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subjects for bsc/mbbs year 2

BobSmith159

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ok, basically, i need to pick some subjects.

i've did BIOL1020, BIOL1040, CHEM1030, STAT1201 first sem;
CHEM1020, BIOM2011, BIOM2402 (which i am currently procrastinating for), MICR2000 this sem.

in retrospect, CHEM1030 was the most useless subject i've done of the 8, follwed closely by CHEM1020... it really is unfortunate that 1020 is a prereq for the biomed major...

essentially, i want to find some easy first year subjects i can do as fillers. my plan right now is:
sem 1: BIOL2200, BIOM3002, MATH1050, empty
sem 2: BIOM2012, BIOM2208, BIOM3015, empty

this fills all the prereqs required for the science component.

via a loophole, as a victorian, i am 99% sure i can do MATH1050 despite having done vce specialist maths.
for semester 1, people in the past have generally done either BIOM3401 (systems pharm) or BIOL3003 (ad immuno), and from what i've gotten from the numerous people i've talked to currently in med is that both these subjects go into too much detail and are virtually useless (first year med pharm is in less detail than BIOM2402 and the immuno from BIOM2011 and MICR2000 is really not any conceptually harder, just more content). as such, i've decided to do neither of them.

PSYC1020/1030 has come up, as has MATH1051 after doing MATH1050 (this will depend on how i feel about doing maths after the first semester), possibly MATE1000 if i feel adventurous and depending on how the people doing it this semester find it.

does anyone have any other suggestions?
- i was considering asking the science faculty if CHEE subjects were available since they're essentially a BIOL1020/MICR2000 bent set of subjects, just for engineers. except i didn't like BIOL1020 and despised MICR2000 with a passion i'd never thought i could ever muster in order to hate a subject so much, so... i'd just be doing it for ease
- CSSE1000, CSSE1001, INFS1200 - im no good with computers beyond a little step above the basic level.
- MATH1061... i can't handle too much sequences etc.
- BIOL2202. i HATE genetics.
- been told neuroanatomy is worth doing - i think ANAT3022? not sure. i would do it, but i think i want to relax a bit before going into med. the single most frequently recurring thing ive heard from twosie premeds is "enjoy these two years", and i plan to do so - though im not aiming to scrape pass by any means).
- any PHYS subject - haven't done physics at year 11/12 level
- BIOC2000 - it has been the recommendation by every single person who has done the subject, without exception, not to do the subject. it doesn't sound remotely appetising either.

ideally i would do ECON1010/1020 but the science faculty won't let me since it isn't under science
 
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godoftoast

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You wont be able to do math1050 even if you are Victorian ... people have tried that loophole only to be kicked out second week. For 3 easy fillers just do the 3 first year psycs = 1020/30/40 = easy to pass + less course work/contact hours required. However, 1020 doesnt have lectopia so you may have to actually go to lectures. BIOM3015 is such a useless course - enjoy learning about the RAS to a degree you wont need. I heard Microbes is better but I didnt study it. I dont even know what BIOM2008 is. Have a look at some of the SCIEXXXX courses - they tend to be easy. For first sem you could do BIOL1030 = ecology - one of the easiest courses ever designed. However the downside of that is you have to do a lot of group work and I've heard stories of lesss than desirable groupings. Avoid CSSE courses -> though they are first year they tend to be rather intensive and require a lot of work. Do PSYC2020 if you want to avoid sitting an EOS for a course. I recommend PSYC2030 as its an easy course that covers interesting material from child-rearing to depression/death etc = very good for gaining a new understanding on some social issues. PSYC2040 = has the easiest course marks ever = requires weekly tutorial participation but you get 20% of course marks by simply turning up and a further 20% for following their guidelines to a T and writing stuff like abstracts/methods etc.
 

BobSmith159

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for MATH1050, i know someone who did nsw 4 unit maths who is doing it.

PSYCs are really looking good at the moment

if i don't do BIOM3015, would you suggest i do MICR3001? - need a third year to fill the gap. i can't imagine MICR being more useful in any way though...
 

Cide

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Just make sure you check the approved list before you do them and then get stuck not fufilling the course requirements. I have also heard neuroanatomy is good.

I have heard genetics being recommended by some meddies, but it sounds and looks awful so I am staying clear of it. I am planning on filling my year with lots of psyc, especially my last semester, which I plan to be: Psyc1030, Psyc2020 and maybe Micr2000.

As you have I have heard BIOC2000 is death and to avoid it under any circumstances lol.
 

kizza_boy

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Lolwut genetics? No way. Not needed nor useful in any way. If anything, I'd say BIOC2000 is wayyyy more useful, as you do a substantial amount of biochemistry in first semester of MBBSI. That said, it's difficult and unpleasant (in my opinion). But yeah, PSYC10xx's all the way. Interesting, and easy, and very few contact hours!
 

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BobSmith159

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Does this contribute as 'research' after you graduate? or as B.sci/MD? (or is it still MBBS?)

BSc/MBBS. theyre not bringing in MD for another few years. you only get research in science if you do it as a subject or you so honours. im doing some over the break, but in melbourne, so no affiliated with uq
 

Cide

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It's a double degree, where you get to choose your subjects for your major in your science degree.

Not sure its a true, double degree....And you don't get total freedom in subject choice, but it is pretty great :p. And oh thanks Kizza, I really didn't want to do genetics. And oh Bob you are doing research too! What are you doing?
 

godoftoast

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for MATH1050, i know someone who did nsw 4 unit maths who is doing it.

PSYCs are really looking good at the moment

if i don't do BIOM3015, would you suggest i do MICR3001? - need a third year to fill the gap. i can't imagine MICR being more useful in any way though...

MICR3001 is apparently the most useful course ever. Unlike other micro courses which are concerned with bacteria in general, this course has a major focus on clinical settings and disease pathology + epidemiology. I didnt pick it because I am a slacker but people who have done that course say its brilliant.

Wrt math: yes you can try and cheat the system but in our cohort, a bunch of the people emailed science admissions and asked but were told they could not do the course. 3 fellas placed it down anyway and all 3 were picked out. Theres obviously the chance you wont get busted but if you do you may be in some strife.
 

godoftoast

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Not sure its a true, double degree....And you don't get total freedom in subject choice, but it is pretty great :p. And oh thanks Kizza, I really didn't want to do genetics. And oh Bob you are doing research too! What are you doing?

Watchu talkin 'bout Willis !? Umn it is a double degree in every sense of the word.
 

Cide

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Watchu talkin 'bout Willis !? Umn it is a double degree in every sense of the word.

Oh okay, just seemed the wrong definition of the double degree thing. But I suppose now I think of it, you do the core subjects and its a year shorter. So it makes sense to call it a double degree. I thought in a double degree though you did courses from both degrees at the same time. Which is something you don't do with BSc/MBBS
 

ExtraNice

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I did MATH1050. Nothing happened to me.

I didn't realize it was such a "big" deal until now. Nobody has called me up on it and it wasn't a complete cruise as we didn't no matrices in Victoria. And it's technically a course of the Biomed degree.

And if you do get the chance I do recommend MATH1050. I maybe biased as I enjoy math but it's a fantastically well organised course, tutors and lecturers are great. Really shows how poorly organised some of the BIOL courses are.
 
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BobSmith159

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Not sure its a true, double degree....And you don't get total freedom in subject choice, but it is pretty great :p. And oh thanks Kizza, I really didn't want to do genetics. And oh Bob you are doing research too! What are you doing?
im doing epithelial mesenchymal transition experimentation at the ludwig institute under the austin hospital.

I did MATH1050. Nothing happened to me.

I didn't realize it was such a "big" deal until now. Nobody has called me up on it and it wasn't a complete cruise as we didn't no matrices in Victoria. And it's technically a course of the Biomed degree.

And if you do get the chance I do recommend MATH1050. I maybe biased as I enjoy math but it's a fantastically well organised course, tutors and lecturers are great. Really shows how poorly organised some of the BIOL courses are.
ive only done spesh, but i was helping someone with 1050 last sem and 1051 this sem, and it didnt seem overly bad. i rocked up to a 1050 tute with said friend and they were doing matrices at the time. again, yeah, it wasnt overly bad.
i suppose the idea is to just put the subject down and hope they dont pick me up for it?
 

ExtraNice

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Yup go for it. The worst they can do is remove you from the course. And then just go for math1051 which shouldn't be too much harder.

They also do Series in 1050 which you don't do in math1050. Also I found that the way they taught vectors (forces on slopes etc) was different to how I was taught in both Year 12 Spesh and Physics, so for that also it was sorta like learning vectors again.

I really enjoyed 1050. I used math revision as a break from all the rote learning in biology and immunology.
 

Mas1991

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Watchu talkin 'bout Willis !? Umn it is a double degree in every sense of the word.

Technically it's not a double/dual degree. Theyre just gonna add the word science after medicine and surgery on the piece of paper that signifies completion. i cant qoute you but kashmuq complains about it all the time and that complainer always rants on facts.
 

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