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Post-UCAT Discussion 2019

TKAO

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I’m in the same situation, didn’t prepare because I thought it is an aptitude test, boy am I wrong! Would like to get some well-informed advice from experienced people on this forum, what you think as a rural entry, not considering JC. (I know this question may have been asked numerous of times but in case some new information has surfaced recently.) Thanks.
Since you are rural your hopes are not entirely cut out. Competition for a rural place is quite low and your ucat might just make you eligible(rural places are usually a separate quota to the rest of admissions). Also note that plenty of unis give bonuses on your rurality so pay attention to that.
 

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Country Folks

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Since you are rural your hopes are not entirely cut out. Competition for a rural place is quite low and your ucat might just make you eligible(rural places are usually a separate quota to the rest of admissions). Also note that plenty of unis give bonuses on your rurality so pay attention to that.
Thank you 'TKAO' really appreciate that you took the time to write your opinion on this. Sincerely 'Country Folks'.
 

chinaski

Regular Member
Do BMedSci graduates have low employment opportunities if they are declined lateral entry to medicine? Should I consider an alternative career option to increase my chances of getting into Med post grad at a different institution?
Medical science isn't a vocational degree. That's not necessarily a bad thing - but like any degree, you need to undertake it with a purpose in mind. It's very bad economy to enrol in any degree with the sole and primary purpose to get into medicine. Ultimately you - and everyone else thinking about medicine - should have a Plan B in place, in the setting that you do not get into medicine (for whatever reason). A BMedSci can open doors to career pathways (just as any other degree can), but you need to know what they are and know if those are doors you'd be interested in opening, in the context of missing out on medicine.
 

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ucatboy

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Hey everyone I’ve been lurking on this forum for a while and decided to make an account and post!
I got a pretty shocking UCAT score of 2400 (yikes). I scored okay in both VR and DM but scored really poorly in both QR and AR.
I saw that some universities might look at individual sections and was wondering if it’s worth even applying with an overall score so abysmally low? I’m still pretty confident that even my two good sections are not good enough to even been considered (690 and 630) and my SJT was 680.
I have a 7.00 GPA due to completing my honours in psychology this year (if all goes well haha). I guess a more practical question would be if it’s possible to improve upon an apptitude like test such a the UCAT (and previous UMAT)? I’ll have a go at GAMSAT as well in the future but would just love to hear if anyone has improved from a score such as mine?
Sorry if this is v wordy, or not the most appropriate comment but I’d be very appreciative of any advice/guidance! :)
Imo it's definitely possible to improve in the UCAT.

You mentioned that you didn't score as well as you would've liked in AR but fortunately that's the section where you'll see the most gains in through sustained practice. If you're willing to shell out the ~$100 for a Medify subscription (definitely worth imo), work through the hundreds of AR patterns in their question bank, starting off by doing individual questions then progressing to timed practice (doing 10/20/30/40 questions in 2.5/5/7.5/10 minutes). You won't notice any improvement at first, but by exposing yourself to as many patterns as possible, they will slowly but surely ingrain themselves in your mind. With enough practice and familiarity with all the possible questions, you get to a point where certain patterns simply pop out to you or "click" without even needing to think. For the patterns that don't, mentally running through all the rules you've encountered in your mind will help you solve them.

As for VR, keep up what you're doing! A 690 places you north of 93rd percentile.

DM: familiarise yourself with all the question types and identify your strengths and weaknesses. Develop a clear plan of attack that will help you maximise your marks. For me, that was evaluating arguments -> logic puzzles -> venn diagrams -> probability -> syllogisms, because I knew I would inevitably lose partial/full marks from the syllosigms, so it would be better to gain as many marks as I could in everything else.

QR: it's definitely worth doing a lot of QR questions (official or Medify it doesn't matter - they all replicate the final exam quite well) to know what kind of calculations you'll be expected to do. EXTREMELY common questions are calculating percentage change, ratios, exchange rates, volume, area, perimeter etc. One of the hardest parts of QR isn't inputting the numbers into the calculator but not knowing WHAT to input - all too often you'll re-read the question again and again and ask yourself "wait what is the question even asking me??" With practice you'll hopefully be able to reduce these kinds of moments and improve your speed :)

So in conclusion you can definitely improve in all the sections, with AR being the easiest to improve in imo. By developing your strategies of approaching and answering the questions you should see a noticeable improvement in the other sections as well. Good luck!
 
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sloth

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commonwealth supported place = government pays part of ur tuition (which is normal for like most uni things) and u don't have to do compulsory time in a rural setting :)
bmp = bonded medical place = compulsory working in rural area after graduation for x number of years
What is the fee for BMP then? Does govt still pay part of the fee?
 

Crow

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What is the fee for BMP then? Does govt still pay part of the fee?
Exact same as CSP, just with the additional requirements of the RoS. In fact, a BMP is still a Commonwealth Supported Place, just with strings attached.
 

Kezza

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Quick question, when applying to universities through UAC or QTAC - without knowing if you are going to qualify for an interview, are you essentially having to pay the fee and gamble that your UCAT is high enough to qualify?

It seems like a ridiculous money grab that university admission application is required prior to interview offers being released unless I am missing something here? As UWS requires your UAC number when applying, but you can't get a UAC number without paying for an application, which is useless if you aren't going to qualify for an interview offer which likely won't be known until October (past the UAC cutoff)
 

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TKAO

crossed fingers for ATAR
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Quick question, when applying to universities through UAC or QTAC - without knowing if you are going to qualify for an interview, are you essentially having to pay the fee and gamble that your UCAT is high enough to qualify?

It seems like a ridiculous money grab that university admission application is required prior to interview offers being released unless I am missing something here? As UWS requires your UAC number when applying, but you can't get a UAC number without paying for an application, which is useless if you aren't going to qualify for an interview offer which likely won't be known until October (past the UAC cutoff)
The long and short of it is that - yes it is all a gamble. There is no certainty in these things and unis are willing to exploit you for your money. The fact is that if you aren't willing to gamble it, someone else is. They are the house and you are the gambler, the house always wins. Demand for medicine far outstrips supply in this scenario.
 

Kezza

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The long and short of it is that - yes it is all a gamble. There is no certainty in these things and unis are willing to exploit you for your money. The fact is that if you aren't willing to gamble it, someone else is. They are the house and you are the gambler, the house always wins. Demand for medicine far outstrips supply in this scenario.
For sure - Figured I wasn't missing anything here and it was just a well organised cash grab.

I have been searching through these forums trying to find a date that offers are released by universities (i.e. if a student were successful in their interview and were to receive an offer to study from the university). Is there a post regarding this that i could peruse?

Edit: Finally found one - Although its 4 years old - offers came out on January 18th for UNE/JMP and WSU
 

A1

Admissions Speculator
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As UWS requires your UAC number when applying
Better way to describe this^ is one UAC application is required first for WSU + all other NSW unis. The WSU application is only supplemental.

Most NSW Y12 students don't see this as a cash grab since they are going to apply for a place somewhere anyway, not necessarily just med schools.

Wait until you want to apply for grad entry, the application fee to Gemsas or USyd is around $500 I think.
 

TKAO

crossed fingers for ATAR
Gold star winner
For sure - Figured I wasn't missing anything here and it was just a well organised cash grab.

I have been searching through these forums trying to find a date that offers are released by universities (i.e. if a student were successful in their interview and were to receive an offer to study from the university). Is there a post regarding this that i could peruse?
Collated offers forum has some dates. These are generally first round dates. Also check each of the TACs handbooks to see when they say first and second round offers are released.
 

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Medco2019

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When you apply for universities, they ask for UCAT identification number. In my result sheet I have two numbers: UCAT ANZ ID and Registration ID. Which one should I use?
 

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conrs

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Has anyone had issues with errors in their scores? There is one section (DM) in which my score was very significantly lower than the others, which was a surprise given my mock scores etc, and the way I felt during/following the exam. The more I think about it, the more the score seems super strange... I know it's probably not an error but just wondering in case anyone has contacted Pearson with a similar problem?
 

ucatboy

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Has anyone had issues with errors in their scores? There is one section (DM) in which my score was very significantly lower than the others, which was a surprise given my mock scores etc, and the way I felt during/following the exam. The more I think about it, the more the score seems super strange... I know it's probably not an error but just wondering in case anyone has contacted Pearson with a similar problem?
How much lower was your DM score compared to your medify average/mental range? I thought I did wonderfully in VR (better than all my official mocks in fact) and answered all the questions properly but got hit with a >200 drop in comparison to my medify and official mock averages. My VR score's still above average (relative to whole cohort) so it's not 300 or anything, which makes me think the marking was correct and it was just nerves.
 

conrs

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How much lower was your DM score compared to your medify average/mental range? I thought I did wonderfully in VR (better than all my official mocks in fact) and answered all the questions properly but got hit with a >200 drop in comparison to my medify and official mock averages. My VR score's still above average (relative to whole cohort) so it's not 300 or anything, which makes me think the marking was correct and it was just nerves.
Probably around a 200 drop... and every other section of the exam I was well above average- in this section, according to the SDs/averages etc I am apparently in the 9th percentile, whereas each other section was 70-80+ percentiles, which is where my concern lies.
 

Filifalcon

I'm funny apparently
Probably around a 200 drop... and every other section of the exam I was well above average- in this section, according to the SDs/averages etc I am apparently in the 9th percentile, whereas each other section was 70-80+ percentiles, which is where my concern lies.
If you're concerned defs hit them up. At the end of the day, it's either a mistake on their part or nerves which play a big part in your focus for a test.
 

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