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Post-UMAT 2018 Debrief Thread

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PimpOfRivia said:
Interesting point. However, I highly doubt ACER will mislead its customers. I am sure there is a way to grade with all questions being of equal value.
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There’s only one way to make all questions worth equal value... by making them equal
 
PimpOfRivia said:
Interesting point. However, I highly doubt ACER will mislead its customers (literally what benefit would it bring them?)
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As I carefully pointed out in the linked post ACER does not mislead its customers, by giving equal raw value to each question.

However after ACER applying their magics/manipulation/algorithms... the score value (what we actually see and matters to med schools) changes to being unequal - the only way that can result in increments of 1 in the section scores.
 
PimpOfRivia said:
Interesting point. However, I highly doubt ACER will mislead its customers (literally what benefit would it bring them?)
There must be a way to grade with all questions being of equal value.
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Maybe each question is worth a different number of points and the number of points each question is worth is randomly allocated between the 134 questions. That’s my best guess.
 
Smelly Boy said:
There’s only one way to make all questions worth equal value... by making them equal
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Maybe the UMAT should be out of 300 marks. 100 for each section. Would make things quite easy eh?
Oh, 300 questions is too much for 3 hours I hear you say?
Assuming 80 seconds per question, Let's make it a ~6.5 hour exam instead. We GAMSAT now boyz
Problem solved!
 
Lear said:
Maybe the UMAT should be out of 300 marks. 100 for each section. Would make things quite easy eh?
Oh, 300 questions is too much for 3 hours I hear you say?
Assuming 80 seconds per question, Let's make it a ~6.5 hour exam instead. We GAMSAT now boyz
Problem solved!
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Maybe they should make no exam and randomly allocate people a number between 1 and 100 and that’s ur percentile for entry to Med school
 
Smelly Boy said:
Maybe they should make no exam and randomly allocate people a number between 1 and 100 and that’s ur percentile for entry to Med school
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Sweden(?) had a system even simpler than that; they give you lottery tickets for entry to med school. It's weighted to your GPA so in effect it's like you get more tickets, more chances of being drawn out with higher GPA.

After a number of years they abolished it, due to too many getting in with lower GPA then failed haha.
 
A1 said:
Sweden(?) had a system even simpler than that; they give you lottery tickets for entry to med school. It's weighted to your GPA so in effect it's like you get more tickets, more chances of being drawn out with higher GPA.

After a number of years they abolished it, due to too many getting in with lower GPA then failed haha.
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Who the hell got paid to devise that system LOL?
That is the dumbest thing I've heard bahaha. At least if they simply took the highest GPA applicants it would still make some sense. But a lottery. Oh boy.
 
Lili said:
Hi Noteven

What undergratudate course did you choose and which Uni? More than likely I too will have to go the post grad pathway, but I am unsure which course to do. I have considered Medical Science, Advanced Science, Psychology, Pharmacy, Radiology and even that Clinical Science degree at Macquarie.

Would love to get your advice.
Thanks
Lili
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Hi Lili, PLEASE read this thread if you haven't already done so:
Common pitfalls to avoid for year 12 school leavers and other medicine applicants
It was written by someone with plenty of insight into degree selection and the like.
While others on the forum may disagree, you should NEVER do a degree for the sole purpose of gaining entry to medicine or preparing yourself for GAMSAT. Trust me. Pursue a degree that will provide you with a stable alternative career path should you never gain entry to medicine (which, unfortunately, is the most likely outcome for all applicants to medicine). Of the above that you mentioned; pharmacy and radiography (I assume this is what you mean rather than radiology - you're not quite at that stage yet!) could provide a solid alternative career, as well as psychology (although I believe a proper career requires much more than just an undergraduate degree - LMG! has more insight). You clearly have interests in health and the sciences, so you may also consider: nursing, physiotherapy, occupational therapy, medical laboratory science, paramedical science - there are plenty more.

Feel free to ask more questions in a relevant thread if you need to,there is a wealth of experience among the users on MSO! :)
 
A1 said:
Sweden(?) had a system even simpler than that; they give you lottery tickets for entry to med school. It's weighted to your GPA so in effect it's like you get more tickets, more chances of being drawn out with higher GPA.

After a number of years they abolished it, due to too many getting in with lower GPA then failed haha.
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You're being sarcastic right??
 
Smelly Boy said:
I read this ages ago and it’s actually true

And with it I think it was like there’s one year where the lottery runs and if u miss out then u miss out forever lollll
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What. The. Actual. F#$(.

Who in their right mind would think that someone with being lucky enough to win the lottery ticket would correlate to being empathetic?
But then again, would you need to work if you won like 5 million dollars?
 
Ruffle said:
In regards to S3- were there many questions in which mapping could be used? Also were there many "this is to that" questions?
ME seems to have noticed a trend in recent years where the number of questions that could be solved with the former method were in decline; whereas the latter style of question was becoming more numerous.
Also, were there many cartoon-like S2 questions?
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'This is to that' questions were phased out in 2006, so whichever materials you used for preparation are quite outdated I think.
 
EmmaKer said:
'This is to that' questions were phased out in 2006, so whichever materials you used for preparation are quite outdated I think.
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There were two ‘this is to that’ questions last year so maybe that’s why ruffle asked. But yeah definitely none this year
 
One thing I've learnt is that never bet your money on what questions can come. ACER is completely unpredictable, e.g., the new style of questions this year about the pregnant mothers. It's best to prepare for ALL types of questions, and if that's not enough, move to a country where your future is determined by a lottery ticket. Bruhhhh...
 
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