Choosing Between Universities and Offers

[E_N]

Here is my situation —>

Course Type: Med
Offer Received: Yes
University (and campus if relevant): UTas Hobart
Date of Offer: 23/12/2022
Deadline to Accept: 04/01/2022
UCAT: 2700, 69th percentile
ATAR or GPA: 99.45
Rural: RA3
Offer Type: BMP
State of Residence: QLD
Other Information: Debating whether to accept/decline, given deadline is before other uni main offer rounds.

As above, I’m debating whether I accept this offer or not given main offer rounds are after the deadline for accepting this offer.

My considerations:

• I would like to pursue an undergrad course and complete the medical course as quickly as possible (5 years ideal).
• I am a Cairns student so would preferably like to stay closer to home, but this isn’t a huge consideration.
• Ideally would prefer non-bonded (CSP) but will happily accept if there is no other option.
• I hear the work life of doctors in Tassie isn’t that great (ambulance ramping etc.), but given I haven’t had personal experience I don’t know if this is a reasonable consideration.
• My main preference is for Monash Med, then JMP, followed by other 5-year courses and then JCU.

Given my circumstance, would I be better off accepting/declining? Do I still have a decent shot at Monash Med?

Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

 

[A1]

Given my circumstance, would I be better off accepting/declining?

The simplest solution to your "dilemma" is accept the UTas offer for now and wait. If another offer more suitable to you comes later you can withdraw from UTas. Another UTas applicant will gladly inherit your place, no harm done.

 

[E_N]

The simplest solution to your "dilemma" is accept the UTas offer for now and wait. If another offer more suitable to you comes later you can withdraw from UTas. Another UTas applicant will gladly inherit your place, no harm done.

It seems there is a cut-off for enrolment of 11 Jan (most offers come out 12/13 Jan), so I believe this wouldn’t be a viable option. Presumably it’s not possible to cancel enrolment thereafter. Any suggestions?

 

[A1]

It seems there is a cut-off for enrolment of 11 Jan (most offers come out 12/13 Jan), so I believe this wouldn’t be a viable option. Presumably it’s not possible to cancel enrolment thereafter.

You can enrol before 11-Jan then withdraw at anytime later, no-one can prevent you. One difference is - if you withdraw before the semester 1 census date (around end of March but check to be sure) you won't have a UTas academic record and won't be charged the HECS fees. If after the census date you incur both.

 

[E_N]

You can enrol before 11-Jan then withdraw at anytime later, no-one can prevent you. One difference is - if you withdraw before the semester 1 census date (around end of March but check to be sure) you won't have a UTas academic record and won't be charged the HECS fees. If after the census date you incur both.

Thanks for that. Arguably then the safest option would be to accept, fill out paperwork and then withdraw before semester 1 commencement. Can I guarantee that no other fees will apply?

A1 replies: Yes guaranteed. Many students have done that before.

 

[Nostradamus]

You can enrol before 11-Jan then withdraw at anytime later, no-one can prevent you. One difference is - if you withdraw before the semester 1 census date (around end of March but check to be sure) you won't have a UTas academic record and won't be charged the HECS fees. If after the census date you incur both.

Hello A1. Could you please advise;

1- Does this scenario of withdrawing before census date apply to other courses as well ?
For example f I accept and enrol in University of Sydney nursing now, that wouldn't stop JCU or Curtin from offering me medicine course in January round if I meet their requirements . Is that right ?

2- Also, if I accept Sydney Uni nursing and remove it from my preference list , I could still be considered for medicine by JMP or other UAC offers in January round of offers if I meet their threshold , right?

Many thanks .

 

[A1]

1- Does this scenario of withdrawing before census date apply to other courses as well ?

I'm fairly sure it's common across all unis/courses. Google you will see they all have a census date, which is the date the uni bases on to submit its enrolment numbers for federal funding. If you withdraw before census date your enrolment no longer exists thus no HECS fees charged.

There's no reason for QTAC/JCU or TISC/Curtin to dig into what other courses you have accepted in other states. If you qualify for JCU or Curtin the TAC is obligated to offer to you.

2- Also, if I accept Sydney Uni nursing and remove it from my preference list , I could still be considered for medicine by JMP or other UAC offers in January round of offers if I meet their threshold , right?

That's correct except one point. I had read some time ago that after accepting an offer you move it to bottom pref, not remove it. But if you have received a definite rejection (for Nursing) then yep, remove it.

 

[Cerize]

Would this also work (accepting an offer and waiting to see what comes out of the next round before to decide to withdraw before census) for courses offered at the same uni?
- I have been offered dent at CSU (3rd preference on uac) and need to accept or refuse before the end of the week but I’m worried it would stop me from finding out how I did for CSU med (1st preference on uac)…

Do we still receive offers for higher preferences even it’s at the same uni?

 

[A1]

Do we still receive offers for higher preferences even it’s at the same uni?

Definitely yes.
You accept (+ enrol if req'd) CSU Dent first then can leave it at 3rd or move to bottom. As long as CSU Med is higher pref (than any you have received) you will receive if you qualify in the next offer round.

EtA: But note this process is quite different with QTAC and TISC
- QTAC : If you accept the 1st offer unconditionally you WON'T be considered for another offer in later rounds. You have to accept conditionally, being if you get another QTAC offer QTAC will automatically withdraw the 1st offer (i.e. you can't sit on the two offers to decide which)
- TISC : If you get a higher pref offer in a later round TISC will do the same as QTAC.

 

[Cerize]

Definitely yes.
You accept (+ enrol if req'd) CSU Dent first then can leave it at 3rd or move to bottom. As long as CSU Med is higher pref (than any you have received) you will receive if you qualify in the next offer round.

Thank you!
I’ll accept then, making sure it’s below CSU med on UAC.

 

[Nostradamus]

I'm fairly sure it's common across all unis/courses. Google you will see they all have a census date, which is the date the uni bases on to submit its enrolment numbers for federal funding. If you withdraw before census date your enrolment no longer exists thus no HECS fees charged.

There's no reason for QTAC/JCU or TISC/Curtin to dig into what other courses you have accepted in other states. If you qualify for JCU or Curtin the TAC is obligated to offer to you.


That's correct except one point. I had read some time ago that after accepting an offer you move it to bottom pref, not remove it. But if you have received a definite rejection (for Nursing) then yep, remove it.

You are very helpful A1. Thank you

 

[STP]

Course Type: Med
Offer Received: Yes
University (and campus if relevant): UTas Hobart
Date of Offer: 10/1/23, 3:04am QLD Time
Deadline to Accept: 12/1/23, 11:59pm AEDST
UCAT: 85%ile, 2900, VR 670, DM 680, QR 780, AR 770, SJT 590
ATAR or GPA: 99.95 (Domestic overseas A-Levels A*A*A* Math Bio Chem, ATAR varies per state)
Rural: No
Special Considerations: No
Offer Type: CSP
State of Residence: Overseas
Other Information: Between this and Griff Provisional

I have a CSP UTas offer and have until the 12th of Jan to accept it. Bc of the deadline I have to decide in advance pretty much. I was originally hoping for Griffith BMedSci but after getting a (very unexpected) offer from UTas I'm not sure anymore. I have spent my day weighing up both unis. UTas is cool bc it's 1yr less, 100% unbonded, in a safer city, better climate (I hate bugs and bugs hate cold). But Griffith is ranked slightly higher than UTas and also the Gold Coast University Hospital seems to be newer, larger, more advanced, and more respected than Royal Hobart Hospital. Since GCUH is a bit more advanced would that affect specialization options? I have no clue what to do with such little time to think about it.

 

[A1]

I have no clue what to do with such little time to think about it.

I'm not supportive of your thought process on school ranks but you do have a lot of time for choosing.

You can accept UTas offer for now (and enrol if acceptance requires to), sit until if you receive another offer then decide.
Accepting UTas doesn't bind you to it for life, you have until census date to withdraw without any liabilities (although you are expected to advise UTas asap if you decide to decline to give them time to offer the place to another applicant).

According to this link UTas 2023 semester 1 census date is 21st March
> All study period dates for 2023

 

[ar456]

Hi all,

I got jmp (UoN) and Adelaide non-bonded med offers this morning. I'm unsure which one to pick. JMP is obviously shorter, but then Adelaide as a city is more appealing to me. Also not sure if this is important but i've booked adelaide accom, but not jmp so idk if there's any good places left. More importantly, I was just wondering what your opinions are on both the programs (also in terms of research, future opportunities).

Also any thoughts on these offers compared to unsw med. I have got a unsw interview, but not sure now if I should go ahead with that (given chance of bonded offer).

Thanks!

Also for context, I'm a gap-year interstate from qld.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hi all,

I got jmp (UoN) and Adelaide non-bonded med offers this morning. I'm unsure which one to pick. JMP is obviously shorter, but then Adelaide as a city is more appealing to me. Also not sure if this is important but i've booked adelaide accom, but not jmp so idk if there's any good places left. More importantly, I was just wondering what your opinions are on both the programs (also in terms of research, future opportunities).

Also any thoughts on these offers compared to unsw med. I have got a unsw interview, but not sure now if I should go ahead with that (given chance of bonded offer).

Thanks!

Also for context, I'm a gap-year interstate from qld.

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[cb1105]

Hey! I got UNE & UQ bonded medicine. I'm really torn on which to do. Any advice would be appreciated!

 

[ThunderDragon]

Hi all,

I got jmp (UoN) and Adelaide non-bonded med offers this morning. I'm unsure which one to pick. JMP is obviously shorter, but then Adelaide as a city is more appealing to me. Also not sure if this is important but i've booked adelaide accom, but not jmp so idk if there's any good places left. More importantly, I was just wondering what your opinions are on both the programs (also in terms of research, future opportunities).

Also any thoughts on these offers compared to unsw med. I have got a unsw interview, but not sure now if I should go ahead with that (given chance of bonded offer).

Thanks!

Also for context, I'm a gap-year interstate from qld.

Not sure about your first question but in terms of UNSW med, its up to you whether flying down to Sydney is worth it for you or not? Would you rather go to UON/Adelaide over UNSW? If the answer is yes, then I dont think its necessary to go ahead with that. If you are unsure, you could book the UNSW interview and decline it later if you decided you didn't want to go.

 

[ar456]

Hopefully this is the correct template


Home state: QLD (gap year)
ATAR: 99.75
UCAT: 3270
Offer 1: JMP @ UoN (5yr) (put 1st on UAC) - unbonded
Offer 2: University of Adelaide - Medicine (6yr) - unbonded
Potential Offer: UNSW (6yr) (put 2nd on UAC)
Any scholarships offered: Nope
Any accommodation secured: Yes for Adelaide, not yet for Newcastle
Internship location preference: No real preference, probably qld if i had to pick

Other Information:
I'm currently torn between JMP and UAdel. JMP is obviously shorter, but then Adelaide as a city is more appealing to me. Newcastle is a smaller city so potentially has fewer opportunities (e.g., part time employment, etc.) Also, I'm not sure if having accommodation booked already as shown above is a major consideration. More importantly, I was just wondering what your opinions are on both the programs (also in terms of research, facilities internships, specialty training).

My second query was about any major advantages to pursuing UNSW medicine or JMP medicine (@UoN). If not, which is what I'm thinking, then I may not go ahead with the UNSW interview next week. JMP is a shorter course, apparently has more clinical opportunities (needs to be verified) earlier, and I've secured an unbonded spot. Any thoughts on this?

Any experience from UNSW or JMP students?

Thanks!

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hey! I got UNE & UQ bonded medicine. I'm really torn on which to do. Any advice would be appreciated!

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[cb1105]

Home state: NSW
UCAT: 2740, 72nd%ile
ATAR: 94.60
Offer 1: JMP @ UNE - BMP (put 2nd on UAC)
Offer 2: UQ Med - BMP (Put 2nd on QTAC)
Potential Offer: Maybe UNSW (1st on UAC)
Any scholarships offered: $5000 at UNSW
Any accommodation secured: NO
Internship location preference: NO

Other Information:
Hey! I got UNE & UQ bonded medicine. I'm really torn on which to do. Any advice would be appreciated!

UQ appeals to me location wise as I'd probably prefer Brisbane over Armidale though the length of the degree and risk of provisional entry are a litle concerning to me. Also not sure if I want to spend 3 years doing an undergrad when I could jump straight into a medicine degree. However, UQ does have more accomodation options and part time job opportunities unike armidale.

UNE is well known and only five years of a pure medical degree which really appeals to me. However, as mentioned earlier the location isn't ideal and is difficult to access from my current location therefore perhaps making it difficult to go home in emergencies. UNE being a smaller uni also appeals as I think the sense of community might be greater but not sure.

I was just wondering what other factors I should be considering and realistically which is the better degree. Would love to here UQ and UNE students views!! Still maybe hoping for UNSW though not incredibly concerned as extremely surprised by the choice I have through these two options!!