Otago HSFY chat - archive

[Cathay]

I've just found that GLM2, released 3 days before the test and said not to be covered in the terms test, contained the very same phrases as the question I got wrong in Section 6. While Statement 3 still seems wrong, Statement 2: an Antagonist must relax to allow a joint movement to occur (which I disregarded because they are used at the end of a movement when movement still occurs even though the antagonist is not relaxed), is taken right out of GLM2, and Statement 1 is indirectly confirmed as true.

Moral of the story: GLM 2 not being specifically examined doesn't mean they can't cover something on the musculoskeletal system (which is examined) from the GLM.

 

[aaa24]

I think it may have been a slip of the tongue on the lecturers behalf if they did say that the antagonist is still contracted when the agonist is contracting.

 

[SKpol]

Hi guys~
sorry to interrupt in the HUBS discussion... but i just heard that afther finishing HSFY you can apply for auckland uni and austrailian universities not just Otago uni MB ChB. is this true?

 

[greenglacier]

You can't apply for Auckland without first completing their OLY1.

You can apply for some of the Australian universities as a non-standard applicant - it has been done before.

 

[SKpol]

Really? So, after HSFY there is a possiblity of getting into an austrailian Uni, but not auckland... well.. thats quite odd.. Austrailian uni accepts NZ students, but NZ (auckland) uni doesnt... haha oh well....
Then, what do you think are the possiblity of getting into a austrailian uni insted of Otago 2nd year? much lower i guess??

 

[greenglacier]

Auckland will let you apply, but only after you have done their OLY1 - they just won't let you apply on the basis of Otago HSFY (just like Otago won't let you apply for med on the basis of Auckland OLY1). It's a matter of fairness and consistency.

I wouldn't rate the chances of getting into an Australian uni that low - remember that the people who go down this pathway have already been rejected by Otago. The Australian unis will potentially look at your school results as well as first year results (unlike Otago), will potentially put greater emphasis on UMAT, and will have an interview (unlike Otago). In addition, the GPA conversion for NZ to Australia is really favourable to NZers. Lots of factors make it possible to get accepted for an Australian uni but not Otago (and vice versa). The biggest barriers to studying in Australia are the practical ones - money, living in another country, having to start med at year 1 rather than year 2, etc...

 

[Cathay]

EDIT: Nevermind, GG beat me to replying.

 

[SKpol]

Thank you for that~ but how is GPA conversion from NZ to AUstrailia more favourable? i thought it would be less favourable...
also, i thought Otago Uni did do interviews after HSFY into 2ndyear MBChB

 

[Cathay]

Thank you for that~ but how is GPA conversion from NZ to AUstrailia more favourable? i thought it would be less favourable...
also, i thought Otago Uni did do interviews after HSFY into 2ndyear MBChB

If I recall correctly, GPA in NZ goes up to 9, but in Australia it only goes up to 7, so in the conversion, anything above 7 is recorded as 7.

Also, Otago does not interview people into 2nd year med (EDIT: from the HSFY pathway), it's purely on UMAT and HSFY. Auckland, however, does.

 

[greenglacier]

Thank you for that~ but how is GPA conversion from NZ to AUstrailia more favourable? i thought it would be less favourable...
also, i thought Otago Uni did do interviews after HSFY into 2ndyear MBChB

GPA conversion is a hazy area, but I believe at most Australian universities the current standard is that A-, A, and A+ all count as 7 points (the maximum) in their GPA system. In other words, you could get (for example) 5 A- and 3 A in HSFY (which wouldn't get you into Otago med) and it would be converted to a perfect Aussie GPA of 7.0, which obviously looks very good to the Australian unis. It's not so good for the person who gets 8 A+ (and also gets an Aussie GPA of 7.0) but chances are that person would be accepted into med at Otago anyway.

Otago doesn't do interviews for undergraduate admission into med.

If I recall correctly, GPA in NZ goes up to 9, but in Australia it only goes up to 7, so in the conversion, anything above 7 is recorded as 7.

[offtopic]Almost, but not quite . If you get a B+ or lower in NZ, that'll count as less than 7 in Australia, so your GPA will never make the perfect 7.0

In NZ it's quite possible to get a B+ and still have a GPA > 7.0[/offtopic]

 

[SKpol]

wow... okay i have actually learnt something new today~~ haha Thank you for the info guys~

 

[SKpol]

i presume that it would also be the same for auckland uni OLY1?

 

[greenglacier]

i presume that it would also be the same for auckland uni OLY1?

Your eligibility to apply for the Australian med schools is the same, and GPA conversion is the same.

However, Otago will not let you do HSFY if you have done OLY1 (unlike Auckland, which will let you do OLY1 if you have done HSFY), so the only way to apply for Otago would be to finish your Auckland degree and apply as a graduate.

 

[Cathay]

[offtopic]I feel sorry for the person who ended up mass-mailing all CELS students (and staff I presume) thinking Blackboard was down... [/offtopic]

 

[aaa24]

[offtopic]I feel sorry for the person who ended up mass-mailing all CELS students (and staff I presume) thinking Blackboard was down... [/offtopic]

hahahaha, just saw this. Poor guy, well i hope he finishes it in time. I cant wait until friday, and i thought the hubs test was ambiguous haha.

 

[Ben]

Lol, I emailed them last night telling them that they'd just pulled an "A.J".

 

[aaa24]

I was wondering, i know they are a while away but how separated are the final exams? A few days?

 

[greenglacier]

For the last three years the timetable has been:

Friday - HUBS
Monday - CELS
Wednesday - CHEM
Friday - PHSI

In other words, they all occur over the space of 8 days. You do get a week off to study beforehand though.

 

[aaa24]

Oh cool, thats better than i expected to be honest. Hope its similar this year.

Thanks again GG.

 

[Cathay]

Came across the term 'cerebral aqueduct' in my pre-readings last night, which reminded me of the 'cerebral aqueduct incident' with HUBS191 a few years ago (from the 258-page thread)... There was a slide today on hydrocephalus, which had a diagram with an arrow pointing to a region (that got blocked) between the 3rd and 4th ventricles, labeled "aqueduct" - I'm guessing that's an improvement?