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Otago HSFY chat - archive

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Just got my HSFY/Course approval information bundle - can anyone tell me why I have to rank the professional courses in order of preference? The form states that "This is to assist with the Course Approval process only", but how does knowing my preferred professional course help at all?
 
During course approval you have to get your form signed off by an advisor from health sciences admissions (which means a massive waiting time by the way if you go first thing in the morning and have to queue behind about 500 other HSFYers), and they'll look at your preferences and discuss them with you. It's pretty pointless - they saw that I had "medicine - 1" (and nothing else listed) and asked "are you aware that medicine is very competitive and it may pay to have a backup?". That was about it.

It also helps them get a rough idea of how many people are interested in each course.

At the same time, to anyone really interested in pharmacy - if you sign up for preferential entry I understand this can give you an advantage.
 
Cool, as long as there's no disadvantage on my applications for the 2/3/4/5 preferred courses; I'm happy.

Another couple of things... Do you remember the cost involved with getting a first aid certificate? I understand that it's obtainable through HSFY but I don't see any cost details or mention of it in the HSFY information manual (other than it is required for applications into certain 2nd year courses). Also - am I right in assuming we pick our 8th optional paper at course approval?
 
Cool, as long as there's no disadvantage on my applications for the 2/3/4/5 preferred courses; I'm happy.

Another couple of things... Do you remember the cost involved with getting a first aid certificate? I understand that it's obtainable through HSFY but I don't see any cost details or mention of it in the HSFY information manual (other than it is required for applications into certain 2nd year courses). Also - am I right in assuming we pick our 8th optional paper at course approval?

It's up to you where you get your first aid certificate from. Lots of halls do weekend courses at a reduced price but I did the St John Workplace one in the holidays and it cost me over $200 :S

You can sort your eighth paper now or just leave it till the end of semester one and add it in then :) I added mine at the end of sem1 and I just had to pick up the form they print out and then pop it in to the health science admissions place and they sorted it all out for me then.
 
Yo guys, glad to know i'm not the only one freaking out about this year.
Do any of you's know how long a first aid cert lasts? so its 'expiry date' pretty much.
 
Hi again,
I know it's a wee bit early to be thinking of second semester but any ideas on what the best (i.e. easiest) papers to take are?
Also regarding umat, i've been reading several threads and understand that there's a 45/45/10 ratio but is there a minimum mark for each section that one must get to be eligible for med?
cheers
 
Hi again,
I know it's a wee bit early to be thinking of second semester but any ideas on what the best (i.e. easiest) papers to take are?
Also regarding umat, i've been reading several threads and understand that there's a 45/45/10 ratio but is there a minimum mark for each section that one must get to be eligible for med?
cheers

Maori!! Haha I know its the typical paper that everyone takes to get a good mark but there is definitely a reason for this!! It's only 2 lectures a week (yy). You have two online tests which are 10% each and they are 40 mcq and short (one word) answers. You get an hour to do it so more than enough time to look every answer up in the textbook and your notes. The two essays were super easy and the final was a total joke. It was 20mcqs some of which i found a wee bit tricky. Then 2 short answer questions which came directly off the worksheets you do during the year and you can get help and answers from the tutors for :) AND they give you like eight of the questions and you get to pick your favourite 2! Then there was a short essay which they give you the vague topics for in advance.
So yea basically I put in about 2 days work in total studying (minus essay writing) and got 98. And it was actually really interesting as a bonus! I found the content quite stimulating as in it gave you a really good perspective on all the Treaty grievance history and it was nice to hear it from a Maori perspective. Most people I know were pleasantly surprised in that they only took it for the easy marks but actually quite enjoyed it :) Does help if you have good essay writing skills though.

And for UMAT I'm pretty sure there's no minimum.
 
Lol, I had already kinda made up my mind about choosing Maori as my optional paper but after that review I'm definitely taking it. :P
 
I did economics as my 8th paper and really enjoyed it. Got 98% with very little effort (though admittedly more than most of the Maori students), and learnt a lot in the process. The lecturer was really cool, and as a paper it played well to my strengths in mathematics (with a hint of the humanities).

The mark is determined as:

25% Mid-Semester Exam (15 mcqs, 10 marks short answer)
75% Final Exam (50 mcqs, 25 marks short answer)

OR

100% Final Exam

(whichever of the two gives you the highest overall mark)

I'd definitely recommend it as an alternative to Maori, particularly if you think you'd find it more interesting than the Maori paper.


P.S. This has already been discussed in the "All HSFYers Listen Up!" thread - so maybe have a search of that if you want more info.
 
One thing to note in Maori is that it's mostly internal - 50/60%.

I'm an exam person, so I probably don't have the best habits for it - personally exams are more competitive, it felt difficult to "get ahead" in Maori... I still got an A+, but looking at the habits of the eco students I think I would have performed just as well in that paper.

Maori is definitely interesting, but you should be good at writing essays - that's really the only part in which anybody loses marks.
 
As an aside, I would definitely NOT take the psyc paper.
I took it mostly because I wanted to be different to all the people taking Maori, and thinking that it may have some relevance to the professional courses (which it possibly does).
However, there were 3 lectures a week, a lab every week and lots of the lectures were really boring. The exams are 100% MCQ, and are really hard and very vague, often based on a tiny, irrelevant to psychology section in the readings which are themselves, massive. Just as an example, we had a question about what psychologist's work was Snow White based on - sounds more like a pub quiz.
However, they repeat questions like crazy and although you don't have access to the past exams, you can look at the past midsemesters, one section of which was completely copied for the final, and we had answers to it.
Theres something like 40% of the overall mark from labs, with 22% of that 40% being from the lab reports (marked very harshly, with discrepancies between tutors marks).
 
wow... the thread 'all otago HSFYers, listen up!!' is ridiculously long... but I might have a slow read over it the next few days :) thanks
 
Hi guys, kinda wondering how exams work for HSFY. Are there any assignments/essay writing in any of the 7 compulsory papers? Or is it all just tests with multi choice/shortanswer style? Thanks
 
No assignments. Assessment is:

HUBS191/192 - 72% final exam (60 mcqs, 30 marks short answer, 30 marks extended answer), 2 x terms tests worth 5% each (and each with 25 mcqs), 6% from lab tests (mcq), 12% from online tests (mcq, occasional fill-in-the-blank).
CELS191 - 60% final exam (25 mcqs, 50-60 marks short answer), 20% final exam (10 mcqs, 15-20 marks short answer), 20% online tests
CHEM191 - 70% final exam (40 mcqs, 60 marks short answer), 15% mid-semester exam (30 mcqs), 15% lab tests (short answer)
PHSI191 - 88% from final + mid-semester exam (both 100% mcq), 6% for online tests, 6% for lab attendance
BIOC192 - 70% final exam (100 marks short answer), 20% mid-semester exam (50 mcq), 10% online tests
HEAL192 - 60% final exam (format for last 2 years was ~20-30 marks mcq, ~100-120 marks short answer, ~15 marks for one extended answer question), 2 x terms tests worth 15% each (both mcq), 10% tutorial tests (mcq)
 
Yay no assignments :)
Far out... looks complicated though...
So excited for this year though!
Do you think I should buy a laptop for hsfy? I'm staying at home this year so I didn't see a need for a laptop and thought I would be better off if I didn't have the temptation to go fb stalking every two minutes, but some people are saying it's real helpful...
 
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