apparently worth $250/hour.
2. His application proofreading service ($600 per application). Several members here on MSO offer to proofread applications for free. I find it very hard to believe that this one guy has some incredible insight which makes it worth the $600.
3. His “Mastering the Medicine Interview Manual” ($1200), and his interview question banks ($600 per university). Certainly these would have taken him quite some effort to develop, and require ongoing effort to maintain. But gathering and updating interview questions and techniques is not even close to the sort of huge temporal and financial investment which makes it justifiable for specialist doctors to charge high fees. (Additionally, the questions are not even his own original work. The universities are the ones who come up with the questions. Furthermore, since most unis (to the best of my knowledge) make their applicants sign NDAs, both he and the students from whom he harvests these questions are ethically compromised.)

Additionally, he acknowledges that he never finished the UNSW BMed/MD (graduating only with a BMed) yet in his “Experience” section he claims to “interview patients every day”.

All in all, I don’t think his prices are justifiable.

(ETA: I don’t believe that medical specialists’ high prices are necessarily justifiable in all cases either.)
 
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I never said his prices were justified I was just expressing another view to look at prices.

I don't think specialists prices are always justified as well. I would not send my patients to certain specialists, GPs, physios because I know for a fact they aren't worth it. So I disagree with your perspective that specialists all deserve a certain cost just because they had to endure a certain length of training. I would gladly spend more money on artisan products if they were produced by someone who had great skill in what they do through years of experience but that doesn't mean they need to be formally trained. Take for example carpenters, plumbers, clothing designers etc.

I would rather judge someone by their performance, pride in their work and commitment to it.
 

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TKAO

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I disagree with your specialist analogy. The specialist in your analogy is charging high prices because the financial and temporal investment in becoming a specialist is huge. However, the prices charged by the “medical interview mentor” for his services, for the most part, fail these criteria. Certainly he may have experience in one-to-one interview coaching, which he might feel justifies the high prices he charges for that particular service, just like the specialist in the analogy. This isn’t the case for his other services:

1. His “UCAT one-to-one premium session” ($500). The UCAT was introduced last year, he has never even sat the test, and yet his advice is apparently worth $250/hour.
2. His application proofreading service ($600 per application). Several members here on MSO offer to proofread applications for free. I find it very hard to believe that this one guy has some incredible insight which makes it worth the $600.
3. His “Mastering the Medicine Interview Manual” ($1200), and his interview question banks ($600 per university). Certainly these would have taken him quite some effort to develop, and require ongoing effort to maintain. But gathering and updating interview questions and techniques is not even close to the sort of huge temporal and financial investment which makes it justifiable for specialist doctors to charge high fees. (Additionally, the questions are not even his own original work. The universities are the ones who come up with the questions. Furthermore, since most unis (to the best of my knowledge) make their applicants sign NDAs, both he and the students from whom he harvests these questions are ethically compromised.)

Additionally, he acknowledges that he never finished the UNSW BMed/MD (graduating only with a BMed) yet in his “Experience” section he claims to “interview patients every day”.

All in all, I don’t think his prices are justifiable in the way that a medical specialist’s are.
I think you raise some good points regarding his degree. I had automatically assumed he finished it but I appear to be wrong.
 
any reports about medessentials interview prep???? It's getting close and still deciding, second year student as well, failed one interview
 

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