What to do if you do not get Undergraduate Medicine?

[Ian Naga]

Some graduate entry medicine schools (eg Flinders/Monash/Melbourne (full Fee)/Bond (Private)/ANU etc) have some measure of preference for their own graduates. You may need to keep this in mind if you have a choice in where you do your undergraduate degree!



Here are some for your consideration:

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Flinders

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Flinders University Graduates Sub-quota

Up to 75% of places available will be reserved for Flinders University graduates who meet the application eligibility requirements. Up to 25 of these places are reserved for graduates of the Flinders Bachelor of Health Sciences, Bachelor of Medical Science, Bachelor of Paramedic Science and Bachelor of Science (Biotechnology – Medical Biotechnology Stream) and the remaining sub-quota places are reserved for graduates of any Flinders University qualification.

Applicants must have completed or are due to complete a Flinders University qualification by 31 December 2018 to be considered within this sub-quota. To be considered for this sub-quota applicants must indicate they are either about to complete a Bachelor degree or a postgraduate qualification in their application under the ‘Flinders University Studies’ section.

Non-Flinders University Graduates Sub-quota

A minimum of 25% of places will be reserved for graduates of a Bachelor degree or equivalent from an Australian university or other tertiary institution of equivalent standard, who do not hold a Flinders qualification. Historically, most, but not all, of these places have been taken up by applicants who do not hold a Flinders qualification but who were eligible to compete in one or more of the other sub-quotas, i.e. Rural, Humanitarian Visa and ATSI.

To be considered for this sub-quota applicants must indicate they are not about to complete or have not completed an undergraduate degree or postgraduate qualification at Flinders University under the ‘Flinders University Studies’ section.

https://www.flinders.edu.au/content...mestic/apply/flinders-md-admissions-guide.pdf

e.g:

Study the Bachelor of Health Sciences



Apply through SATAC



Bachelor of Health Sciences (214181)

This option will close no earlier than Monday 03 December 2018 but after that date it may close without notice. You are encouraged to apply without delay.

Deferment: This option is deferrable through Flinders University directly

Location: Flinders University

Duration: 3 years full-time (or equivalent part-time) | internal

Teaching commences: Monday 04 March 2019

This degree provides a flexible program of study giving students a broad understanding of the health care system. It provides exposure to a wide variety of health related professions and opportunities to transfer to a range of clinical and allied health specialities during the degree or on completion.

Pathways to other Flinders University Degrees
The Bachelor of Health Sciences provides students with foundational knowledge of the health sector and students are eligible to apply for entry to a number of other health-related undergraduate and postgraduate degrees at Flinders University. Entry to these degrees is by competitive application (generally through SATAC) and interested students should seek academic counselling prior to commencing their studies to confirm the correct sequence of topics they should follow for their interest area.

Medicine: up to 75 percent of places in the Doctor of Medicine are reserved for Flinders graduates. In addition, up to 25 places will be reserved for students completing the Bachelor of Health Sciences, Bachelor of Medical Science, Bachelor of Paramedic Science and the Bachelor of Science (Biotechnology) (Medical Biotechnology stream). For further details see www.flinders.edu.au/healthpathways.

Nutrition and Dietetics: students who complete two years of the Nutrition major (following the program of study as per the course rule) in the Bachelor of Health Sciences are eligible to apply for competitive transfer to third year of the Bachelor of Nutrition and Dietetics. Students completing the Life Sciences major may be eligible to apply for status towards the Advanced Diploma of Naturopathy offered by the Adelaide Training College of Complementary Medicine or the Advanced Diploma of Applied Science (Naturopathy) offered by the SA College of Natural and Traditional Medicine.

Further course information is available on the Institution course website

Essential admission requirements:

Refer admission criteria

Admission criteria:

The admission criteria have been grouped to assist you to easily find the information most relevant to your circumstances. However, you may fit into more than one and the university will consider applicants against all relevant criteria. Certain conditions may apply. For more information click here

Recent secondary education (within the past two years):

• Qualify for the South Australian Certificate of Education (SACE) or equivalent recent year 12 qualification (including the International Baccalaureate Diploma), and achieve a competitive selection rank.
• Research Project B: If you have strong results in the SACE Research Project B subject you will be considered for entry into this course on your Year 12 results combined with your Research Project B performance. If the combined score does not result in an enhanced selection rank, you will compete in the normal way.
• UniTEST: If you are completing an Australian Year 12 qualification this year, uniTEST is available to enhance your chances of getting into this course. We will select students based on Year 12 results combined with uniTEST performance. If you take the test and don’t do so well, don’t worry, we will only consider your ATAR Selection Rank.

Guaranteed year 12 entry rank: 90.00


Adjustment factor information that may be relevant to year 12 applicants is available here

Higher education:

• Completed or partially completed a recognised higher education program at a recognised higher education institution, or
• Completed a University Foundation Studies, Bridging or Enabling program

Vocational education:

• You can apply for this course with a complete TAFE/VET Certificate III or higher. You will be ranked on the level of your TAFE/VET qualification – the higher your qualification, the more competitive you will be. TAFElink is a guaranteed entry pathway if you’ve completed a TAFE/VET Certificate IV or higher level qualification (provided you meet the course prerequisite requirements). Guaranteed entry levels are published at TAFElink

Work and life experience (including previous year 12 qualifications):

• Completed a non-recent SACE or equivalent secondary education qualification with a competitive selection rank, including the International Baccalaureate Diploma (IB), or
• Special Tertiary Admissions Test (STAT), or
• Indigenous Admissions Scheme

Student profile:

The semester 1 2018 intake student profile for this course is available here

How to apply:

Information on applying through SATAC is available here



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Monash



Graduate entry

VTAC: Victorian Tertiary Admissions Centre



A Monash Bachelor of Biomedical Science allows you to apply to Monash Medicine - Graduate Entry. Entry is highly competitive. See http://www.med.monash.edu.au/medicine/admissions/grad-entry/index.html



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University of Melbourne



Also do not forget that ATAR 99 / OP 1 is all that is needed to apply to UMelb full fee pathway to medicine. There will be an interview (MMI) in the third year.

Bachelor of Biomedicine



While about one third of Melbourne Biomedicine graduates are selected into the Doctor of Medicine (MD) program at the University of Melbourne, representing over half the annual domestic intake for the MD, even more of our graduates collectively choose other graduate pathways including the Doctor of Dental Surgery (DDS), Doctor of Physiotherapy (DPT) and Doctor of Optometry (OD).



VTAC: Victorian Tertiary Admissions Centre



Dental:

VTAC: Victorian Tertiary Admissions Centre





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Bond University



Domestic and international** students eligible to graduate from the following Bond University programs: Bachelor of Biomedical Science (in the Pre-Health Professional major), the Master of Occupational Therapy, the Doctor of Physiotherapy or the Master of Nutrition and Dietetic Practice, meeting the minimum required GPA will be eligible to be considered for selection to enter Year 2 of the Bachelor of Medical Studies (BMedSt). The selection process will be based on GPA, psychometric testing and an interview. Places in Year 2 of the BMedSt for the graduates of these aforementioned programs are limited and dependent on availability.



https://bond.edu.au/program/bachelor-biomedical-science



https://bond.edu.au/program/medical-program/medical-program-entry-requirements



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ANU:



ANU undergraduate pathway to medicine at ANU (UMAT not needed). Low ATAR 90 /OP 6 requirement.

https://www.uac.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/anu/138302.shtml



Essential requirements for admission

Supplementary form: Entry to B Health Science is based on meeting both the minimum selection rank and a successful assessment of suitability. Suitability is determined by the submission and assessment of the B Health Science Supplementary Form, which is compulsory for all applicants. The supplementary form is available from anu.edu.au/study/apply/additional-selection-criteria-undergraduate-coursework-applications. This additional information should be submitted directly to the University by Friday 30 November 2018.

 

[Crow]

For those reading the above post, please read this if you haven't already: Common pitfalls to avoid for year 12 school leavers and other medicine applicants

Generally the advice given by any experienced members on this forum is to never do a degree for the sole purpose of gaining entry into medicine; all degrees should be completed on their own merits. Health science, medical science and biomedical science all have little to no solid career prospects, and the majority of graduates from these degrees find themselves unemployed at the end. The universities offering quotas for the degrees mentioned above are cash-grabs only and most offer quite a slim chance of ultimately gaining medicine entry; for example, less than 1/8 Monash biomedical science graduates will gain entry into Monash medicine.

To be honest, suggesting to med hopefuls that they do a degree that will most likely result in them being unemployed, not in medicine, with 3 years of their life wasted and accumulated HECS debt, is not good advice.

Good advice: do a degree that will provide you an alternative career path should you never gain entry into medicine; this is unfortunately the reality with medicine entrance whereby the number of applicants far exceeds the number of positions available.

 

[Ian Naga]

For those reading the above post, please read this if you haven't already: Common pitfalls to avoid for year 12 school leavers and other medicine applicants

Generally the advice given by any experienced members on this forum is to never do a degree for the sole purpose of gaining entry into medicine; all degrees should be completed on their own merits. Health science, medical science and biomedical science all have little to no solid career prospects, and the majority of graduates from these degrees find themselves unemployed at the end. The universities offering quotas for the degrees mentioned above are cash-grabs only and most offer quite a slim chance of ultimately gaining medicine entry; for example, less than 1/8 Monash biomedical science graduates will gain entry into Monash medicine.

To be honest, suggesting to med hopefuls that they do a degree that will most likely result in them being unemployed, not in medicine, with 3 years of their life wasted and accumulated HECS debt, is not good advice.

Good advice: do a degree that will provide you an alternative career path should you never gain entry into medicine; this is unfortunately the reality with medicine entrance whereby the number of applicants far exceeds the number of positions available.

True only if you consider the 1st degree as a terminal degree or you do an undergraduate professional degree like Pharmacy etc. However (eg for Melbourne/UWA/Accounting profession(CPA) etc) , the only pathway to some professional programs is through any undergraduate degree. So any degree including BioMed/Health Science can lead to the meeting of the undergraduate degree requirement for wide number of professional courses (from CPA to Medicine).

I agree that if your degree is going to be terminal, then it is best to get it in a field that interest you most and provides alternative career. But if your intent is to go beyond undergraduate and pursue graduate professional courses, a BioMed/HSc degree would not be a bad initial degree. I often see too many students go into a course (eg Pharmacy, Physiotherapy etc) and drop out after 1st year as they have lost their motivation. Then they go through a loop (gap year, start another degree etc). They have not only wasted HECS but also made themselves less attractive to graduate entry professional schools by dropping out from an undergraduate program! If you have not made up your mind at the end of Year 12 and need to do a degree, a BHsc/BioMed is not a bad idea. The list provided in the thread provides a list of Universities that could enhance your entry into a professional course. That's all. Please note the strict deadlines. Good Luck!