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[smile]

Hey guys, I have a question here!! I've just finished HUBS GLM1 today, and I was wondering if those contents can be examinable or not.
The lecturer said the GLM1 can be examinable for the HUBS 1st term test, but do we have to know all those contents in the two extra files(Cells and Tissues Powerpoint, Body Water and Osmosis Powerpoint) of powerpoint slides which were given to us via blackboard related to GLM1 test? Those extra files include new materials we haven't learnt during the lectures, so I'm pretty keen to know how previous year of HUBS term tests were. Thank you

Last year I don't think we got any GLM questions in any terms tests or finals. Personally I wouldn't really make learning that a priority. As long as you're sweet with all the lecture content you should be perfectly fine but there is always a chance they might put a GLM question in so if you have extra time once you've studied lecture stuff there wouldn't be any harm in having a flick over the GLM stuff just to refresh your memory.

 

[aaa24]

Anyone else getting annoyed with contradictions between the subjects?
Im looking at you Cells and Hubs.

 

[Ben]

Anyone else getting annoyed with contradictions between the subjects?
Im looking at you Cells and Hubs.

+1 -_-

 

[papermoth]

Hubs and Cels need to meet up and decide, once and for all, if ribosomes are organelles.

 

[Cathay]

HUBS also needs an internal meeting to decide whether there is an actual cavity in living joints...

HUBS Lecture 10: "In a living joint there is no cavity, only potential for cavity." - Dr H.B.
HUBS Lecture 11: "The cavity could be fluid-filled like the wrist, or it could just be a potential cavity, depending on joint alignment." - Dr L.P-B

 

[aaa24]

Oh and my favorite; is collagen a Proteoglycan or a Glycoprotein. Hubs and Cells seem to have differing opinions, I'm glad im not the only one who has noticed.

 

[Cathay]

Speaking of proteoglycans,

HUBS: Proteoglycans are long chain carbohydrates with polypeptides attached (ie carbohydrate with proteins on it)
CELS: Proteoglycans are extensively-glycosylated proteins (ie protein with a lot of carbohydrates on it)

Am I just not understanding this right, or is there conflict between the two definitions?

 

[aaa24]

To be honest, apart from just briefly talking about proteoglycan and glycoproteins they have hardly talked about the structure of these 2 molecules. So could have just been a slip of the tongue because there is a clear contradiction between the 2 definitions you give. Personally I think they might go over these things later in more specialized lectures, right now they are just saying them so we have a way of classifying the different biological molecules.

 

[aaa24]

Oh and i swear that in hubs they told us not to call supination and pronation a rotation. But apparently it is now.

 

[Screen Name]

Oh and my favorite; is collagen a Proteoglycan or a Glycoprotein. Hubs and Cells seem to have differing opinions, I'm glad im not the only one who has noticed.

There are several different kinds of collagen, which I assume one would learn in more detail depending on their course of study

Speaking of proteoglycans,

HUBS: Proteoglycans are long chain carbohydrates with polypeptides attached (ie carbohydrate with proteins on it)
CELS: Proteoglycans are extensively-glycosylated proteins (ie protein with a lot of carbohydrates on it)

Am I just not understanding this right, or is there conflict between the two definitions?

Proteoglycans are proteins with a polysacharide chain attached to it
Glyco proteins are proteins with an oligosacharide (3-10 monomers) chain attached to it

Source, wikipedia

 

[Cathay]

A brief consultation with Campbell Biology as well as the Patton & Thibodeau solved the issue - proteoglycans are heavily glycosylated proteins (ie proteins with carbohydrates on it), BUT proteoglycan complexes are many proteoglycans attached to a polysaccharide backbone.

 

[mango101]

What are all the different things that make up your final score at the end of the HSFY and determines how you gain a place at Med School (eg. what % of UMAT etc)?
Thanks in advance

 

[skyglow1]

Has been answered extensively. Please use the search function.

 

[Cathay]

What are all the different things that make up your final score at the end of the HSFY and determines how you gain a place at Med School (eg. what % of UMAT etc)?
Thanks in advance

Skyglow is right, this has been done to death, please use the search function. Note that it may help to read the official guidelines on the Otago Uni website - it will actualy answer your question, there is another thread on MSO that gives you an idea of roughly what the successful candidates in the past got, but that's not exactly what you're asking there...

Also, don't set an aim - you'll get into the "oh well I can afford to lose this mark" mentality and lose more than you can afford to. You will need to be the very best that you can be in order to stand a chance at getting into med.

 

[greenglacier]

And finally, I'd suggest reading the Otago article on this website: https://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/showthread.php?4804-Otago-Medical-School

 

[aaa24]

Offtopic: Im interested, has anyone done the UMAT from last year? If so, how did you go, whats it like etc?

 

[Cathay]

Offtopic: Im interested, has anyone done the UMAT from last year? If so, how did you go, whats it like etc?

That's not offtopic at all, lol...

I've done it, it was mighty cold in the Edgar Centre that morning (although to be fair, no colder than my house on Wednesday morning when it was 0 degrees outside - I guess it's just Dunedin)... Section 1 was reasonably similar to those ICAS Science Competitions; Section 2 was a bit meh, dealing with all the human emotions (I hear that reading Harry Potter is good preparation?), occasionally bewildering and pretty tight on time; Section 3 was like those IQ tests, with all the diagrams that every now and then I simply fail to comprehend - I didn't even finish Section 3 -__-. Having had coffee and really needing the toilet during the test didn't help, either.

As for how I went, well as it turns out not, too badly, sections: 73, 56, 67 (I read all the Harry Potter books, albeit a very long time ago, which is reflected in the rusty Section 2 score ), and for those who for some reason want to know other people's percentile ranking (as opposed to their section scores), 98.

For preparation, I pretty much only did the first practice test (strictly timed, and in one go), and didn't even do all of the second one properly (got called away half way through S3) - in retrospect I really didn't prepare very well at all, and pretty much just fluked it, so I'm afraid I won't be able to offer useful advise on UMAT preparation, lol.

 

[mango101]

Are you re-taking the UMAT this year or is 98 percentile usually good enough to get into med?

 

[greenglacier]

is 98 percentile usually good enough to get into med?

98th percentile is most certainly enough to get into med. In fact, it's enough to get into med with some relatively mediocre HSFY marks.

It's quite possible to get into med with anything higher than 50th percentile.

 

[mango101]

Okay, thanks for the help Section 3 seems like it could be quite hard so thats the part I am really not looking forward to