Post-UMAT 2018 Debrief Thread

[jiaxing]

there was one s2 I was rly unsure about, which was the passage where the woman who abandoned her kid talked about her colleague and her advice. When the colleague said sth like "you have no idea what my life is like," did you guys put her as feeling a) guilty and defensive or b) reassured and self confident?

Definitely not B because she is defending herself, rather than showing that she is confident.

I'm not sure if the other option was "guilty and..." but I chose that option because I immediately ruled out B.

What did you pick?

 

[Lear]

true, but we don't know that, so wouldn't it be an assumption to say anything otherwise using our data set solely?

Didn’t the question say what does the data of IV tell us in comparison to the others?
If I remember correctly we had to simply compare what the two data sets told us instead of trying to prove that we can conclude something from IV.
For example if I had a data set saying being over weight gave you a 10% chance of being over weight and gave you percentages for each of under weight, normal weight extremity overweight.

And then I also had a data set simply saying overweight people have 60% chance of being unhealthy, I think you can still compare what the two data sets are telling us.

I honestly don’t remember the question completely though

 

[MambaMent..]

Definitely not B because she is defending herself, rather than showing that she is confident.

I'm not sure if the other option was "guilty and..." but I chose that option because I immediately ruled out B.

What did you pick?

yea I thought the same kinda thing. reassured also seemed too strong given the phrasing of her statement.

 

[jiaxing]

Didn’t the question say what does the data of IV tell us in comparison to the others?
If I remember correctly we had to simply compare what the two data sets told us instead of trying to prove that we can conclude something from IV.
For example if I had a data set saying being over weight gave you a 10% chance of being over weight and gave you percentages for each of under weight, normal weight extremity overweight.

And then I also had a data set simply saying overweight people have 60% chance of being unhealthy, I think you can still compare what the two data sets are telling us.

I honestly don’t remember the question completely though

I think this was a different question from the same question stem? One question asked us to compare the data holistically, while another question asked us to compare two sets of data from the given data. I agree with your reasoning for this question though - that we can still compare the two data sets even if there is a slight "discrepancy" in one.

 

[Jaburi]

Definitely not B because she is defending herself, rather than showing that she is confident.

I'm not sure if the other option was "guilty and..." but I chose that option because I immediately ruled out B.

What did you pick?

I think I ended up going for the one which had assertive/confident. I didn’t get the impression that she was feeling guilty, it seemed as if she had worked pass that in time.

Seemed more as if she was offended that her co-worker was acting like she knew everything about her situation and so wanted to give it to her.

 

[lillysayse]

there was one s2 I was rly unsure about, which was the passage where the woman who abandoned her kid talked about her colleague and her advice. When the colleague said sth like "you have no idea what my life is like," did you guys put her as feeling a) guilty and defensive or b) reassured and self confident?

Assertive

 

[lillysayse]

How can you compare data sets that are not comparing the same things? It was blank for several columns.

 

[jiaxing]

I think I ended up going for the one which had assertive/confident. I didn’t get the impression that she was feeling guilty, it seemed as if she had worked pass that in time.

Seemed more as if she was offended that her co-worker was acting like she knew everything about her situation and so wanted to give it to her.

Tbh the exact options and the context behind that line has diffused out of my mind, but from what I can remember, she seemed like she was fed up with the other lady telling her what to do and reached her boiling point. So, she said something that was polite but also would "shut that bish down". According to this amazing reasoning, she would self confident because she'd be like OHHHH SHE ABOUT TO GET SHUT DOWNNN but she wouldn't be self-assured. She wouldn't also be guilty because she's reached a boiling point and once one reaches that point, there aint no guilt. Seems like assertive...

Nek minnut I picked guilty.

 

[Lear]

How can you compare data sets that are not comparing the same things? It was blank for several columns.

I beleive it had the same ‘things’ in that there were columns for under weight over weight etc etc. it is just that we weren’t given most of the column’s information except one. Essentially however, it was the same study

 

[lillysayse]

I thought she was being assertive. What evidence was there for guilty? I thought she basically told the lady to stop prying and thinking you know everything about my situation when you aren't me. That seems assertive to me.

 

[lillysayse]

I beleive it had the same ‘things’ in that there were columns for under weight over weight etc etc. it is just that we weren’t given most of the column’s information except one. Essentially however, it was the same study

I think only one column had data,the other two or three were blank so comparing different things

 

[jiaxing]

I thought she was being assertive. What evidence was there for guilty? I thought she basically told the lady to stop prying and thinking you know everything about my situation when you aren't me. That seems assertive to me.

That's a nicer way of phrasing my reasoning hahaha

 

[jiaxing]

Did anybody get that S2 paragraph where the man has given a lecture and his mother and wife/girlfriend (forgot which one) came with him?

What did you guys get for the question that asked why the mother was stuttering, i.e., using ellipses at the start of the paragraph when talking to the wife/girlfriend?

 

[Lear]

I think only one column had data,the other two or three were blank so comparing different things

Wait what. Lemme show you what I mean.
Say there’s under weight, normal weight and overweight and study shows chance of being healthy.

Study 1 says Underweight 40%, Normal weight 90% and overweight 30%

Study 2 only gives us overweight = 70%

While we aren’t given information about underweight and overweight in study 2, we can still say that study 2 in comparison to study 1 tells us an overweight person has a higher likelihood of being unhealthy.
Yes we aren’t given the other two but we are still given over weight.
We are, essentially, comparing the same things.

 

[Jaburi]

Did anybody get that S2 paragraph where the man has given a lecture and his mother and wife/girlfriend (forgot which one) came with him?

What did you guys get for the question that asked why the mother was stuttering, i.e., using ellipses at the start of the paragraph when talking to the wife/girlfriend?

I think it was asking why did the mother say lines x - y (at the start). I put down that she felt she needed to explain herself (why she was reading the pamphlet).

Another one asked what the mother was feeling being there and I put that she was feeling [something that had a slightly negative connotation], but pleased to be there.

And also another one which asked what the other girl (not the mum) felt, and I put that she felt protective of the mum.

 

[Lear]

I think it was asking why did the mother say lines x - y (at the start). I put down that she felt she needed to explain herself (why she was reading the pamphlet).

Another one asked what the mother was feeling being there and I put that she was feeling [something that had a slightly negative connotation], but pleased to be there .

I believe I had same answers for both.

 

[Smelly Boy]

I thought she was being assertive. What evidence was there for guilty? I thought she basically told the lady to stop prying and thinking you know everything about my situation when you aren't me. That seems assertive to me.

Yeah I chose this one

 

[MambaMent..]

I believe I had same answers for both.

same

 

[Smelly Boy]

Did anybody get that S2 paragraph where the man has given a lecture and his mother and wife/girlfriend (forgot which one) came with him?

What did you guys get for the question that asked why the mother was stuttering, i.e., using ellipses at the start of the paragraph when talking to the wife/girlfriend?

I think I chose she was trying to impress the girlfriend. This is because the girlfriend specifically points out she could see the mum correcting herself for her.

And I chose she we overwhelmed but proud/pleased to be there? Something like that

 

[MambaMent..]

I think I chose she was trying to impress the girlfriend. This is because the girlfriend specifically points out she could see the mum correcting herself for her.

And I chose she we overwhelmed but proud/pleased to be there? Something like that

for second, I defs think she was overwhelmed but wasn't sure about her feeling proud about son