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JPM WSU/CSU JPM: Questions and Discussion

Just on this - do location preferences for the WSU/CSU work the same as UNCLE/UNE in that the higher your interview rank is the better chance you have of receiving your preferred location? the UAC application (attached) seems to imply that for the WSU/CSU program it is is an either or choice?

I have a feeling that's just a clunky way of collecting your preference data. From what I've read, it seems like it'll operate similar to JMP's merit-based allocation system (though keeping in mind their rural targets for the new campus).
 
Cheers! - also another random question. Do we think there will be two different pools of applicants interviews for the non-rural WSU and CSU interview places given that for receiving a WSU invite, an applicant's GWS status matters, whereas it wouldn't really be logical to apply the same to CSU non-rural interview invites?

Obviously we'll have to wait until JPM releases interview invites to know for sure, but my prediction is: since CSU aims for 80% rural students they will interview all JPM rural applicants there, plus any non-rurals who prefer CSU in the application. The rest including GWS would be interviewed by WSU.
 
Perhaps for the section weightings, but as I suggested above it would be quite illogical to select non-rural candidates for an interview at CSU based off WSU's overall lower requirements for GWS students even if they're the same program...

A correction first - WSU does not apply lower UCAT requirements (for interview) to GWS students. Their policy is to allocate half the interview slots to GWS, then because there are fewer GWS applicants than non-GWS it "naturally occurs" that the UCAT cutoff is lower.

In terms of WSU vs CSU interviews, I believe they will select the interview quota commonly first *before* assigning them the interview location i.e. not selecting X number for WSU + Y number for CSU with different cutoffs.
 
They use both a 50% quota for interviews as well as a lower cut-off I thought (?) - I called them awhile ago and was told the same, and I got the attached off the AMC...

The image you’ve attached quotes UMAT so it’s definitely not up to date. What are you saying that the image indicates (I’m a bit confused by your reply)
 
Just clarifying that there is actually a lower UCAT cut-off for interviews for GWS students - fair point the table refers to UMAT but I called WSU around Feb of this year and was told the same? 🙃

I suspect the issue here is a terminology one. ‘Cut-off’ and ‘threshold’ get thrown around quite a bit (here and by admissions staff) and they would seem to imply a hard and fast number that is pre-determined. However, we know this simply can’t be true and the end numbers are rather a product of a more favourable applicant to interview ratio. It routinely occurs that GWS (and rural) applicants are successful with lower UCATs (historically, UMATs) when compared to non-GWS/non-rural applicants, but it’s impossible for the universities to pre-determine these and set them as official cut-offs because they can’t know them until they have applicant data in their hands. The only things that are set are the amount of interview spots on offer for each ‘group’. The scores required to be successful are simply (in part) a product of that.

Does that make sense?
 
Official update from WSU:

Changes to MMI Interview process for 2021 entry for General and Rural Admission Scheme Applicants (REAS)
The Multiple Mini Interviews (MMI) is still an entry requirement for the MD in 2021 however due to the restrictions in place to control the COVID-19 pandemic, all domestic General and REAS applicants will complete their interviews for 2021 entry via videoconferencing.
The interview structure will remain the same in that each applicant will participate in a series of different 'stations'.
Each candidate will be required to answer the questions at each station.
Each station will have a different interviewer.
For those applicants who are invited to attend an interview, as part of the booking process you will be provided with further information, including technology and identification requirements, links and advice about how to access your interview.
 
Official update from WSU:

Changes to MMI Interview process for 2021 entry for General and Rural Admission Scheme Applicants (REAS)
The Multiple Mini Interviews (MMI) is still an entry requirement for the MD in 2021 however due to the restrictions in place to control the COVID-19 pandemic, all domestic General and REAS applicants will complete their interviews for 2021 entry via videoconferencing.
The interview structure will remain the same in that each applicant will participate in a series of different 'stations'.
Each candidate will be required to answer the questions at each station.
Each station will have a different interviewer.
For those applicants who are invited to attend an interview, as part of the booking process you will be provided with further information, including technology and identification requirements, links and advice about how to access your interview.
You're late to the party! ;) General Interview Discussion and Questions - 2021 Entry
 
Near the bottom of this webpage there's a link to a video recording of the information session
> Medicine

I have not viewed through its 1.5hr length, only picking out these bits:

- Since it's a joint program with WSU there will be one UAC course code for both campuses. Selection criteria and course structures appear to be identical.
- CSU will provide 37 places with 80% target rural applicants.
- WSU will have about 95 places. Total 132 is around 20 more places than WSU's recent intakes of 110.
Is the video still there A1? (I cannot find it) I would be very interested to watch it.
Many thanks.
 
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Is the video still there A1? (I cannot find it) I would be very interested to watch it.
Many thanks.

The link is gone from that webpage but I have found a direct link to it
> DOMC Online Medicine Event_0
(it required me to download something like Adobe Connect so don't be surprised if it pops up on you).

WARNING to WSU applicants : About two-third into the video the presenter said twice that to select Orange interviewees their UCAT will be compared against that of other Orange applicants (i.e. not JPM applicants). I may be reading too much into it but on surface this can lead to you, having indicated WSU preference, not getting an interview invite while someone with lower UCAT can get Orange interview if they indicated CSU preference.

Again I'm not sure if that is the case, only alerting you to the possibility.
 
Any data showing how many rural applications there were for the previous few years?
And if these are assessed as a separate pool for interview offers?

I'm a rural student, applying to CSU/WSU Orange Campus only.
 
Any data showing how many rural applications there were for the previous few years?
And if these are assessed as a separate pool for interview offers?

Assuming the same rural applicants for UNSW also applied to WSU the number was around 200 applicants. I'm fairly sure WSU put them in a separate pool since for one year rural offers were released 3-4 weeks before non-rural.

I saw in the video linked above, CSU has a target of 80% (30 out of 37 CSU places) for rural while WSU will also maintain the usual 15 places.
 
Assuming the same rural applicants for UNSW also applied to WSU the number was around 200 applicants. I'm fairly sure WSU put them in a separate pool since for one year rural offers were released 3-4 weeks before non-rural.

I saw in the video linked above, CSU has a target of 80% (30 out of 37 CSU places) for rural while WSU will also maintain the usual 15 places.
So then the ucat threshold would be significantly lower for rural in that case?
I received an email for WSU a while back that said the 'top 400ish' applicants receive interview invites... Interested to see how this works with that 80% rural quota for CSU.
 
Hi everyone! Long time lurker here.
Despite my relatively low UCAT score, I've decided to apply for WSU. I noticed, however, that my address places me in both REAS and GWS categories. Would applying through both pathways be allowed? I've had a look around but wasn't able to find an answer.
 
Hi everyone! Long time lurker here.
Despite my relatively low UCAT score, I've decided to apply for WSU. I noticed, however, that my address places me in both REAS and GWS categories. Would applying through both pathways be allowed? I've had a look around but wasn't able to find an answer.

That's definitely a question for the university(/ies), I'd say (more to see which would be the more favourable pathway to apply via because I doubt you can apply twice).

That said, requirements for rural generally tend to be lower, so this would be my gut instinct answer, and that would be even more so the case this year given the big bump in rural places brought about by the CSU campus inclusion (assuming you'd be okay being allocated there). If you receive an interview (regardless of the path you end up applying by), then I think it doesn't matter too much at that point, because (historically at least) they've interviewed x 3 the amount of places they have on offer within each pathway (so 15 rural places meant 45 interviews, etc).

Thinking about it a little more, if you'd rather stay at home and not move to the CSU campus, then GWS might be your better option, but given a 'relatively low UCAT' (we can look more at this once the UCAT calculator has been released and the thread opens, so definitely pop back then), the rural pathway might be a more realistic option.

But my top answer would still be to give the uni a call and see what they advise :D
 
That's definitely a question for the university(/ies), I'd say (more to see which would be the more favourable pathway to apply via because I doubt you can apply twice).

That said, requirements for rural generally tend to be lower, so this would be my gut instinct answer, and that would be even more so the case this year given the big bump in rural places brought about by the CSU campus inclusion (assuming you'd be okay being allocated there). If you receive an interview (regardless of the path you end up applying by), then I think it doesn't matter too much at that point, because (historically at least) they've interviewed x 3 the amount of places they have on offer within each pathway (so 15 rural places meant 45 interviews, etc).

Thinking about it a little more, if you'd rather stay at home and not move to the CSU campus, then GWS might be your better option, but given a 'relatively low UCAT' (we can look more at this once the UCAT calculator has been released and the thread opens, so definitely pop back then), the rural pathway might be a more realistic option.

But my top answer would still be to give the uni a call and see what they advise :D

Thank you for your response!! I'll send them an email since I wasn't able to speak to them over the phone yesterday :D
 
HI everyone, last year WSU required an application direct to WSU (by 30 Sep iirc) as well as via UAC, submitting UCAT. This year that doesn't seem to be the case? Can anyone confirm if there is no application process required for the JPM on the WSU site; just UAC?
 
HI everyone, last year WSU required an application direct to WSU (by 30 Sep iirc) as well as via UAC

Iirc last time WSU required a direct application was 3-4 years ago, mainly just to submit a predicted ATAR stamped by your school. They no longer do this since they will only check your ATAR/GPA eligibilty at the offer stage, not for interview selection.
 
Iirc last time WSU required a direct application was 3-4 years ago, mainly just to submit a predicted ATAR stamped by your school. They no longer do this since they will only check your ATAR/GPA eligibilty at the offer stage, not for interview selection.
Wsu required a direct application last year too. But it seems they no longer do.
 
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