Studying Medicine in Europe

A1

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Is it really that hard to get an internship/job in Aus with an international medical degree?

AMC has three pathways for IMGs. The Competent pathway is for graduates from UK/Ireland/US/Canada med schools so not applicable to you. That leaves:
- The Standard pathway : An interns Audit report two years ago shows there was ONE who gained an internship, out of 3400ish positions on offer Australia-wide.
- The Specialist pathway : Have a read of it here > Specialist Pathway

does Australia really have such an oversupply of medical graduates?

The mentioned 3400ish internships went to 3100 CSP + domestic FFP graduates (none missed out unless they wanted to take a break) and 300 int'l-student graduates out of ~550. If it's viewed as an oversupply of graduates it'd only be for int'l students. Is 3400 interns too many for Australia's needs? If so it could be called an over-employment of interns by State Health departments/hospitals.
 

dd12345

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Hi there,

I'm not sure if there is a better place to post this, but I couldn't find a direct answer to my questions elsewhere.


My partner (first year doctor from the Netherlands) and I are planning a move to Australia in the next few years as I am Australian. We have done a lot of research, but it's hard to know where to start - we are also seeing so much contradictory information. I think we are looking at him taking the Standard pathway but I have a few questions, and if anyone can provide advise that would be great!

- We can are considering applying for PR before moving via the partner visa route - is this a recommended choice? I believe he will then be subject to section 19AA of the HIA but I don't quite know what that means. Alternatively he needs to apply for a working visa?

- Preferably we would like to get around the rural working requirement (at least initially) so we can be close to family. How does this work exactly with medicare? and does the 10 year moratorium begin from the moment he receives limited registration or when he receives general registration?

- Can he apply to specialise in Australia once he receives general registration?

If anyone has advice or experience on the above areas, I'd greatly appreciate it!
Thanks!
 

A1

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I think we are looking at him taking the Standard pathway
This^ is your major obstacle. Standard Pathway means your partner will need to sit/pass the AMC exam(s) in Australia then obtain a 12-month internship or AMC-approved supervised practice. Doesn't matter how many years he will have worked in the Netherlands this is required since Netherlands is not on the Competent-Authority list, and this 12mth thing is very difficult to obtain for an IMG.

To bypass this he needs to become a specialist there first then applies through the Specialist Pathway.

Preferably we would like to get around the rural working requirement (at least initially) so we can be close to family.
I believe he can get around this 10yr moratorium by opting to work for hospitals rather than independently. I know an int'l student who graduated in Aus 5yrs ago, he tells me he's subject to this moratorium but can continue working in metro hospitals.
 

dd12345

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This^ is your major obstacle. Standard Pathway means your partner will need to sit/pass the AMC exam(s) in Australia then obtain a 12-month internship or AMC-approved supervised practice. Doesn't matter how many years he will have worked in the Netherlands this is required since Netherlands is not on the Competent-Authority list, and this 12mth thing is very difficult to obtain for an IMG.

To bypass this he needs to become a specialist there first then applies through the Specialist Pathway.
I believe he can get around this 10yr moratorium by opting to work for hospitals rather than independently. I know an int'l student who graduated in Aus 5yrs ago, he tells me he's subject to this moratorium but can continue working in metro hospitals.
Thank you! This is very helpful.
From my research I gathered that the Standard pathway is his only option (specialist pathway will take too long as I'd like to be back in the next few years. With a few years experience, does he have any more options (e.g. applying for a job somewhere as a resident medical officer that receives extra supervision for that year? Or does he really need to do the same exact internship program that all other Australian graduates undergo? We do understand that he might need to - my bigger concern is about securing a spot.

Could you briefly understand the difference between working independently and working for a hospital, I don't quite understand as my only (limited) knowledge is of the Dutch medical system. I actually assumed that most doctors were employed by hospitals directly.
 

A1

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With a few years experience, does he have any more options (e.g. applying for a job somewhere as a resident medical officer that receives extra supervision for that year? Or does he really need to do the same exact internship program that all other Australian graduates undergo?
I don't think he'd need to do the same 12mth internship like Aus graduates, he can instead do a 12mth AMC-approved supervised practice. But I don't know if he can apply for an RMO job at some hospital and count the first 12mths as this AMC requirement. Perhaps chinaski can advise in better details.

Could you briefly understand the difference between working independently and working for a hospital
My limited understanding of the 10yr moratorium is it's not a restriction on your work location itself but a denial of Medicare benefits if the doctor works in a non-shortage/metro area. Say a metro GP charges patients X dollars for a visit he then also receives Y dollars co-payment from Medicare i.e. he doesn't need to charge patients the full (X+Y) dollars. If this GP is under moratorium he doesn't get the Medicare co-payment. Working as a public-servant hospital doctor circumvents this situation.
 
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