vexx
Regular Member
What's a "full fee guarantee"?
Melbourne university has full-fee places for local students and so you can get guaranteed entry into grad medicine if you meet prerequisites, like ATAR/GPA average/interview (no gamsat).
Please read: About MSO | Annual Welcome and Important Information | MSO Rules
What's NewIf you would like to get involved with MSO or have ideas, suggestions, comments, criticisms or other feedback please Contact Us
Registered members with 100+ posts do not see Ads
What's a "full fee guarantee"?
Melbourne university has full-fee places for local students and so you can get guaranteed entry into grad medicine if you meet prerequisites, like ATAR/GPA average/interview (no gamsat).
You are aware that such a place doesn't come with a guarantee you'll be given an internship, don't you? Melbourne gets your cash, but you might get a degree you can't use in exchange.
I'd prefer to do a degree this way, then not do a degree at all.. This will just be a backup plan if i dont get in to other unis/CSP melbourne.
An FFP is great for someone who wants to be a medical student - potentially not so great for someone who wants to be an intern thereafter.
The lack of employment dilemma is worth considering. An FFP is great for someone who wants to be a medical student - potentially not so great for someone who wants to be an intern thereafter. It's terrific, however, for Melbourne's coffers. Don't let desperation back you into a corner. There are better Plan Bs than an FFP.
Why would you want to be a medical student with no prospects of employment thereafter?
At the moment the CSP folks are still guaranteed spots right? :mellow:
Registered members with 100+ posts do not see Ads
Correct. The x-factor, however, is how much the sands are going to shift under your feet in the meantime.
4 years can be a long time...No point worrying about something you can't change though. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it
How hard is it getting into one of the specialist colleges?
That's a fair point, and its lucky that we have so many student advocacy organisations and associations for medicine.It's worth being active and vocal while you're a student, though. If you don't make your voice heard, the state and federal governments won't stop to ask you what you think.
So what do those who miss out do? Can they do the internship in their home countries?It is alarming to see how quickly things have shifted. When I graduated, nobody ever dreamed about not getting a job - indeed, many of us applied in several states, and had lots of job offers to choose from. Not even a decade on, and we're already seeing international FFPs in NSW miss out on internships this year. It's like night and day.
Fair enough, but in terms of overall training positions (in total) compared to the number of applicants. Would it stack up favourably?That rather depends on what college you apply to!
So what do those who miss out do? Can they do the internship in their home countries?
Fair enough, but in terms of overall training positions (in total) compared to the number of applicants. Would it stack up favourably?
Oh ok, the Malaysian students have been telling me that there are too many prospective interns back in their home country so that would mean that they're pretty much screwed when they graduate?That's the general feeling, though they can also find themselves on the outer back home, given that their MBBS isn't from their home country. Nonetheless, generally speaking, international FFPs have the option of applying overseas for internship, which is a more advantageous position than a domestic FFP might find themselves in.
At present, in general (ie excluding the very competitive specialties), getting onto a program isn't a drama. This will not be the case in a few years, though, as junior doctors move up the ladder. There will almost certainly be a bottleneck, which in the long term may well prove more soul-destroying than the initial scramble for intern jobs.
Oh ok, the Malaysian students have been telling me that there are too many prospective interns back in their home country so that would mean that they're pretty much screwed when they graduate?
If you don't get a training position, that would mean you'd be stuck as a Resident forever :cry: When you do think this bottleneck is going to occur? Surely as the years go by, we'll have more Consultants to train the next generation?
Where are these consultants meant to be coming from?
I'd say we'll have a much different workplace in 5-10 years as trainees bank up in the middle ranks. The hospitals will love it: lots and lots of unaccredited trainees, working their butts off with the hope that they get noticed enough to get onto the program of their choice. Trainees are great worker ants. The hospitals will enjoy having a glut of them to use at their will.
Coming from the currently Registrars I'm assuming. Oh dear...Thanks for answering China
Registered members with 100+ posts do not see Ads
How is your gap year going? Were your reasons similar to mine?
Registered members with 100+ posts do not see Ads