Choosing Between Universities and Offers

[A1]

Home state: NSW
Offer 1: (CSP/BMP) Umelbourn biomedicine atar99.9
Offer 2: (CSP/BMP) will get Griffith
Any scholarships offered: yes from Umelbourn
Any accommodation secured: not yet
Internship location preference: NSW
Other important information: which one should I choose? Both provisional Umelbourn 7 years 3rd year need interview.

Griffith 6 years but risks getting bonded MD.
UMelb gives scholarship (only the undergrad years I think) but 7 years & risks not passing the 3rd-year interview (albeit very few don't).

Myself I wouldn't want to be struck out by the subjective interview I would lean toward Griffith. The $value of UMelb scholarship is evened out by Griffith graduating/earning a salary a year sooner.

 

[mc*]

Not sure if this is the right place to post as most are Post grad unis.

Home state: TAS
Offer 1: Usyd CSP (rural campus from yr1) 4yr course
Offer 2: UQ CSP (rural from yr2) - 4yr course
Offer 3. Utas BMP - 5yr course
Declined Offer 4. Flinders BMP mdrs - 4yr - due to bmp

Any scholarships offered: no but half rural cohort (12/24) receive a scholarship for Usyd rural campus $15000
Any accommodation secured: Yes for Usyd first year subsidised and Utas (home state)
Internship location preference: no current pref
Other important information: Applied to utas before this is first time sitting gamsat. May have to relocate Utas yr3/4. would be working a year earlier if I go to usyd or uq. Work in Tas but a small part of it can be done online.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Not sure if this is the right place to post as most are Post grad unis.

Home state: TAS
Offer 1: Usyd CSP (rural campus from yr1) 4yr course
Offer 2: UQ CSP (rural from yr2) - 4yr course
Offer 3. Utas BMP - 5yr course
Declined Offer 4. Flinders BMP mdrs - 4yr - due to bmp

Any scholarships offered: no but half rural cohort (12/24) receive a scholarship for Usyd rural campus $15000
Any accommodation secured: Yes for Usyd first year subsidised and Utas (home state)
Internship location preference: no current pref
Other important information: Applied to utas before this is first time sitting gamsat. May have to relocate Utas yr3/4. would be working a year earlier if I go to usyd or uq. Work in Tas but a small part of it can be done online.

Given you already have your UTAS offer, there’s a fair chance your BMP gets bumped to a CSP by the time all offers are finalised, but obviously I can’t guarantee it.

I’d imagine that USyd scholarship will largely be chump change when it comes to the differences in cost of living between Sydney/NSW and TAS. However, Sydney and UQ will mean 1 year less HECS (~12k) and earning a salary 1 year earlier (~100k inc overtime).

I worked part time in a 9-5 job for the entirety of my UTAS degree and had no issues whatsoever so you’d definitely be able to keep working.

If finances aren’t a big obstacle, then (as a fellow Tassie local) I’d probably be weighing up whether I was keen to experience living in a different state (where are the rural campuses for USyd and UQ)?

When I got my UTAS offer, I also got Armidale and Western Sydney based offers, and ultimately decided that the convenience of staying at home (I had a mortgage), being able to work at my decent paying job still, and the fact that I’ve been lucky to experience living elsewhere previously meant UTAS was the right course for me.

Congrats on your offers! Definitely keen to hear more about what you decide to do!

 

[himiko_sky]

Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me out with choosing between JCU and CQU. I am a QLD resident nonrural. I just got a JCU interview, but my ATAR was also unexpectedly above the Griffith requirement, so I would like to add on an additional Griffith university also. However, I would need to delete 1 university from my application to do this. I already have USC on my application.

Right now, I have 2 CQU bonded preferences at Rocky and Bundy. Given that CQU has a very small number of bonded places, would I be maximizing my chances by deleting Rocky and adding on Griffith Nathan, allowing me to keep JCU Townsville on the list?

Or is it worth keeping the 2 CQU preferences, given that it is a lesser known course?

Sorry for the convoluted message. Thanks!

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me out with choosing between JCU and CQU. I am a QLD resident nonrural. I just got a JCU interview, but my ATAR was also unexpectedly above the Griffith requirement, so I would like to add on an additional Griffith university also. However, I would need to delete 1 university from my application to do this. I already have USC on my application.

Right now, I have 2 CQU bonded preferences at Rocky and Bundy. Given that CQU has a very small number of bonded places, would I be maximizing my chances by deleting Rocky and adding on Griffith Nathan, allowing me to keep JCU Townsville on the list?

Or is it worth keeping the 2 CQU preferences, given that it is a lesser known course?

Sorry for the convoluted message. Thanks!

I would delete your least preferred bonded option and add Griffith Nathan in instead. You will have to compete for a CSP after the first portion of the degree, but your chances of a CSP are decent. This is based on your ATAR being 99.90 which is what I recall it to be from memory. If I’m misremembering let me know!

 

[himiko_sky]

I would delete your least preferred bonded option and add Griffith Nathan in instead. You will have to compete for a CSP after the first portion of the degree, but your chances of a CSP are decent. This is based on your ATAR being 99.90 which is what I recall it to be from memory. If I’m misremembering let me know!

Done! Thanks for all of your help again, you are a legend.

 

[mc*]

Given you already have your UTAS offer, there’s a fair chance your BMP gets bumped to a CSP by the time all offers are finalised, but obviously I can’t guarantee it.

I’d imagine that USyd scholarship will largely be chump change when it comes to the differences in cost of living between Sydney/NSW and TAS. However, Sydney and UQ will mean 1 year less HECS (~12k) and earning a salary 1 year earlier (~100k inc overtime).

I worked part time in a 9-5 job for the entirety of my UTAS degree and had no issues whatsoever so you’d definitely be able to keep working.

If finances aren’t a big obstacle, then (as a fellow Tassie local) I’d probably be weighing up whether I was keen to experience living in a different state (where are the rural campuses for USyd and UQ)?

When I got my UTAS offer, I also got Armidale and Western Sydney based offers, and ultimately decided that the convenience of staying at home (I had a mortgage), being able to work at my decent paying job still, and the fact that I’ve been lucky to experience living elsewhere previously meant UTAS was the right course for me.

Congrats on your offers! Definitely keen to hear more about what you decide to do!

Thank you, will definitely consider those points. The rural campuses are Bundaberg/Hervey Bay area for UQ and Dubbo for USyd (Big country town).

 

[Sam-2028]

Given you already have your UTAS offer, there’s a fair chance your BMP gets bumped to a CSP by the time all offers are finalised, but obviously I can’t guarantee it.

I’d imagine that USyd scholarship will largely be chump change when it comes to the differences in cost of living between Sydney/NSW and TAS. However, Sydney and UQ will mean 1 year less HECS (~12k) and earning a salary 1 year earlier (~100k inc overtime).

I worked part time in a 9-5 job for the entirety of my UTAS degree and had no issues whatsoever so you’d definitely be able to keep working.

If finances aren’t a big obstacle, then (as a fellow Tassie local) I’d probably be weighing up whether I was keen to experience living in a different state (where are the rural campuses for USyd and UQ)?

When I got my UTAS offer, I also got Armidale and Western Sydney based offers, and ultimately decided that the convenience of staying at home (I had a mortgage), being able to work at my decent paying job still, and the fact that I’ve been lucky to experience living elsewhere previously meant UTAS was the right course for me.

Congrats on your offers! Definitely keen to hear more about what you decide to do!

Hi DrDrLMG! - i am in similar situation ( got BMP offer but prefer CSP). if I accept the current BMP offer will i still be eligible for CSP when all the offers are finalised? There is a deadline to accept the current BMP offer so if i don’t accept i may loose the offer..

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hi DrDrLMG! - i am in similar situation ( got BMP offer but prefer CSP). if I accept the current BMP offer will i still be eligible for CSP when all the offers are finalised? There is a deadline to accept the current BMP offer so if i don’t accept i may loose the offer..

Yes! You won’t be sent the paperwork to sign the BMP contract until after the teaching year has started and there’ll be plenty of movement in the BMP —> CSP space before then. No guarantee you’ll be one of them obviously but best of luck!

 

[orangenmango]

Is there any chance to switch from BMP to CSP during / after teaching period has started? This is for UWA

 

[A1]

Is there any chance to switch from BMP to CSP during / after teaching period has started? This is for UWA

Not likely after 2 weeks into the teaching period.

During the first 2 weeks it's possible (but rarely) the school detects a CSP not turning up without informing the school they declined. The school promotes a BMP to the CSP and give the BMP to the next applicant.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Just a query would it be better to accept griffth unbonded than wsu bonded?

As I mentioned to you elsewhere, please use the standardised format, there is more to weighing up options than just BMP vs CSP

Home state:
Offer 1:
Offer 2:
Any scholarships offered:
Any accommodation secured:
Internship location preference:
Other important information:

 

[Jamie2232]

As I mentioned to you elsewhere, please use the standardised format, there is more to weighing up options than just BMP vs CSP

Home state:
Offer 1:
Offer 2:
Any scholarships offered:
Any accommodation secured:
Internship location preference:
Other important information:

Sorry mb

Home state: NSW
Offer 1: Griffth GC
Offer 2: WSU (BMP)
Any scholarships offered: None
Any accommodation secured:None
Internship location preference: Sydney (RPAH)
Other important information: N/A

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Sorry mb

Home state: NSW
Offer 1: Griffth GC
Offer 2: WSU (BMP)
Any scholarships offered: None
Any accommodation secured:None
Internship location preference: Sydney (RPAH)
Other important information: N/A

Lots of things point you in the direction of the WSU offer in my opinion. Would you be able to live at home? Cost saving between the two is pretty huge when you consider the difference between the following:
1. Living at home (assuming you can) vs moving out
2. Five years of HECS vs six
3. Working a year earlier (rough intern salary including overtime = 100k)

The CSP at Griffith isn’t guaranteed also, as far as I recall. It’s determined at the end of the first two years. So you could still end up with a BMP either way. Plus your WSU offer could yet get upgraded to unbonded.

Plus your internship location preference. It’s pretty likely you’d get a NSW internship as a Qld grad, though perhaps in a late round, but it’s very unlikely (to the point I’d almost say definitely not) going to be RPAH.

You no doubt have different motivations, but it would be the WSU offer for me given the circumstances you’ve outlined.

 

[Jamie2232]

Right ic your points thank you for the advice!

 

[Tomato]

Lots of things point you in the direction of the WSU offer in my opinion. Would you be able to live at home? Cost saving between the two is pretty huge when you consider the difference between the following:
1. Living at home (assuming you can) vs moving out
2. Five years of HECS vs six
3. Working a year earlier (rough intern salary including overtime = 100k)

The CSP at Griffith isn’t guaranteed also, as far as I recall. It’s determined at the end of the first two years. So you could still end up with a BMP either way. Plus your WSU offer could yet get upgraded to unbonded.

Plus your internship location preference. It’s pretty likely you’d get a NSW internship as a Qld grad, though perhaps in a late round, but it’s very unlikely (to the point I’d almost say definitely not) going to be RPAH.

You no doubt have different motivations, but it would be the WSU offer for me given the circumstances you’ve outlined.

You mentioned the 5yrs of HECS vs 6yrs. The tuition fee is cheaper in the initial 2 yrs at Griffith. What is the situation at WSU? Do they charge the same fee throughout 5 yrs?

 

[A1]

The tuition fee is cheaper in the initial 2 yrs at Griffith.

The Griffith's 2 years is an accelerated degree comprising 3 years worth of units. Some units may be cheaper but effectively they'd pay 7 years of tuition fees vs WSU 5 years.

 

[Jamie2232]

Home state: NSW
Offer 1: UNSW (CSP)
Offer 2: WSU (BMP)
Any scholarships offered: None
Any accommodation secured:None
Internship location preference: Sydney (RPAH)
Other important information: N/A

I haven't received unsw however I am curious on ppls thoughts as to if one year earlier of graduation weighs out a bmp?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Home state: NSW
Offer 1: UNSW (CSP)
Offer 2: WSU (BMP)
Any scholarships offered: None
Any accommodation secured:None
Internship location preference: Sydney (RPAH)
Other important information: N/A

I haven't received unsw however I am curious on ppls thoughts as to if one year earlier of graduation weighs out a bmp?

Not necessarily for me it wouldn’t, BUT… I’d be taking into consideration things you’ve not mentioned here. Would I be living at home for one of these but not the other? What are my immediate financial circumstances? Do I have a job I’d have to quit if I went to one but not the other etc etc…

If immediate finances were no barrier, I’d choose no BMP. But in reality that wasn’t the case for me starting med, so I would have been prioritising living at home, job, less HECS, working a year earlier and seeing where those factors got me.

 

[cherry19]

Home state: NSW
Offer 1: WSU CSP
Offer 2: UNSW BMP
Any scholarships offered: No
Any accommodation secured: I live right near UNSW and don't have accomodation for WSU
Internship location preference: NSW
Other important information: Any advice would be appreciated, UNSW would be really convenient for me but it's BMP and a year longer so idkk which one to pick. I'm also 2 years out of high school so I'm not sure if the quicker path is more wise or not