Discussion in 'Interviews' started by A1, Sep 18, 2018.
Definitely worth calling Mr Boothey since your scores are clearly above the announced cutoffs.
Thanks A1! I guess they aren't open today, so I'll call on Monday. Where should I csay I got the announced cutoffs from? I assume they got told to everyone who got an interview invite?
You shouldn't need to justify it given that they've shared this information in a public (enough) format by emailing the stats to the interview invitees. Users on here often use the "a friend who received an interview...." line when referring to MSO user(s) so you can go with that if you need to
Mr Boothey and or Zara (I think it is)?
A fellow NSW friend of mine received a UNSW invite yesterday with a combo of 98.25 (40 IB) and averaged UMAT score of 67.
They’d like to know if they really stand a chance at the interview or not given that more people have much higher ATARs.
UMAT 67 should make up a bit for the low ATAR. They will need a really good interview score to get an offer though so prepare well for it.
Hi A1, what chances would there be for a place offer at UNSW with an interview invite for 99.2 and 188 in UMAT?
I'd say around 25-30% chance. Good luck with your interview.
I got a UNSW invites shows that we have now set the cut-off scores (ATAR 98.2; UMAT 60) required to gain a place. UMAT 60 means S1 = 60?
I believe 60 refers to the average of the three sections, i.e. (S1+S2+S3)/3 = 60 or more.
You’re very attuned to the UNSW scores here..
What chance would 99.95 and 180 have then??
Are you able to guesstimate our known pre-interview ranks with the scores on the collated page??
I'd say around 40-50% chance.
My guesstimate algorithm is quite simple. A high combo of say 99.9/99th%ile would have 80-90% chance, the lowest combo given an invite (this year's seems to be 99.3/93rd%ile or equivalent variations) 10-20% chance. Then interpolate for the scores in between.
Would 98.3 and 197 put me in that 10-20% category?
Unfortunately yes, due to your relatively low ATAR. A rule of thumb is with one component near the low end you need the other two near top to combine to an overall score in the top third (for the 1 in 3 offer). The 10-20% chance is what the algorithm gives in general, you can give yourself higher if you are confident you will do well in the interview. Good luck.
Awesome. Thanks. I guess there's nothing left to do but try my very best, hey
For interstate, their website states that they’ll be out on the 15th
Just an update A1, I called up Mr Boothey and he said that the 'cut-off scores' do not mean very much for whether you are eligible for an interview or not. I'm guessing that they consider other things when deciding on an interview invitation?
They don't consider anything other than ATAR+UMAT for interview invites. A person posted they got an invite with IB40 (~98.30) and 180 UMAT. Check with them whether they are eligible for EAS. If no EAS I suggest you ask Mr Boothey again why your higher score doesn't get one.
Hi A1, with your algorithm – someone with a 99.95/100%ile would have 80-90% chance for an offer, that means for them to not receive the offer, they would have to fall within the bottom 10-20% of the interviewed cohort. I.e. If you are at the top of 2 components, but at the very bottom of the third component – you are unlikely to receive an offer. Please do correct me if I'm wrong.
However, wouldn't that apply for the ATAR/UMAT too, where, say you are ranked near the top for your ATAR but ranked at the very bottom for your UMAT amongst all interviewees (just enough to receive an interview) – no matter how well you perform in the interview, you are still at the very bottom of the UMAT component (bottom 10-20%), and so you would still not receive an offer either way even with the other two components near the top (according to the algorithm above)?
In a video 3 years ago Mr Boothey said a candidate got in with 96.9 / 100th%ile and he commented obviously with a very very good interview. This sort of illustrates two near tops plus a near bottom can combine to a score in the top third final ranking. If it's your UMAT component that's in the bottom 10-20% the same concept applies i.e. you need a near top ATAR plus a very very good interview. The 10-20% chance indicates the likelihood of a random person achieving that good-enough interview score, not to do with the 10-20% bottom UMAT. Hope that makes sense.
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