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[Grad] Graduate Medicine FAQ and Quick Questions

Thanks Crow for the beast response. Only reason I'd consider doing BSc is because it is very much more theoretical than, say, a Bachelor of Physio or Pharmacy. In that sense, I feel like theoretical subjects are easier to score higher marks than more practical subjects just because of the nature of how practicals are examined. Theoretical subjects like anatomy are literally yes/no type, while a practical subject can be subjective. The trade-off is that obviously you don't have any career prospects after. But what are your thoughts to this?
haha yeah true. Fuar, so you finished psych and then went UTAS or mid-way transfer? I guess I've got to weight in does getting higher marks outweigh job prospects or visa- versa, still got a bit of time to decide.
LMG! and Mana have already summed it up pretty well - but my opinion remains firm - one should never do a degree solely for the purposes of gaining entry into medicine. Having a feasible alternative career option from the degree you choose by far trumps the opportunity for higher marks.

Regarding marks, I'm not actually sure I agree re: it being easier to score highly in a theoretical vs practical based degree. Every degree is going to consist of assessments with "subjective" marking - you'll find there's plenty of those in a science degree too. It's easier for a person to achieve high marks when they're interested in what they're studying and are willing to apply themselves in the process - for many, actually applying the knowledge that they've gained in a practical sense helps consolidate learning and potentially leads to a more engaged student who achieves very highly in those practical assessments. One could even argue that science / medical science cohorts consist of a more competitive group of students (in the sense that the majority are aiming for very high marks to gain entry to medicine) which actually makes it harder to score highly within the cohort when compared with (for example) other allied health and non-health degrees, where most of the students are not aiming for medicine and are less likely to be going all out to achieve HDs in every assessment piece.

TLDR: Don't do a degree solely for the sake of medicine entry - it will likely result in wasted time and money, give you little to no opportunity for employment at the end of it, probably won't help much with achieving higher marks, and arguably offers less opportunity to grow both personally and professionally (which as Mana has pointed out, can actually impact on your interview abilities further down the line when it comes to medicine entry).
 
Hi there,
just wondering if anyone has heard from waitlist of Sydney MD or DMD?
I am in waiting list for postgrad MD and DMD University of Sydney.
thanks.
 
Hi there,
just wondering if anyone has heard from waitlist of Sydney MD or DMD?
I am in waiting list for postgrad MD and DMD University of Sydney.
thanks.
Hi Kartoon, I noticed you posted in the UMAT thread that you are a current school-leaver who is applying to undergraduate entry programs. I am curious as to how you have also been waitlisted (i.e. you have sat the MMI) for the USyd MD and DMD programs, which require you to have a completed undergraduate degree - could you please share?
 
Hi Kartoon, I noticed you posted in the UMAT thread that you are a current school-leaver who is applying to undergraduate entry programs. I am curious as to how you have also been waitlisted (i.e. you have sat the MMI) for the USyd MD and DMD programs, which require you to have a completed undergraduate degree - could you please share?
thanks for your attention Crow :). you won't believe this but I am posting on behalf of my children, one in year 12 and one in Uni final year ,aiming for post Grad MD and DMD. Hope this is ok with MSO rules :)
 
thanks for your attention Crow :). you won't believe this but I am posting on behalf of my children, one in year 12 and one in Uni final year ,aiming for post Grad MD and DMD. Hope this is ok with MSO rules :)
No problems, we get a few parents on here from time to time! You will have better luck if you sign up to PagingDr (MSO mainly covers undergraduate entry) - there are threads regarding USyd's MD and DMD waitlists on there.
 
No problems, we get a few parents on here from time to time! You will have better luck if you sign up to PagingDr (MSO mainly covers undergraduate entry) - there are threads regarding USyd's MD and DMD waitlists on there.
sure, I will. thank you so much anyway :)
 
Hey guys I have a question I couldn't find on the GEMSAS guide. I'm doing a 4 year degree commerce/science (No honours). I plan on sitting the gamsat in my 3rd year, so I wanted to know if I managed to get a conditional offer from any university, then would the conditional offer be based on my marks from first year or will they only count 2nd and 3rd year then wait for my marks for 4th year to come out?
Thanks in advance.
 
Hey guys I have a question I couldn't find on the GEMSAS guide. I'm doing a 4 year degree commerce/science (No honours). I plan on sitting the gamsat in my 3rd year, so I wanted to know if I managed to get a conditional offer from any university, then would the conditional offer be based on my marks from first year or will they only count 2nd and 3rd year then wait for my marks for 4th year to come out?
Thanks in advance.

Have you checked Paging Dr? They have lots more information regarding the vagaries of grad med entry. There are a couple of people here that might have a clue, but I suspect you could find the answer yourself at PD.
 
Hey guys I have a question I couldn't find on the GEMSAS guide. I'm doing a 4 year degree commerce/science (No honours). I plan on sitting the gamsat in my 3rd year, so I wanted to know if I managed to get a conditional offer from any university, then would the conditional offer be based on my marks from first year or will they only count 2nd and 3rd year then wait for my marks for 4th year to come out?
Thanks in advance.
Is this a double degree or single degree? You can't apply to GEMSAS unless you're going to have a completed degree in the year you apply, i.e. you are welcome to sit GAMSAT in third year, but can't apply until your fourth year. The GPA is always calculated based off your three most recent FTE years of study, so in this case it will be your fourth year, third year and second year results - the fourth year GPA will be based only on your first semester results (because you won't have done the second semester yet when you apply), however, if you get a conditional offer it will require you to maintain a certain GPA for the remainder of the year (so your second semester of fourth year will "count" in this regard).

PS: The answer to this one is definitely in the GEMSAS guide.
 
Hi I'm hoping someone may be able to assist me. I completed my masters greater than 10 years ago. What options do I have in applying for medicine in the event that I don't wish to go back and study prior to studying medicine?

It seems ludicrous to me that there is this rule in place. Perhaps it is a way for universities to make even more $.
 
Hi I'm hoping someone may be able to assist me. I completed my masters greater than 10 years ago. What options do I have in applying for medicine in the event that I don't wish to go back and study prior to studying medicine?

It seems ludicrous to me that there is this rule in place. Perhaps it is a way for universities to make even more $.

Your only option, for grad entry, is to update your study recency with a grad cert or similar.

You may not have to do this for non-standard entry, I’m not sure I’ve ever come across recency of study requirements for WSU or JMP, but that could also be because I’ve not looked too hard.
 
Hi I'm hoping someone may be able to assist me. I completed my masters greater than 10 years ago. What options do I have in applying for medicine in the event that I don't wish to go back and study prior to studying medicine?

It seems ludicrous to me that there is this rule in place. Perhaps it is a way for universities to make even more $.

As mentioned above your best chances are to do a grad cert. If you are looking to maximise your chances a grad cert at Flinders might be an option, so that you qualify for their sub-category. Otherwise, another Bachelors may be necessary.
 
Ok thanks perplex....so frustrating. I've done 2 Bachelors, Grad Dip, 2 Masters...so friggin frustrating that because it is more than 10 years I have to do more study! Far out!
 
Ok thanks perplex....so frustrating. I've done 2 Bachelors, Grad Dip, 2 Masters...so friggin frustrating that because it is more than 10 years I have to do more study! Far out!

I'm sorry to hear that, it's a difficult position, indeed. I think the Flinders grad cert is your best shot at the moment, they take a preference for their own students, and the GAMSAT scores are not incredibly high from memory. The other option is doing a bachelors, sitting the gamsat and trying for USyd, or GEMSAS unis.
 
Yes I think you're right. Do you know if the grad cert can be done remotely?
You can do graduate certificates entirely online through Flinders, yes. Just an FYI RE: Flinders Kinetica, they don't consider any postgraduate qualifications when calculating GPA - it is all based off the most recent Bachelor's degree, and they use a different system to GEMSAS whereby a HD=85%+, D=75%+ etc, so just be aware of that when calculating your Flinders GPA, as it will most likely be lower than your GEMSAS GPA.
 
Yes I think you're right. Do you know if the grad cert can be done remotely?

Have you looked more into WSU and JMP? I've just had a look at JMP's requirements on your behalf, and I can't see any mention whatsoever about recency requirements. This would definitely be worth a shot as there are no sub-quotas for non-standard applicants, and, indeed, they tend to be over-represented in final cohorts, possibly due to the emphasis on interview performance.

Academic eligibility
Entry requirements

You might want to contact their admissions departments to get confirmation.

WSU and JMP would require you to sit UCAT next year.
 
It seems ludicrous to me that there is this rule in place. Perhaps it is a way for universities to make even more $.

I just took a quick read through the Gamsas guide :
- UWA has no 10-year rule
- UoW you can apply for a waiver "if they can demonstrate through other activities that they hold current high level academic skills"
- ANU & UQ require you to do/pass just one semester's worth of units to refresh the currency of your Bach/Masters
- The other schools (except UoM) require one year's worth of units.

You are obviously much senior to me in age but I still want to say this. Your accusation of this requirement being $ motivated is unfounded; for all they know you could well do this semester/year of study at some non-med uni and it wouldn't bring any $ to these med schools.

By the way after currency refresh most of the schools still go by the GPA of your Bachelor, with bonuses added for your Masters. Are you comfortable with your Bachelor's GPA?
 
I just took a quick read through the Gamsas guide :
- UWA has no 10-year rule
- UoW you can apply for a waiver "if they can demonstrate through other activities that they hold current high level academic skills"
- ANU & UQ require you to do/pass just one semester's worth of units to refresh the currency of your Bach/Masters
- The other schools (except UoM) require one year's worth of units.

You are obviously much senior to me in age but I still want to say this. Your accusation of this requirement being $ motivated is unfounded; for all they know you could well do this semester/year of study at some non-med uni and it wouldn't bring any $ to these med schools.

By the way after currency refresh most of the schools still go by the GPA of your Bachelor, with bonuses added for your Masters. Are you comfortable with your Bachelor's GPA?
Thanks A1...I wasnt accusing. Just odd that some uni's have this o or 10 year rule and others don't. Regarding my bachelor degree yes I did ok...Ive calculated it overall as 6.85. Not the highest but not the lowest Im sure either.
 
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