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EASY Otago 200 Level Papers

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I'm currently looking at the list for 2014 summer school, and I'm wondering which papers are relatively easy to get an A+ in? I've heard people say FORB201 is fairly easy, is that true? The papers offered seem quite limited for 2014 summer school compared to other years.

2014 List of Papers, Summer School, University of Otago, New Zealand

The FORBS paper is run by a really funny guy - if it's the guy I think it is, so I would go for that for sure (it's also fairly easy). I think the other traditional paper to be done in summer school is HUNT233 which is also very easy.
 
The FORBS paper is run by a really funny guy - if it's the guy I think it is, so I would go for that for sure (it's also fairly easy). I think the other traditional paper to be done in summer school is HUNT233 which is also very easy.


It says it's by "Sir John Walsh Research Institute, Oral Sciences".

Anyway, is the research project fairly easy? It's worth 40% and I've never really been that good at big projects.
 
It says it's by "Sir John Walsh Research Institute, Oral Sciences".

Anyway, is the research project fairly easy? It's worth 40% and I've never really been that good at big projects.

The main lecturer is Prof Jules Keiser (I think he's the director of the Sir John Walsh Research Institute?), he teaches dent and he is possibly the funniest lecturer I've ever had. I've had a little bit of forensics from him and it was really interesting, he has some amazing stories from the Boxing Day tsunami, Chch earthquake etc. I don't know much about the actual paper but I did find this from searching for it: 'What papers should I do at UoO for graduate entry' Chat/enquiries. [MENTION=4350]koochkooch[/MENTION] seemed to really love it so maybe he can tell you more about the research project.
 
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I'm currently looking at the list for 2014 summer school, and I'm wondering which papers are relatively easy to get an A+ in? I've heard people say FORB201 is fairly easy, is that true? The papers offered seem quite limited for 2014 summer school compared to other years.

2014 List of Papers, Summer School, University of Otago, New Zealand
If you want good marks definitely take it. The workload is minimal and the terms test and final exam are based on the same two topics every year - blood stain analysis and decomposition. I think I've got some notes floating around somewhere. I can try to dig them up if you're interested. If you are serious about maintaining a high GPA I would suggest taking both FORB201 and HUNT233 in summer school.
 
I'm currently looking at the list for 2014 summer school, and I'm wondering which papers are relatively easy to get an A+ in? I've heard people say FORB201 is fairly easy, is that true? The papers offered seem quite limited for 2014 summer school compared to other years.

2014 List of Papers, Summer School, University of Otago, New Zealand

Take Koochkooch's advice and take both FORB 201 and HUNT 233 - 2 A+ is very doable.

I did it at the start of this year, I'll try to find my old assignments/notes
 
If you want good marks definitely take it. The workload is minimal and the terms test and final exam are based on the same two topics every year - blood stain analysis and decomposition. I think I've got some notes floating around somewhere. I can try to dig them up if you're interested. If you are serious about maintaining a high GPA I would suggest taking both FORB201 and HUNT233 in summer school.

Take Koochkooch's advice and take both FORB 201 and HUNT 233 - 2 A+ is very doable.

I did it at the start of this year, I'll try to find my old assignments/notes

Really, both 200-level papers in summer school? Seems kind of risky doesn't it, I think most course advisors only advise you to take one paper in summer school. And I'll definitely be aiming for A+'s.

If you don't mind sharing, what marks did you get?

Also, I'd love to have your old notes if you can find them and don't mind sharing. I'm not doing much over the Christmas holidays so I can get ahead before summer school.
 
Really, both 200-level papers in summer school? Seems kind of risky doesn't it, I think most course advisors only advise you to take one paper in summer school. And I'll definitely be aiming for A+'s.

If you don't mind sharing, what marks did you get?

Also, I'd love to have your old notes if you can find them and don't mind sharing. I'm not doing much over the Christmas holidays so I can get ahead before summer school.

FORB 201 on its own is very little workload, so it's not risky at all to add another paper like HUNT 233. HUNT 233 is definitely more work than FORB 201, but less work than 200-level science papers that are offered during semester. I know some people who took only FORB 201 and during semester 1 of third year, all of them were regretting not taking another SS paper.

And since you ask: Overall, I got 92 for HUNT 233 and 94 for FORB 201 - It wasn't a free ticket by any means and you'll definitely need to study more than other SS students at times, but I definitely had time to enjoy my holidays too (well at times when i didnt have assignments anyways). Compared to the work I put into normal semesters, it was a lot less for sure.

Hope that helps
 
If you don't mind sharing, what marks did you get?

Also, I'd love to have your old notes if you can find them and don't mind sharing. I'm not doing much over the Christmas holidays so I can get ahead before summer school.

FORB201 - 95% (attended first 4 lectures)
BIOA201 - 83% (attended all lectures, complained more than once about unfair marking, drudgery)

I'll have a look through some folders tonight and see what I can find for FORB.
 
FORB201 - 95% (attended first 4 lectures)
BIOA201 - 83% (attended all lectures, complained more than once about unfair marking, drudgery)

I'll have a look through some folders tonight and see what I can find for FORB.

Hello guys, I have just joined (2nd year genetics)

I have signed up for FORB201 and HUNT233 for 2014 summer school based on the advice from these forums. I think I read somewhere also that only 3 lectures for FORB201 are examined in the final, and the past papers questions look very repetitive. It is nice to hear that the lecturer should be really interesting, I will probably go to all of his lectures just for the experience (and because I will eventually have to pay for it lol). Might see you in class in the Summer Cogswell :) I think I have heard that quite a few postgraduate entrants to medicine did HUNT233 and said it was good to take.

Koochkooch and Danny would either of you possibly have any electronic notes or lecture slides for those papers that you wouldn't mind sending to me? I would really like to do some preparation before I start or at least read over some material to get an overview beforehand.

Also while I am here I should recommend GENE222 as the easiest science paper I have taken in 2nd year. I have just had my exam for this today and this probably is slightly premature but the exam today was very similar to most of the previous exams - they are really repetitive compared with my other 200-level science papers (GENE221, BIOC221, MICR221, GENE223) so if you do the past papers (some questions also go back to 2001 as the paper emerged from GENE212) and study hard I think it is quite reasonable for achieving 90%+. I am not naturally a strong mathematical person, however with practice I find mathematical-style exam questions much easier than long rote-learned essays. Due to the flexibility of question choice in the final, 80% can be largely logical or mathematical and also mostly found repeatedly in past papers, so you actually have a lot less that you need to memorise. That leaves four further modules and you would only need to study one more to complete the last 20 mark question (you might get away without studying 13 out of 31 lectures if you study impeccably for the other questions - I studied a couple of extra modules as back-up in case the questions changed but they didn't). Internals are a 10% phylogenetics assignment, 15% lab report and 5% blackboard unlimited attempt quiz (basically free 5%). I would recommend going through both the assignment and lab report with others to make sure you are on the right track. I worked hard especially on the lab report because it's 15% and got an internal average of 97%. I am not saying that so far I found this paper easy, but easier than other science papers. If you prefer logic and mathematical-based questions to rote-learning, and would go through the past papers then I would definitely recommend this paper. The genetics department approach to exams is that they want you to demonstrate understanding rather than just rote-learning which I prefer as in some other science papers there was so much rote learning and last semester I didn't manage my time well enough and couldn't learn everything for exams. I have learnt that really good time management (make study timetable a month before exams - took me about 5 hours before I was happy with it) and practicing past paper questions from the start of semester is really important.

Hope that's not too much info. about GENE222 but I found advice on these forums really helpful when choosing papers so I feel like too much detail is better than too little in case it is helpful to someone.

All the best with exams everyone :)

Just editing to say that GENE222 gave me a 97% overall so it really is a good paper especially if you do not like essays and are good at maths. It does take quite a lot of time to learn and understand the theory behind the maths (which you will get examined on) but if you work hard and practice everything (do as many exam questions as you can and start them when you start semester) then you should be fine as the questions are repeated a lot. Also the lecturer is really nice for the last two modules and there are confusing parts so make sure you ask. I used to think that it is kind of nerdy asking questions but I justify it now by thinking that it is better to be a nerd and get into medicine than not. And really all you are doing is asking someone a question, it's not the worst thing in the world.
 
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Hey I'm new to MSO and planning on doing summer school in 2014.. I was wondering if i could please have the HUNT and FORB stuff too. Thanks so much :)


Thanks so much for the FORB stuff koochkooch :)
 
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Hi there, i am also after some advice on easy 200 level summer school papers to bump up my GPA. Im planning on taking FORB201, but because i have already done HUNT223 i cant do HUNT233 at summer school. It sounds like BIOA201 isnt a good paper to take so does anyone have any other suggestions? does anyone know how easy it would be to get an A+ in PHSE240 in summer school.
Thanks for your help :)
 
Hey there,

I'm planning on doing summer school too and taking two papers, does anyone have any information about BITC211? It's the bioethics and film paper - the website only mentions that it's all internally assessed and I would like to know a bit about the workload etc. Also, does anyone have any advice on taking the first semester 300 level neurobiology paper? Because it's something that I am looking into but apparently can only be taken by departmental discretion (available to neuroscience students otherwise)

thanks!
 
Thank you sooo much koochkooch for the forb201 material! It is immeasurably useful and reassuring to have materials before the course starts, I really appreciate it :)
 
@hermione Hey, that's some great info! I think you just inspired me to do genetics as my major (just finished Hellsci). I have heard from a lot of people that GENE221 is quite easy (what do you say?) and your GENE222 thoughts are very inspiring. However, if you don't mind me asking, what was your GENE223 score? And can you shed some more light on the difficulty of the paper/general thoughs/things to do or watch out for, etc, as I haven't really read any discussion about this paper.Also, do you have any information that you may have come across concerning GENE 300 levels? Thanks in advance! =)
 
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@hermione Hey, that's some great info! I think you just inspired me to do genetics as my major (just finished Hellsci). I have heard from a lot of people that GENE221 is quite easy (what do you say?) and your GENE222 thoughts are very inspiring. However, if you don't mind me asking, what was your GENE223 score? And can you shed some more light on the difficulty of the paper/general thoughs/things to do or watch out for, etc, as I haven't really read any discussion about this paper.Also, do you have any information that you may have come across concerning GENE 300 levels? Thanks in advance! =)

oh there's FORB201 material going around?? I was thinking about doing it for summer school, would any one be kind enough to share, or am I being greedy =)

Hey Khaos, that is awesome, this may be obvious but I just warn you to be really careful when choosing your major as it can really affect your grades, if you are interested in genetics and the examining style suits you then it might be great for you. I would look at your third year papers first to determine which major to do as the third year counts for half of your entrance. And you can do what I did and see how first semester second year goes and change majors if need be. Between first and second semester is the latest time you can probably switch majors without too much difficulty, although it depends on the papers you've taken. I changed from Molecular Biotechnology to genetics because I realised I was really fascinated by and enjoyed genetics and that it has a large focus on logic and understanding behind the science, and also partly because it meant I could avoid the rote learning of biological pathways in biochem.

I would say that GENE221 is probably easier than MICR221 and BIOC221 aslong as you get your exam and study techniques right. My first semester grades don't really advocate GENE221 (GENE221: 72%, MICR221: 83%, BIOC221: 84%, MAOR110: 98%). I bombed out in my GENE221 exam because my time management was really poor and I didn't actually complete 25% of the exam due to not having practiced exam questions to time, I found adjusting to essay style exams quite difficult and did not manage my revision properly so that some material I knew backward but some I hardly knew at all. I would say that studying consistently long hours and constantly practicing for the exam throughout the semester is what is most important for success. I always set aside three hours each day to study any science lecture I have had that day and sometimes up to 2 hours for my other 'booster' paper lectures (BSNS106, COMP111, MAOR110), separate to any other assignments or study, although I tended to study less than that for my booster papers and spent more time on these closer to exam time.

I chose to change to genetics anyway because I was quite enthused by some of the material we learned in GENE221 and preferred the logic to rote-learning. Altering my study and exam technique meant that in GENE223 I got 93%.

Have to go now but I will post more about GENE221 and GENE223 sometime soon.

I am afraid I can't help you with 300 level GENE papers because I am just entering third year now. I will try and remember to post after first semester.

All the best in choosing your major and good luck for postgrad!
 
HUNT221 Opinions

Has anyone taken HUNT221. If they have could they please tell me how difficult the paper is? How much workload is given throughout the semester. How hard it is to write a decent article that gets good marks. How harshly do they mark assessment? Thanks
 
The main lecturer is Prof Jules Keiser (I think he's the director of the Sir John Walsh Research Institute?), he teaches dent and he is possibly the funniest lecturer I've ever had. I've had a little bit of forensics from him and it was really interesting, he has some amazing stories from the Boxing Day tsunami, Chch earthquake etc. I don't know much about the actual paper but I did find this from searching for it: 'What papers should I do at UoO for graduate entry' Chat/enquiries. @koochkooch seemed to really love it so maybe he can tell you more about the research project.

I'm wondering if FORB201 won't be as much fun this year since Jules passed away unexpectedly earlier this semester! :( I never met him but was really looking forward to FORB201 form these rave reviews. I hope it's still fun without him!!
 
The paper was fun with him, but just because he won't be teaching the course does not mean the material will suddenly become less interesting.
 
I'm wondering if FORB201 won't be as much fun this year since Jules passed away unexpectedly earlier this semester! :( I never met him but was really looking forward to FORB201 form these rave reviews. I hope it's still fun without him!!

I went to his memorial service, it was absolutely amazing the number of people whose lives he had an effect on + the stories people told about him. Idk, having seen some of the really fun-looking projects people were doing for FORB201 on fb, I wouldn't be surprised if a new course coordinator changed it up a bit.
 
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