Offset that against no risk of getting Bonded it's a very good deal for NZ students.
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Griffith Griffith Medicine: Provisional Entry General Discussion
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Afaik there's no law forcing NZders or anyone to become Aus citizen. The BMP rules can't be changed on an assumption.
Edit: Oh I see what you meant. If they become Aus citizen by the end of the 2-year undergrad can Griffith give them BMP? That's a good question.
Btw NZ students are NOT advantaged at the other med schools, since without BMP their final ranks must be higher in the Unbonded range. Only at Griffith where it's the same cutoff but exempted from BMP.
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If NZers are treated as Aus PR (not need to be an Aus citizen), should the BMP rules apply to them? If not, it is sort of unfair because an Aus student (with a GPA above a NZ student), who is not in the bottom 28%, can be a BMP.
Yes, there is no problem in the other universities. Some NZers need to achive higher results to get unbonded, the others have all provisional intakes unbonded.
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I understand Aus non-citizen PRs don't get the HELP loan the same as NZ students. The underlying reason is if they decide to return to their countries the Aus gov doesn't have a way to get the loan paid back.
That said, I don't understand why Aus PR students can be given BMP but not NZ students. I guess a small difference is NZ students can come over but not necessarily have obtained a permanent visa.
EtA: Maybe Griffith/USC should deduct 0.05 from NZ applicants' ATAR?
HappyMongoose
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Based on the way things are going it looks like my 99.80 ATAR and 2770 UCAT are not going to get me into med at either Griffith or USC. Bit of a shame. Is my best bet for entry into medicine a graduate route with GAMSAT now? Or should I try something else like repeating UCAT?
Have a look into non-standard entry to keep all your options open while you’re deliberating. Pop it into the search bar here at MSO, we have heaps of info on it.
Edit: that said, if UCAT is just an exam style that doesn’t gel with you, that’s totally okay too and GAMSAT might be a better fit. 1/2 of all med spots in Aus are grad med so it’s a very viable option.
Just saw a USC top-up offer today - 99.85 2990 86th %ile
> Aus Med and Dent Undergraduate Offers 2025 Entry - Collated Data
A substantial UCAT drop from 3270, not sure if this applicant being Qld is a factor (shouldn't think so since USC doesn't have adjustments?).
Hey all, I am new to this forum! I have originally received an conditional offer from Griffith to attend the combined medical Sci + MD route. Recently, I have acquire the full offer, yet they are telling me to wait for the CoE. Is the quota full? What does the confirmation of enrollment mean? It has been 1 month and I still haven't gotten a reply. Can anyone explain it to me? Thanks a lot!
For context I am an international student.
For context I am an international student.
Hi welcome to MSO. Are you currently overseas or already in Australia?
Has Griffith asked you to pay any fee/deposit to secure the place offer?
The CoE is issued primarily as proof to support your student-visa application. I see this info from another uni
> Obtaining a Confirmation of Enrolment (COE)
What is a Confirmation of Enrolment (COE)?
A COE is an electronic document issued by a University to an international student who intends to enrol and study with that institution. An official Confirmation of Enrolment is the only accepted evidence of enrolment when applying for a student visa.You will only receive official Confirmation of Enrolment documentation after:
- You have formally accepted your offer to study from the University;
- You have paid your compulsory Overseas Student Health Cover (OSHC) for the duration of your intended visa; and
- You have paid your Tuition Fees for the first trimester of study.
So get in touch with Griffith about the progress of your offered enrolment. I don't think you need to fear the quota is already full; if it were Griffith should not have made you the place offer.
I was told not to pay the deposit by the administrator until I received the CoE.
This is what the email said,
" To receive a Confirmation of Place, the following steps must be completed:
Step 1: Confirm all details
However, when I asked the agent that helped me apply this is what I got
"please do NOT ask the applicant to make a deposit payment until they receive a Confirmation of Place email from us."
I am very confused lol how do I provide deposit payment receipt without getting a CoE?
This is what the email said,
" To receive a Confirmation of Place, the following steps must be completed:
Step 1: Confirm all details
- Provide the applicant with a copy of their Griffith Letter of Offer; ensure that the applicant reads and understands each section of the Letter of Offer and has the ability to provide relevant documentation to show that they meet any conditions outlined in their Letter of Offer (if applicable).
- If the applicant understands and agrees to all the terms and conditions of their offer, they must proceed to accept their offer by completing the Acceptance of Offer form attached to their Letter of Offer.
- Log in to your StudyLink Connect portal and select the 'accept offer and pay' button. You will then need to upload the applicant's completed and signed Acceptance of Offer form.
- Provide required documentation to meet conditions outlined in their Letter of Offer (if applicable).
However, when I asked the agent that helped me apply this is what I got
"please do NOT ask the applicant to make a deposit payment until they receive a Confirmation of Place email from us."
I am very confused lol how do I provide deposit payment receipt without getting a CoE?
There may be a difference between Confirmation of Place and Confirmation of Enrolment CoE that's causing the confusion.
Have you completed this part^ with the uploading of a signed Acceptance of Offer form?
If you have then contact Griffith asking them for the Confirmation of Place (which will outline how to secure a place in the program, including deposit payment instructions). If you have not it could result in you being omitted.
I have not completed the StudyLink Connect portal. According to my agent, the study link still shows that I am in conditional offer, even though I have turned in my acceptance offer form and met the condition that the offer stated. Apparently the quota is full? So once theres is a spot I can get a full offer. Weird? so competitive lol.
Thanks alot for the reply though, appreciate it!
Thanks alot for the reply though, appreciate it!
Let's key in on this^.
1. Was your conditional offer same as the Griffith Letter of Offer in the Step 1 you copied/pasted above?
2. If so, you have turned in the Acceptance of Offer form - 1st part of Step 2.
3. But you have not completed the StudyLink Connect portal - 2nd part of Step 2.
Griffith's explanation is itself confusing here. The StudyLink Connect mentions the "Accept Offer and Pay" button, yet in the line below Step 3 Griffith says after you complete all this a Confirmation of Place will be issued, which will outline how to ... including deposit payment instructions.
I suggest you try to complete the StudyLink Connect anyway but without attaching a Deposit receipt. Then contact Griffith request the Confirmation of Place, tell them you need it for the instructions how to pay the Deposit.
EtA: Possibly it may go like this - You complete the Accept & Pay step first, which indicates your commitment to pay the Deposit. Then Griffith issues the CoP which gives you the banking details to make the payment afterwards.
Yes it is possible.
How it works is applicants are selected on ATAR first. If there are not enough spots for all the 99.90s the ones with higher UCAT get selected first (until all spots are filled). If there are enough spots all the 99.90s will get one even with no UCAT.
Based on last year 99.90 with no/poor UCAT should get a USC/Griffith spot.
I know I can't get a definitive answer for this, but can we expect this to remain the same for this year as well - maybe based on how the cutoffs have changed in previous years?
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A1 replies: In the last 5 years Griffith Nathan/GC has crept up from 99.80 to 99.85 to 99.90, USC from 99.65 to 99.85 (+ high UCAT).
I think they have hit the ceiling, no way Nathan/GC is going to require 99.95. So 99.90 with no UCAT should get USC.
Would 99.90 get Griffith do you think?
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A1 replies: I don't remember what the UCAT cutoff last year was for the Nathan/GC 99.90s, probably around 85-90%ile.
We were talking above about no or poor UCAT, as such it's unlikely 99.90 would get Griffith Nathan/GC.
By the way USC is half Griffith since after the USC undergrad they will join the Griffith MD cohort.
ghostboxcarton
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was going to ask if a 99.70 with no ucat had a chance but looking at this forum I seem pretty cooked 
hopefully things work out for us all 
hopefully things work out for us all