Otago HSFY chat - archive

[skyglow1]

It is honestly nothing to worry about. I know people who were kinda hungover on day of the test and they passed. Basically if you have passed level one NCEA english and can read Harry Potter properly then you're all good.

BTW, just to add on to my previous question. For certain slides e.g. Lecture 7, HUBS Bone Tisse: Bone Remodelling,theres a slide on it but has very little info on it (only says maintains normal mature bone) and lecturer did not mention too much about it, yet on essential readings page in the text book theres a large but informative paragraph on it. What do i do? Do i need to learn it properly from the textbook or just memorise the brief sentence on the slide?

This kind of thing appears in many of the slides and it just gets really confusing sometimes...

The lecturer didn't mention much about it? Really?

 

[OtagoLol]

The lecturer didn't mention much about it? Really?

Think il check podcast tomorrow to make sure. But i think she only gave a brief description of it, like osteoclasts breakdown the ECM back to bloodstream whil osteoblasts build etc...Iv learnt it fully from the textbook though.

But i dont just mean this one specific example. I mean it occurs quite a few times where they only give a few details on slide/talk..are we meant to learn more from TB using the 'essential' readings or just memorise the brief bits? Like if remodelling was real important, why isnt there more info on slides..

 

[Cathay]

She said the osteoclasts break down the ECM and the osteoblasts then move into the cavity formed by the osteoclasts, and start rebuilding the bone by forming ECM around themselves - some osteoblasts get trapped by the ECM they produce and 'mature' to become osteocytes, which are then mainly responsible for communications to call for osteoblasts when needed, and I think that's reasonably elaborate. Not all of the lecturers just read out the slides (*cough* like Philip Kelly *cough*), in fact, both Hallie and Louise do elaborate and talk about things, and have very little on the actual slides - to the point where I overheard, after the 8am HUBS today, someone saying they're going to the HUBS lecture again at 5pm just to catch the verbal details they missed. One key thing to note is that some lecturers simply use the slides as presentation tools, where they have images and brief points they elaborate on in the lecture, while others (eg chem) put everything they want you to learn onto the slides, so use discretion when it comes to these things - if it looks under-detailed, it probably is, in which case you should refer to the verbal content and/or the textbook to be on the safe side.

On a side note, the lecturer put 6 questions on the first slide for us to think about today, are these the "pre-released questions" discussed by past health sci's, or are the "pre-released questions" something entirely different?

 

[aaa24]

Thats what podcasts are for

 

[ZL9685]

Castle 2 got locked out for the first little bit of the lecture, so it seems I missed these "questions"

 

[aaa24]

They hopefully will be up on the slides at 6pm

 

[kaixian0011]

Wondering.
Do we need to know the hot topic stuff in chem?
Biochem stuff come up in chemistry lectures?
Because I don't see the point of this.
and yes Im typing it right now, while listening to it. Im lost.

 

[greenglacier]

Wondering.
Do we need to know the hot topic stuff in chem?

Yes.


On the topic of pre-released questions, that refers to questions in the test that are given out before the test. Only time it has happened is for the HEAL192 final exam.

 

[smile]

If you have a wee look at the past chemistry exam papers they will give you a pretty good idea of the level of detail that you will need to know for the chem hot topic lectures. You'll get a few MCQ's on them in the terms test and in the final exam the last MCQ's (about 15ish) will be on hot topic lectures. I'm not sure that they reasess the hot topic lectures from before the terms test in the final though - from memory I think they weren't included in the final exam but it would pay to check

Hope everyone's study is all on track for Saturday!

 

[aaa24]

How did everyone go! Personally i found it pretty easy, but a few questions were tricky just because of the ambiguous language they used.

When do marks come out anyway?

 

[greenglacier]

When do marks come out anyway?

Probably in a couple of weeks. Glad you found it alright.

 

[AmyT]

Did anyone else get confused with question 3 about proteoglycans, chondroitin sulfate and collagen?

 

[aaa24]

Each color had a different order of questions, but i know the question you are talking about. I just crossed out all the blatantly wrong answers which left me with collagen gives ecm strength, 'strength' is a crappy word to use but it makes sense if you think of tensile strength.

 

[l0lita]

Yeah i put down the same answer, i agree that it was pretty easy but that the ambiguous language was off putting for a couple of questions. Can't wait for results to come out!

 

[Cathay]

Agreed, the test wasn't hard, but some of the ambiguous language was a pain - it annoys me that they teach us the technicalities in a rigorous manner and then phrase their tests so loosely, although perhaps I'm just bitter that I probably overthought and lost the question on determining the true-false of 3 statements involving antagonists.

 

[aaa24]

Agreed, the test wasn't hard, but some of the ambiguous language was a pain - it annoys me that they teach us the technicalities in a rigorous manner and then phrase their tests so loosely, although perhaps I'm just bitter that I probably overthought and lost the question on determining the true-false of 3 statements involving antagonists.

Story of my life. Mind if i ask what you think you over thought, i think i may have made the same mistake haha.

 

[greenglacier]

I'm just bitter that I probably overthought and lost the question on determining the true-false of 3 statements involving antagonists.

That question was in the test in my year. I got it wrong

Don't worry about it, it'll look so insignificant come exam time.

 

[Cathay]

Story of my life. Mind if i ask what you think you over thought, i think i may have made the same mistake haha.

I don't remember what the second statement was, but I do recall ruling it as being wrong nearly right away. Statement 1 mentions neutralisers opposing the agonist, which, depending on how we look at things, is a bit ambiguous - it's opposing the unwanted movement arising from some other muscle's actions, whether or not that muscle can be said to be an "agonist" was beyond me... Statement 3 was that Quadriceps femoris and Hamstrings are "antagonists to each other", which, if anything, is a really bad way of using the term 'antagonist' (a muscle that opposes the agonist in an effort to control a movement), so I treated it as being bollocks and chose "1 only" (because there wasn't a "none of the above" option) - but then everyone that spoke to me about the test told me that statement 3 is correct, and most tried to tell me that statement 1 is not - though there was no "3 only" so I wonder what statement 2 was that appealed to them but not me.

To be perfectly honest, this question (and most of this test) is a 'lesser of the two evils' exercise, where there is no flawless answer, which I find to be quite disappointing.

 

[aaa24]

Yeah it does suck when you put in the work and your not rewarded for it completely. Well look on the bright side, say you did get 24/25, you only lost something like .3%. I know every percent matters in heath sci but lets be realistic that is not really a problem.

 

[skyglow1]

Have fun with the vague questions. If you thought HUBS was bad wait till you see HEAL MCQs!!! Basically have to get into the mind of whoever wrote the question and try and figure out what they want you to pick or write down in your answer, rather than what is the 'right' answer.