Quality of UNSW med course

Discussion in 'New South Wales' started by Jarvjami, Aug 7, 2013.

  1. Jarvjami

    Jarvjami New Member

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    Okay, so I recently spoke to a guy who used to lecture science at UNSW, and so he did lecture the medicine students. He was very adamant that it was a baaad idea for me (and my friend who was with me) to go to UNSW because they changed the course and now it sucks.
    According to him, there are three phases? of two years or something? The first phase is basic science and clinical skills, which he complained has more content crammed into less contact hours, the second phase is a compulsory research project that according to him is a gigantic waste of time and the third phase is experience in hospitals where the doctors get really annoyed at you because you haven't done basic science or clinical skills since the first phase and so can't remember anything.
    He said that the reason the course got so bad was because UNSW has a high ranking (which I do know is only based on the research the uni does, not the quality of its teaching) and so lots of students go there and so the uni doesn't have to put lots of effort into making the course really good.

    I live a zillion kilometres away from Sydney and therefore can't visit and don't know anyone to ask about it

    So is this right? Can anyone explain this phase business? Should I avoid UNSW? By that I mean on the off chance I get more than one (if that) offer should I not choose UNSW?
    Or is this guy wrong and is it the same quality as any other course (Monash, UQ, JCU etc.)
     
  2. Daisy 6

    Daisy 6 Regular Member

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    Sounds like a disillusioned ex-UNSW academic...
    I don't really know about the changed course structure but as far as I've heard, all the Australian unis turn out perfectly good junior doctors, and if they weren't doing so, there'd be issues before too long with continued accreditation of their courses.
     
  3. Nimbus2000

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    ^Agreed! Before I start this, I should say, I'm not a UNSW med student and wouldn't know what exactly it is like, so the following are just my opinions:
    They do have phases, and what you've described seem like rough guesstimates as to what each one is like. As to the comments about "gigantic waste of time", don't listen to him - it's an opportunity to research, and whilst I don't completely agree with it being smack in the middle of their course (just doesn't make sense to me), it's still an opportunity you get that not many other uni's give! As to his comment about the 3rd phase - I don't see it as an argument at all! I'm pretty sure all clinical students know they're expected to have at least some knowledge of what they're going to be doing, so if they go in without knowing, obviously the doctors are going to get annoyed.

    It almost sounds like he wants the course to be easy. News flash to him then, med is not easy. Nor is it designed to be so, anywhere. (I think. That's an assumption I've made).

    In summary: exactly what Daisy 6 said, don't discard it as a choice just based on what he said! I'm sure there are plenty of people who'll tell you otherwise! There are several meddies from UNSW on here, and I highly doubt that any of them super duper hate the course!
     
  4. Season

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    I'm afraid the OP is correct,

    UNSW is crap, and we're all training in how to kill people.
     
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    Havox Sword and Martini Guy! Emeritus

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    Dr Cox: "You're not medical students. You are all murderers and assassins sent here to kill my patients."
     
  6. Season

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    Why do you think we have an advanced pathology trainee programme built into the degree, accredited by the RCPA ?
     

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