Flinders Flinders Medicine: Provisional Entry General Discussion

[ucatboy]

Just a theory, but perhaps the first four sections of the UCAT score aren't given equal weighting; from memory Flinders used to weight UMAT sections 1 and 2 much greater than section 3. I wouldn't be surprised if they were doing the same with the UCAT scores.

Also, not to cast any doubt on your friend, but quite often in the past it has later turned out that the friend's data originally reported wasn't accurate. Could this be the case here?

I still remember his scores lol: 630/680/760/760. However, this doesn't tell us much because User X’s scores are basically the same in terms of highs and lows: 600/730/800/750.

 

[Crow]

Well, if they’re weighting the middle two sections higher then that’s a considerable difference. Flinders used 45:45:10 with UMAT so hypothetically they could be making sections 1 and 4 of UCAT worth very minimal in a similar way to UMAT S3, in which case the differences between section scores of those two would be huge.

 

[Crow]

I’ve no idea, it’s entirely speculation. If Flinders told you you’re 55-75th on the waiting list that’s a better indicator than my speculation. Tbh that sounds very far down at this stage and I’d have a back up plan in order if I were you, as it seems unlikely that you’ll get an offer at this stage, unfortunately.

 

[rejected]

When I called Flinders they said they do not have access to the waitlist, and only the overall ranking of each applicant. Given there were around 62? offers last year would that mean that a ranking of 55-75 be slightly possible for a late offer if that ranking is actually between the 55 to 60 mark?

 

[rejected]

I called up again. The waiting list doesn't include people who had first round offers, so it is a waiting list

 

[Desperato]

Unlucky man try again next year, dont give up

 

[REGULAR JOE]

How did you get to know you were rejected?
I'm nonrural, my atar is 99.45, and in satac it says 'elligible for consideration'.

 

[Desperato]

That’s what it said on mine previously. This is because I was offered some other course and did not accept,reject or defer it on Satac. Once I did this it said eligible for consideration.

 

[REGULAR JOE]

That’s what it said on mine previously. This is because I was offered some other course and did not accept,reject or defer it on Satac. Once I did this it said eligible for consideration.

Yep exactly. I now remember mine had that exact same thing. When I responsed to my offer with '...consider for higher preferences'it changed back to saying 'elligible for consideration'

 

[H2.]

Can someone please provide advice on health science vs medical science? Before MD.

 

[welcometouniqlo]

Can someone please provide advice on health science vs medical science? Before MD.

I'm going to assume you're talking about clinical science. So, there are core subjects that everyone in clinical science will share regardless of your focus. In semester one of first year, these will be: Physiology, Molecular Basis of Life and either General Chemistry or Chemical Structure and Bonding depending on the Chemistry stream you choose. The only difference in first semester is that if you choose medical science you'll end up doing an MDSC topic called Skills for Medical Scientists and if you choose health science you'll end up doing a HLTH topic about the Australian healthcare system. The MDSC topic basically introduces you to skills that will help you conduct research - you learn about experimental designs and you actually get to write one yourself. You also learn how to write a literature review and a research proposal. You'll learn oral presentation skills too, and there is a lot of group work. The HLTH topic on the other hand teaches you about the role of healthcare professionals and how the Australian healthcare system works (I chose medical science so I can't speak too much about this topic).
In semester two, everyone will do Evolution of Biological Diversity, Legal and Ethical Aspects of Health Care and either Modern Chemistry or Chemistry for the Life Sciences. The difference between medical science and health science in semester 2 is that you'll do a communications topic in medical science (purely an English topic where you basically learn how to refine your writing) and a contemporary health issues topic in health science.
So I guess the main difference between health science and medical science is whether you want to learn a bit more about research or whether you'd prefer to learn about the Australian healthcare system and different perspectives on health. There are fewer exams in the health science focus if that appeals to you. One benefit of medical science, however, is that in second year you get an elective in semester 1, whereas people in health science don't (everyone has two elective slots in semester 2 though). The majority of people actually choose medical science but both are equally as relevant in preparing you for the MD given the majority of topics are basically the same across both focuses; moreover, you can tailor your electives in second year to help you prepare for MD. But you can literally choose any elective you want (e.g. a language) provided you've gotten approved.

 

[H2.]

I'm going to assume you're talking about clinical science. So, there are core subjects that everyone in clinical science will share regardless of your focus. In semester one of first year, these will be: Physiology, Molecular Basis of Life and either General Chemistry or Chemical Structure and Bonding depending on the Chemistry stream you choose. The only difference in first semester is that if you choose medical science you'll end up doing an MDSC topic called Skills for Medical Scientists and if you choose health science you'll end up doing a HLTH topic about the Australian healthcare system. The MDSC topic basically introduces you to skills that will help you conduct research - you learn about experimental designs and you actually get to write one yourself. You also learn how to write a literature review and a research proposal. You'll learn oral presentation skills too, and there is a lot of group work. The HLTH topic on the other hand teaches you about the role of healthcare professionals and how the Australian healthcare system works (I chose medical science so I can't speak too much about this topic).
In semester two, everyone will do Evolution of Biological Diversity, Legal and Ethical Aspects of Health Care and either Modern Chemistry or Chemistry for the Life Sciences. The difference between medical science and health science in semester 2 is that you'll do a communications topic in medical science (purely an English topic where you basically learn how to refine your writing) and a contemporary health issues topic in health science.
So I guess the main difference between health science and medical science is whether you want to learn a bit more about research or whether you'd prefer to learn about the Australian healthcare system and different perspectives on health. There are fewer exams in the health science focus if that appeals to you. One benefit of medical science, however, is that in second year you get an elective in semester 1, whereas people in health science don't (everyone has two elective slots in semester 2 though). The majority of people actually choose medical science but both are equally as relevant in preparing you for the MD given the majority of topics are basically the same across both focuses; moreover, you can tailor your electives in second year to help you prepare for MD. But you can literally choose any elective you want (e.g. a language) provided you've gotten approved.

Thank you very much for your comprehensive repply.

 

[H2.]

I'm going to assume you're talking about clinical science. So, there are core subjects that everyone in clinical science will share regardless of your focus. In semester one of first year, these will be: Physiology, Molecular Basis of Life and either General Chemistry or Chemical Structure and Bonding depending on the Chemistry stream you choose. The only difference in first semester is that if you choose medical science you'll end up doing an MDSC topic called Skills for Medical Scientists and if you choose health science you'll end up doing a HLTH topic about the Australian healthcare system. The MDSC topic basically introduces you to skills that will help you conduct research - you learn about experimental designs and you actually get to write one yourself. You also learn how to write a literature review and a research proposal. You'll learn oral presentation skills too, and there is a lot of group work. The HLTH topic on the other hand teaches you about the role of healthcare professionals and how the Australian healthcare system works (I chose medical science so I can't speak too much about this topic).
In semester two, everyone will do Evolution of Biological Diversity, Legal and Ethical Aspects of Health Care and either Modern Chemistry or Chemistry for the Life Sciences. The difference between medical science and health science in semester 2 is that you'll do a communications topic in medical science (purely an English topic where you basically learn how to refine your writing) and a contemporary health issues topic in health science.
So I guess the main difference between health science and medical science is whether you want to learn a bit more about research or whether you'd prefer to learn about the Australian healthcare system and different perspectives on health. There are fewer exams in the health science focus if that appeals to you. One benefit of medical science, however, is that in second year you get an elective in semester 1, whereas people in health science don't (everyone has two elective slots in semester 2 though). The majority of people actually choose medical science but both are equally as relevant in preparing you for the MD given the majority of topics are basically the same across both focuses; moreover, you can tailor your electives in second year to help you prepare for MD. But you can literally choose any elective you want (e.g. a language) provided you've gotten approved.

Is it easier to sustain a higher GPA in one pathway than the other? And did you enjoy medical science specific core subjects?

 

[Crow]

Is it easier to sustain a higher GPA in one pathway than the other? And did you enjoy medical science specific core subjects?

Generally you’ll achieve more highly when you’re studying something you enjoy / are interested in, so just pick whatever one interests you more. I can’t see there being a significant difference in GPA between the two degrees and there will likely be a fair amount of overlap anyway.

 

[welcometouniqlo]

Is it easier to sustain a higher GPA in one pathway than the other? And did you enjoy medical science specific core subjects?

As said, there is a lot of overlap between the two, so do which one you think you will enjoy more - there shouldn't be a huge difference in difficulty and maintaining the GPA needed isn't hard at all. The first semester core subject, MDSC Skills for Medical Scientists, was definitely a lot more stimulating and enjoyable than the one in second semester. You learn a lot of invaluable skills from MDSC that will help you with your other topics.

 

[name.]

Hi, if this isn't supposed to be here or it's already asked, sorry. I was just curious as to how it all works with Flinder's med. After you finish the 6 years you have to do one year internship right? So what exactly do you finish with? In my knowledge you can work as a GP, or Intern. So how about specialising in a certain branch of medicine or surgery or something? Also, I've heard you can do placements internationally, how does that work?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hi, if this isn't supposed to be here or it's already asked, sorry. I was just curious as to how it all works with Flinder's med. After you finish the 6 years you have to do one year internship right? So what exactly do you finish with? In my knowledge you can work as a GP, or Intern. So how about specialising in a certain branch of medicine or surgery or something? Also, I've heard you can do placements internationally, how does that work?

At the end of the 6 years you have a Bachelor degree and an MD. In order to obtain your general registration, you have to successfully complete an internship. This isn’t unique to Flinders, it’s the same for all Med unis in Australia.

Your knowledge re. “GP or intern” seems incorrect and you should have a look at the pathways to GP specialisation in Aus.

Most universities offer an elective opportunity at some stage that can be completed overseas. Again, this isn’t unique to Flinders.

It seems you probably need to do some google searching and reading up on the different components, requirements, and pathways (both of the Flinders degree and of medicine more generally).

Are you a year 12 student hoping to apply to Flinders for 2021 entry?

 

[name.]

At the end of the 6 years you have a Bachelor degree and an MD. In order to obtain your general registration, you have to successfully complete an internship. This isn’t unique to Flinders, it’s the same for all Med unis in Australia.

Your knowledge re. “GP or intern” seems incorrect and you should have a look at the pathways to GP specialisation in Aus.

Most universities offer an elective opportunity at some stage that can be completed overseas. Again, this isn’t unique to Flinders.

It seems you probably need to do some google searching and reading up on the different components, requirements, and pathways (both of the Flinders degree and of medicine more generally).

Are you a year 12 student hoping to apply to Flinders for 2021 entry?

Oh ok, I'll have a bit more of a look around. I'm in year 11 at the moment. Thank you

 

[Doradoraaa]

Hi guys
If I stuff up my ucat (get a score around 85%) but somehow manage to get 99.95, would Flinders med still accept me?

 

[ucatboy]

Hi guys
If I stuff up my ucat (get a score around 85%) but somehow manage to get 99.95, would Flinders med still accept me?

Yeah probs, although it may not be a first-round offer.