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Post-UCAT Discussion 2020

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ucatboy said:
You really think I hadn't thought about that? ;)
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[MedStudentsOnline.com.au] Post-UCAT Discussion 2020

The way you phrased that reminded me of this classic meme format
 
Me rn thinking of best case scenarios for those of us who just missed out:
14000*2527=35,378,000
150*1200 =180,000 (totally not gonna happen, I'm just kidding btw, all the best to those who haven't sat yet)
35,378,000+180,000=35,558,000
35,558,000/14,150= 2513 mean......🤔

Edit*** Haven't had to use this style of maths since that oh so glorious and memorable day in July
 
Is there a dedicated what are my chances thread? Or is that just the past year collated offer data. Is this my chance to advertise the discord server from last year?
 
pt88 said:
Is there a dedicated what are my chances thread? Or is that just the past year collated offer data
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Yep! That'll be opened when the official percentile calculator is released (sometime in early September if I recall correctly).
 
Sandwich74 said:
Is there a reason why the 9th decile scores (VR:670, DM:750, QR: 800, AR: 770) Add up to 2990 not, 2920? Some of the others don't add up as well
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The deciles are for individual subsection as well as for the total score. Adding up won’t help. The total score decile is not meant to be the sum of invidual sub section decile.

The total score of 2920 means that it is the 90th percentile score/90th decile score with all the total scores

The score of 670 in VR means that it is 90th percentile or 9th decile with all the scores of VR for this year.
So deciles of each subsection is comparing the scores of all students in that subsection and coming up with percentile/decile of that subsection.
 
Try20 said:
The deciles are for individual subsection as well as for the total score. Adding up won’t help. The total score decile is not meant to be the sum of invidual sub section decile.

The total score of 2920 means that it is the 90th percentile score/90th decile score with all the total scores

The score of 670 in VR means that it is 90th percentile or 9th decile with all the scores of VR for this year.
So deciles of each subsection is comparing the scores of all students in that subsection and coming up with percentile/decile of that subsection.
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I think Sandwich74 is asking WHY doesn't adding up the individual deciles equal the overall decile, especially when it makes sense intuitively. Refer to this post, which hopefully makes sense:
ucatboy said:
I've given it a bit of thought, and I think I can explain why the sum of individual S.D.s will always be equal or greater than the overall S.D.:

The only situation where the sum of individiual S.D.s would equal the overall S.D. would be if one student achieved 99th percentile for every section (= 99 overall), one student achieved 98th percentile for every section (= 98 overall) etc. etc.

In reality, the diverse nature of the UCAT subtests means that you're unlikely to be this consistent and top the charts in every single section. What actually happens, and what you'll find here on MSO, is that you might be good in some sections and slightly worse in others. So in reality, that 99th percentile VR, DM, QR and AR score doesn't all go to the same person - the 99th percentile VR score might belong to the someone who got 80th percentile in DM, for example.

When this "mixing" of scores occurs, everyone's scores get closer together i.e. instead of student A with 900 in every section and student B with 600 in every section, student A might have 600, 900, 600, 900 and student B 900, 600, 900, 600. This represents a "narrowing" of the normal distribution curve:

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As a result, the overall standard deviation has reduced, going below the sum of the individual standard deviations. This is the reason why if you get, let's say, 1.282 standard deviations above the mean (equivalent to 90th percentile) for the individual subtests VR, DM, QR and AR, your actual OVERALL standard deviation above the mean (and hence, overall percentile) is a fair bit higher than that.
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avocowdo said:
Here's hoping WSU's VR weighting pulls me through because I defs underperformed this year <3
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Me too... the interview invite forum from last year is giving me hope but that might be false hope too! Such a roller coaster of emotions, yes-no!-maybe???
This is my first attempt and can only say I really take my hat off to the people that have put themselves through this multiple times. Respect.
 
For all those expressing disappointment or concern about their UCAT score, I wrote this thread a couple of years ago which may be useful: Advice for those displeased with their UCAT result

Please don’t give up all hope at this stage. I can assure you I know what it’s like to sit tests like this and be unhappy with the result. This is just one pathway into medicine/dentistry, and one you can attempt as many times as you like. You will have plenty of other opportunities if you want them. You’re all worthy. This is just the unfortunate reality of the supply of medical and dental school applicants vastly outweighing the number of places on offer.
 
BeginAgain said:
Me too... the interview invite forum from last year is giving me hope but that might be false hope too! Such a roller coaster of emotions, yes-no!-maybe???
This is my first attempt and can only say I really take my hat off to the people that have put themselves through this multiple times. Respect.
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Don't lose hope yet! If you're GWS you won't really know what the stats for that pool is like until the invites roll out. Also you'll definitely perform better the 2nd time if you don't make it this time, I just happened to slip up on the day. Good luck!
 
Okay, we are waiting for the official percentile statistics release in September before asking any more questions, so the statistics coming out on Monday the 31st is a 'sneak preview' ?
 
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