Post-UMAT 2018 Debrief Thread

[Trinhcent]

(yes I am replying to myself)
I think for this question I remember recognising that the liquids were poured in order starting from A. Also, I believe A either had the highest or lowest density and as you went down the column it (increased/decreased). I.e the list was sorted in order of density. From this I somehow recognised that any new liquid poured would sit either above or below the next one poured ( I can't remember if the density was decreasing down a column or increasing but I did use this for my answer) and thus if the consequent liquid did NOT mix any other liquid poured on top of that would effectively be shielded from mixing with the one below the liquid that did not mix with the bottom one. This probably doesn't make sense but ill explain it with an example. Take liquids A B C

A - P=3, Density = 0.5
B - P=7, Density = 0.34
C - P=4, Density = 0.2

Now if we poured from A B C in order, We know that A would sit at the bottom as it has the highest density. When we pour B it will NOT mix with A but sit above it. Next we pour C. If we had simply mixed A and C they would have mixed, however, since C is less dense than B, B will effectively shield C from mixing with A at the bottom (I remember the question mixing there was no turbulent mixing or something).
Thus, despite having two liquids that do mix together, we would still have three layers.

I believe this is the logic I used when answering the question about maximum possible layers.
Anyone else use this?

yea density and the order liquids were mixed in had to be taken into consideration

 

[Lear]

Yeah so I think what i did was from the list, I took the number of liquids total. And then found the total liquids adjacent in rows that mixed. From there I minused the total number of liquids by the amount of adjacent liquids and then added back in 1 for each combination. I remember it was a number above 5 but dont recall exactly what it was.

 

[Trinhcent]

Yeah so I think what i did was from the list, I took the number of liquids total. And then found the total liquids adjacent in rows that mixed. From there I minused the total number of liquids by the amount of adjacent liquids and then added back in 1 for each combination. I remember it was a number above 5 but dont recall exactly what it was.

i moved on from that question and tried to get rough numbers hahahah rip

 

[Lear]

haha fair enough

 

[PimpOfRivia]

Does anyone else also worry they they will get less than 50 in section 3? I can count on one hand the number of section 3 questions I knew. The rest were a blind and or educated guess. I don't need high marks in section 3 but I do need to meet a threshold and I don't think that is happening.

Dude chillax
When I sat the UMAT last year I was only able to solve 20 questions and took educated guesses for roughly 10-15 and guessed the rest. I got a score of 59.

 

[Littlebro]

Does anyone else also worry they they will get less than 50 in section 3? I can count on one hand the number of section 3 questions I knew. The rest were a blind and or educated guess. I don't need high marks in section 3 but I do need to meet a threshold and I don't think that is happening.

Haha bruh I am in the same boat - thought S3 was going to be quite chill in the exam and most patterns would be obvious but I was rudely awoken on the day. I also have the scary feeling that I am not even going to manage 50 for that Section.
Hopefully S2 and S1 went much better...

 

[PimpOfRivia]

Lear I remember getting 9 for that question. Smelly Boy got 10.

 

[Trinhcent]

hey everyone, I've been thinking about the question involving the self-reports of the kids with sleeping problems. Was there something involving simultaneous equations because otherwise it felt uncertain and straightforward just to subtract numbers. What were your thoughts on this one?

 

[Lear]

Lear I remember getting 9 for that question. Smelly Boy got 10.

How many liquids were there total?

 

[Smelly Boy]

hey everyone, I've been thinking about the question involving the self-reports of the kids with sleeping problems. Was there something involving simultaneous equations because otherwise it felt uncertain and straightforward just to subtract numbers. What were your thoughts on this one?

No simultaneous equations it was just 832 people in total so you just minus one value from 832 to get the value of the letters S T and U I’m pretty sure unless I missed something

 

[Smelly Boy]

Lear I remember getting 9 for that question. Smelly Boy got 10.

I do remember putting 10 but while I was counting i FELT like I double counted something but I spent a while on that question so I thought I should just move on. I never get the feeling of double counting but I really felt like I did. I still put down 10 because I didn’t want to re-do the count lol. I think it’s probably 9 since most people said 9

 

[Trinhcent]

No simultaneous equations it was just 832 people in total so you just minus one value from 832 to get the value of the letters S T and U I’m pretty sure unless I missed something

ah okay hahaha

 

[Littlebro]

No simultaneous equations it was just 832 people in total so you just minus one value from 832 to get the value of the letters S T and U I’m pretty sure unless I missed something

Oh yeah that q, don;'t you just work out the total number from the previous years then subtract one number from that year?

 

[Q3]

I do remember putting 10 but while I was counting i FELT like I double counted something but I spent a while on that question so I thought I should just move on. I never get the feeling of double counting but I really felt like I did. I still put down 10 because I didn’t want to re-do the count lol. I think it’s probably 9 since most people said 9

I counted it twice and I got 10.

 

[Ruffle]

'This is to that' questions were phased out in 2006, so whichever materials you used for preparation are quite outdated I think.

Yep that's true. The reason I asked was because that type of question appeared in UMAT 2016, so when I did the ME course in 2017 they were saying that it might have been a trial question that would appear in UMAT 2017 (they were right). So it's interesting that they disappeared this year.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hi Lili, PLEASE read this thread if you haven't already done so:
Common pitfalls to avoid for year 12 school leavers and other medicine applicants
It was written by someone with plenty of insight into degree selection and the like.
While others on the forum may disagree, you should NEVER do a degree for the sole purpose of gaining entry to medicine or preparing yourself for GAMSAT. Trust me. Pursue a degree that will provide you with a stable alternative career path should you never gain entry to medicine (which, unfortunately, is the most likely outcome for all applicants to medicine). Of the above that you mentioned; pharmacy and radiography (I assume this is what you mean rather than radiology - you're not quite at that stage yet!) could provide a solid alternative career, as well as psychology (although I believe a proper career requires much more than just an undergraduate degree - LMG! has more insight). You clearly have interests in health and the sciences, so you may also consider: nursing, physiotherapy, occupational therapy, medical laboratory science, paramedical science - there are plenty more.

Feel free to ask more questions in a relevant thread if you need to,there is a wealth of experience among the users on MSO!

Here is a handy fact sheet I prepared earlier: Psychology

Lili if you have any other questions, let me know

 

[Smelly Boy]

You guys remember that s2 question about a mother and daughter arguing?

When the daughter said “I hate you” to the mum was she trying to make her mum feel guilty? I think I put that or another option. Wat did y’all put

 

[Trinhcent]

i think i put guilty for this one, although I can't seem to recall the other options

 

[Smelly Boy]

i think i put guilty for this one, although I can't seem to recall the other options

I rememebr I was at war with myself for guilty and one other option and I think I shaded guilty in and just moved on

Just went to the gym for the first time in 5 days. Felt good to be back and I forgot about umat for 1.5hrs! New record since 25 july

 

[zocdae]

I rememebr I was at war with myself for guilty and one other option and I think I shaded guilty in and just moved on

I believe the other option was something like she said it to “express disapproval against her mother’s decision (that she needs to apologise)” or something like that. I think that was the only other viable option and after some tossing up I chose that over guilty because she said “I hate you, I hate her!” right after saying that there’s no way she’s going to apologise, which made me think she’s saying like no way i’m going to apologise to her, she sucks and you suck! Because she also did storm off right after.

But guilty could also be true because she stormed off with tears in her eyes but it could go either way I think.