Non-standard Medicine Entry

[Crow]

Hi Everyone! I'm new here. But what is a good degree to study at university if one was thinking of applying as a non standard? I am thinking of studying science, health science or maybe psychology at monash. Does it matter what you study as a non standard applicant? I want to be able to maintain a high gpa.

Can anyone tell me an outline of how they applied/made it as a non standard applicant?

Choosing An Undergraduate Degree Good advice in this thread. The bottom line should be to select your degree based on the career path you’d like to follow if you don’t get into medicine.

 

[hopeful12345]

Hi all,
Does anyone know if there are any restrictions on applying to post-grad med when already in undergrad med? I have gotten an offer to study undergrad medicine, however would prefer to study at a post-grad uni (due to location). Obviously there is no grantee that I will get a post grad offer and don't want to give up my current offer if so. Therefore, , if I accept my undergrad offer but also take GAMSAT this year and apply for post-grad next year, that would be allowed? I know I would be starting again if I get into post-grad but I would still graduate the same year anyway due to it being a 4 year degree.

 

[ucatboy]

Hi all,
Does anyone know if there are any restrictions on applying to post-grad med when already in undergrad med? I have gotten an offer to study undergrad medicine, however would prefer to study at a post-grad uni (due to location). Obviously there is no grantee that I will get a post grad offer and don't want to give up my current offer if so. Therefore, , if I accept my undergrad offer but also take GAMSAT this year and apply for post-grad next year, that would be allowed? I know I would be starting again if I get into post-grad but I would still graduate the same year anyway due to it being a 4 year degree.

I believe you need a completed undergraduate degree to study post-graduate medicine, hence the name. That makes your plan impossible unless you plan on completing your current undergraduate medical degree then starting another post-grad one (bruh).

 

[hopeful12345]

I believe you need a completed undergraduate degree to study post-graduate medicine, hence the name. That makes your plan impossible unless you plan on completing your current undergraduate medical degree then starting another post-grad one (bruh).

I already have a completed undergraduate degree finished a few years ago.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

I already have a completed undergraduate degree finished a few years ago.

The vast majority of undergrad unis don’t accept those via non-standard who’ve started an Australian Med degree elsewhere (but JMP does so it’s not a blanket thing). You might have to look at the graduate entry Uni/s you’re specifically hopeful for and see what their policies are.

 

[hopeful12345]

The vast majority of undergrad unis don’t accept those via non-standard who’ve started an Australian Med degree elsewhere (but JMP does so it’s not a blanket thing). You might have to look at the graduate entry Uni/s you’re specifically hopeful for and see what their policies are.

I have received an offer for JMP, however I would rather study at Griffith Uni post-grad. I can't find anything about Griffith excluding students who have previously been admitted to study med. So I was wanting to do JMP but also apply for Griffith Post-grad entry for next year which would mean I can fall back on already having JMP if not sucessful.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

I have received an offer for JMP, however I would rather study at Griffith Uni post-grad. I can't find anything about Griffith excluding students who have previously been admitted to study med. So I was wanting to do JMP but also apply for Griffith Post-grad entry for next year which would mean I can fall back on already having JMP if not sucessful.

You probably already saw this but the Griffith admission guide says undergrad degree can be in any field of study, so I reckon you’re good to go but I’d double check (and get it in writing).

 

[Eleanor Rigby]

I do Engineering, and keep in mind this question is subjective - my take. Relative to your HSC, you'll find that a 6.5+ GPA is easier. This is not to say it's easy. The amount of content you'll look at in a term is arguably lower than the HSC. Where you won't find it easy is the time sacrifice you have to make, whether that's in terms of social life, personal time, extracurricular commitments, work or other things. Some people can juggle everything but you're most likely not the exception, and you'll find that your mental wellbeing may suffer for it.

Hello, I'm wondering what strand of Engineering you are studying for & has it helped you indirectly I mean with the UCAT questions especially the QR ones?

 

[Eleanor Rigby]

Do admission schools e.g. WSU/CSU JPM, UNSW, UON/UNE JMP, consider your performance as in WAM converted to GPA for the year you are applying for or your undergrad degree so far? I can't remember where I've seen this question and answer before but could someone help jog my memory.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Do admission schools e.g. WSU/CSU JPM, UNSW, UON/UNE JMP, consider your performance as in WAM converted to GPA for the year you are applying for or your undergrad degree so far? I can't remember where I've seen this question and answer before but could someone help jog my memory.

All units from your current degree are used in the GPA calculation (unless you have any units that are ungraded passes).

 

[Eleanor Rigby]

That 50:50 page has existed and been used up to last year.

This year we see this new page > Selection For Interview | Medicine - UNSW Sydney

"Applicants who have completed an equivalent of 0.75 FTE (full time equivalent) or more tertiary study, will be assessed for admission to medicine on either their tertiary study results OR their ATAR (or equivalent)".

Thank you. I found the relevant information. Apologies.

 

[ThunderDragon]

For applicants who have completed an equivalent of 0.75 FTE (full time equivalent) or more of tertiary study in a single degree, will be assessed for admission to medicine on either their tertiary study results OR their ATAR (or equivalent). The following minimum criteria apply:
- Secondary school qualification component must reach 96.00 ATAR of equivalent AND
- Tertiary study component must reach WAM 70 or equivalent
Once the applicant has met the minimum requirement, the "BEST OF" algorithm would apply and the qualification with a higher selection rank would be used as a final selection rank for medicine admissions purposes.

I found this on the UNSW Medicine Website for Non-Standard Entry and from what I can decipher, does that mean even if I get a perfect or close to perfect WAM in my first year of undergraduate study but didn't get a 96 atar, I'm ineligible for entry into UNSW Medicine? If that's the case, would SCATS allow for people with atars lower than 96 to have the chance to get in? Thanks

 

[A1]

from what I can decipher, does that mean even if I get a perfect or close to perfect WAM in my first year of undergraduate study but didn't get a 96 atar, I'm ineligible for entry into UNSW Medicine?

See this post > UNSW General Entry Questions and Discussion

They got a UNSW interview despite old ATAR 95. Either UNSW overlooks the 96 + WAM 70 criteria, or it's meant to be OR between the two.

 

[ThunderDragon]

See this post > UNSW General Entry Questions and Discussion

They got a UNSW interview despite old ATAR 95. Either UNSW overlooks the 96 + WAM 70 criteria, or it's meant to be OR between the two.

I called a guy from UNSW who said you need both 96+ ATAR and 70+ WAM although he wasn't 100% sure

 

[Rei]

By reading the UNSW page, i would assume it is that...

EDIT: Could it be that they were considered in for a mature entry of sorts?

 

[ashh]

Hello! I just want to confirm something. Do all undergrad NSW Med unis (UNSW, WSU, UoN/UNE) use the “best of” your ATAR and GPA? I just wanted to know because I achieved a high ATAR and I don’t want my uni marks to, I guess, “dilute” my ATAR if I apply as a non-standard applicant. Thank you!!

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hello! I just want to confirm something. Do all undergrad NSW Med unis (UNSW, WSU, UoN/UNE) use the “best of” your ATAR and GPA? I just wanted to know because I achieved a high ATAR and I don’t want my uni marks to, I guess, “dilute” my ATAR if I apply as a non-standard applicant. Thank you!!

No, not after a certain point/indefinitely like UNSW seem to. JMP will use GPA after .75 FTE, and WSU use ‘best of’ up until the point you graduate, then it’s GPA only. But both are hurdle and JMP in particular is pretty generous with requirements.

 

[Penny Lane]

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No, not after a certain point/indefinitely like UNSW seem to. JMP will use GPA after .75 FTE, and WSU use ‘best of’ up until the point you graduate, then it’s GPA only. But both are hurdle and JMP in particular is pretty generous with requirements.

Hey sorry to jump in but what do you mean by “JMP being pretty generous with requirements”?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

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Hey sorry to jump in but what do you mean by “JMP being pretty generous with requirements”?

Their hurdle GPA requirements.

 

[occhiolisms]

Hi, I'm a 2020 high school graduate and I'm planning on either starting a Psych degree at USyd this year, or moving out and working full time (to start uni in 2022.) I would be studying for the UCAT simultaneously in both scenarios. In my search for a middle ground, I heard from some people that the admission requirements for UWS and JMP medicine are lower if you begin an undergraduate degree at UoN/UWS, and then apply through the non-standard pathway as opposed to applying via the NS pathway from a different uni. Would appreciate any extra info or advice regarding this. Thanks in advance.