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Admissions Centres Preferencing: General Discussion
- Thread starter Lyyrre
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There may be a good reason to muck around between UNSW & WSU though. Say you prefer UNSW in general but would prefer WSU unbonded > UNSW bonded, in this case you might want to take a chance with putting WSU higher than UNSW.
Reason being if you get a WSU offer (bonded or unbonded) in the mid-Jan offer round, you can accept it then move UNSW to 1st pref. With luck you might get a UNSW offer in the Feb offer round. If the offers are both unbonded or both bonded you choose UNSW, if one is unbonded you decline the bonded.
You can't do the other way around with UNSW 1st pref for the mid-Jan round, since WSU is unlikely to make Feb offers other than top-ups.
In this context UoN/JMP is similar to UNSW so for now put WSU highest then either UNSW or JMP next in your actual pref order.
To understand the nuances of this you need to know how the offer rounds work. WSU interviews both instate+interstate in the same round, otoh UNSW & JMP interview instate for the mid-Jan offer round then interstate for the Feb offer round. However in the Feb offer round UNSW/JMP include the remaining instate applicants in the running too.
So the difference is - if you put UNSW/JMP 1st pref and get a bonded offer, you don't have a WSU Feb round to try your luck for unbonded there. Otoh if you put WSU 1st pref and get a bonded offer, you can participate in UNSW's Feb round for unbonded.
Just a counter-post that I have heard the opposite for in-state JMP and this is backed up by nil MSO-reported in-state offers in the formal second January round for JMP in either of the last two years (but a top up was reported in mid-Feb by a likely in-state applicant two years ago). It may be necessary to wait for top ups (at random times) rather than just waiting for second Jan round for in-states.
This is really only relevant for UAC. Previously, WSU interviewed rural applicants in Nov/Dec and made offers to rural applicants in late Dec. I’m not sure what their plans are this year, w/r/t this, but if it is the same, you could put WSU as number 1 and possibly land yourself a pre-Christmas offer. Then, if UNSW or JMP is your actual first preference (and assuming you’ve interviewed at both/either), you could switch your preferences prior to the first Jan round lock-out period, and try for another offer.
As always, my STRONG caveat with this informations is: please DO NOT unnecessarily sit on multiple offers, this is incredibly unfair to people who are still waiting. Decline (via UAC and the University directly) any unwanted offers as soon as you make that decision so a timely offer can be made to the next person in line.
ETA: I think it’s also important to point out that these strategies don’t make you more likely to get an offer, they can just mean you get to know more offers that you’re eligible for and can potentially choose a second round CSP (that you wouldn’t otherwise have known about), over a first round BMP.
USyd's selection criteria makes it inaccessible to the vast majority of applicants. Although apparently USyd doesn't even participate in UAC offer rounds and calls up applicants to make an offer - my friends who participated in the interstate/IB USyd interview got a phone call later in the evening.
Yep, this is pretty consistent with what we hear every year. USyd med offers are by phone on the same day as the interview.
Hi guys, just had a quick question about preferencing for December round offers. Since med offers only come out in January (I think), should I be putting all my alternatives and back-ups to medicine first for the December round offers? I assume for UNSW I would still need to put that in my preferences since they give out interview offers based on ATAR and UCAT, but for WSU and UNE do I have to have them in my preferences for that round? Would that impact anything?
From memory, you have to have all the Med courses somewhere in your UAC application by the cut off (end of this month?). They don’t need to be the top three things, they just have to be in there somewhere. If you want a Dec offer of some kind, then move your backups to the top (I’m not sure about removing Med altogether, I doubt I’d be brave enough to do that!). Once you’ve received a December offer and UAC opens again for preference changes, do this (rearrange your preferences) in early Jan for first Jan round offer.
Adding to LMG! 's reply, the way UAC offers work now is you can put all the meds at higher prefs even for the Dec offer round. In that round UAC will ignore the prefs that are not participating and offer you the highest pref among the backups.
Alternatively if you want to be extra safe put the backup(s) highest, then accept the offer then move meds to highest before the pref-change close date for the January offer round.
knowthyself
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im sorry for repeating im a lil lost even after reading the info above.
so if u want to put for nsw, 1.unsw med, 2.wsu med, then 3.uon/une med followed by other degrees bcos u want those degrees in that order would it be a problem in recieving lower ranked offers (like wsu/uon etc.) for first round?
im sorry for repeating im a lil lost even after reading the info above.
so if u want to put for nsw, 1.unsw med, 2.wsu med, then 3.uon/une med followed by other degrees bcos u want those degrees in that order would it be a problem in recieving lower ranked offers (like wsu/uon etc.) for first round?
Many med schools, including the three NSW ones iirc, require you to have them in the pref list by close of application 30 Sept. If you remove the med prefs for the Dec round you CAN'T put them back, so be extremely careful.
No problem whatsoever. If you qualify for a UNSW offer of course you'll get that offer. If you miss out UNSW but qualify for WSU/JMP then you get WSU/JMP in the first round (January, not the Dec offer round). It's the exact point of how the prefs work.
hi everyone i have a question about UAC preferencing, so I'm applying for E12 at USYD which lowers the star requirement to 99.50 which if I sweat out the HSC big time is possible. I was thinking of putting that first, then UNSW, the UoN then WSU (my UCAT was 2830 but my VR was 590 so not great either way). I'm rural (RA3), so we interview earlier (like right after HSC concludes) but saw some posts on here about WSU potentially giving offers out earlier?? in which case how should i order these? THANK YOU
USyd seems to bypass UAC when they make offers so it should not matter which pref position, however I vaguely remember someone saying USyd asks you to put it 1st pref for consideration so do that to be safe. But remember to move USyd to below the other med schools *after* you have accepted USyd's offer, otherwise you may not be considered for more offers.
If WSU again releases rural offers early it'd be in the December offer round. In this case even if it's below UNSW/JMP you'd still get an offer since UNSW/JMP med don't participate in the Dec round. To play safe, put USyd 1st, WSU 2nd, the others below; then remember to swap them to your actual pref order by end of December.