Post-UMAT 2018 Debrief Thread

[Jaburi]

And I chose she we overwhelmed but proud/pleased to be there? Something like that

Yep, that’s the one.

 

[jiaxing]

I think it was asking why did the mother say lines x - y (at the start). I put down that she felt she needed to explain herself (why she was reading the pamphlet).

Another one asked what the mother was feeling being there and I put that she was feeling [something that had a slightly negative connotation], but pleased to be there.

And also another one which asked what the other girl (not the mum) felt, and I put that she felt protective of the mum.

Same answer for Qn 1, but I don’t think she needed to explain herself why she was reading the pamphlet. Rather, she didn’t want to come off as being “illiterate” infront of the wife/gf because giving a lecture at a university means her son is of some academic stature. This is supported by the lady saying “Me and my son...I should say...my son and I” etc

Same answers and reasonings for Qn 2 and Qn 3.

 

[Smelly Boy]

Rather, she didn’t want to come off as being “illiterate” infront of the wife/gf because giving a lecture at a university means her son is of some academic stature. This is supported by the lady saying “Me and my son...I should say...my son and I” etc

The thing is that she tells the girlfriend that she and her husband are illiterate. She says how they could never go school past grade 6 or whatever. That’s why I didn’t choose that she was trying to explain herself. The other two options I think weren’t that good. So I went with impress since the girlfriend could tell that the mum was trying really hard to correct herself for the girlfriend. And she apologises when she feels out of her depth. I think the combination of trying hard to correct herself and apologising when feeling out of her depth show that she thinks the girlfriend (and everyone else there) is ‘better’ than her so it makes sense if she is trying to impress the gf

 

[tleb]

I thought she was being assertive.

same

 

[Littlebro]

Same answer for Qn 1, but I don’t think she needed to explain herself why she was reading the pamphlet. Rather, she didn’t want to come off as being “illiterate” infront of the wife/gf because giving a lecture at a university means her son is of some academic stature. This is supported by the lady saying “Me and my son...I should say...my son and I” etc

Same answers and reasonings for Qn 2 and Qn 3.

I agree with y'all here. Praying for S2 haha

 

[jiaxing]

The thing is that she tells the girlfriend that she and her husband are illiterate. She says how they could never go school past grade 6 or whatever. That’s why I didn’t choose that she was trying to explain herself. The other two options I think weren’t that good. So I went with impress since the girlfriend could tell that the mum was trying really hard to correct herself for the girlfriend. And she apologises when she feels out of her depth. I think the combination of trying hard to correct herself and apologising when feeling out of her depth show that she thinks the girlfriend (and everyone else there) is ‘better’ than her so it makes sense if she is trying to impress the gf

The man who gave the lecture is not her husband, he is her son. Therefore, while she says that her husband and her never went to school past grade 6 or whatever, she is rather proud of her son (who gave the lecture) that he has excelled academically, but also overwhelmed because she never made it to the point where her son has. This is accentuated by the fact that she keeps correcting her grammar to impress the other girl. Yes, the older lady does want to impress the younger lady (the wife or gf) but she does so out of feeling the need to sound smart (if you get what I mean). She wasn’t trying to explain herself as to justify what she was saying, but she was trying to not sound dumb. This is supported by the fact that the wife/gf of the man being protective of her.

Then again, ACER can just say nah it’s option E goizzz

 

[A1]

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[PimpOfRivia]

The man who gave the lecture is not her husband, he is her son. Therefore, while she says that her husband and her never went to school past grade 6 or whatever, she is rather proud of her son (who gave the lecture) that he has excelled academically, but also overwhelmed because she never made it to the point where her son has. This is accentuated by the fact that she keeps correcting her grammar to impress the other girl. Yes, the older lady does want to impress the younger lady (the wife or gf) but she does so out of feeling the need to sound smart (if you get what I mean). She wasn’t trying to explain herself as to justify what she was saying, but she was trying to not sound dumb. This is supported by the fact that the wife/gf of the man being protective of her.

Then again, ACER can just say nah it’s option E goizzz

Precisely, her and her husband didn't have access to education unlike her son, who is now an important figure (and an academic most likely). As a person who has not been exposed to such a scholarly environment (quite often), she is overwhelmed and the presence of the girl just amplified it.

Well this is how I understood it at least :|

 

[Smelly Boy]

Precisely, her and her husband didn't have access to education unlike her son, who is now an important figure (and an academic most likely). As a person who has not been exposed to such a scholarly environment (quite often), she is overwhelmed and the presence of the girl just amplified it.

Well this is how I understood it at least :|

Yeah this is my reasoning

 

[jiaxing]

Yeah this is my reasoning

I don’t understand. If we had the same reasoning, why was our final answer different? Or am I misinterpretting something?

 

[PimpOfRivia]

I think its the same reasoning but different conclusion to as why the mother is overwhelmed

 

[jiaxing]

Yeah this is my reasoning

Ahh logical reasoning applied outside of UMAT. I like dat *dj khaled voice*

 

[lillysayse]

I didn't think the mother felt that she needed to impress her. If she needed to impress her, why would she explain her history of limited education etc. Instead I thought the mother felt the need to explain herself (which she did, by explaining her limited education) and the girl felt protective of her (the girl supported her). Also the mother was overwhelmed but pleased.

I also don't think she was trying to impress her by correcting her grammar. She was correcting her grammar because she was feeling inadequate, which later seemed to be the case.

 

[MambaMent..]

I didn't think the mother felt that she needed to impress her. If she needed to impress her, why would she explain her history of limited education etc. Instead I thought the mother felt the need to explain herself (which she did, by explaining her limited education) and the girl felt protective of her (the girl supported her). Also the mother was overwhelmed but pleased.

I also don't think she was trying to impress her by correcting her grammar. She was correcting her grammar because she was feeling inadequate, which later seemed to be the case.

did you in the end pick the option of the mother being overwhelmed and proud?

 

[PimpOfRivia]

I didn't think the mother felt that she needed to impress her. If she needed to impress her, why would she explain her history of limited education etc. Instead I thought the mother felt the need to explain herself (which she did, by explaining her limited education) and the girl felt protective of her (the girl supported her). Also the mother was overwhelmed but pleased.

I also don't think she was trying to impress her by correcting her grammar. She was correcting her grammar because she was feeling inadequate, which later seemed to be the case.

Straight out of my mouth XD

 

[Smelly Boy]

I didn't think the mother felt that she needed to impress her. If she needed to impress her, why would she explain her history of limited education etc. Instead I thought the mother felt the need to explain herself (which she did, by explaining her limited education)

I also don't think she was trying to impress her by correcting her grammar. She was correcting her grammar because she was feeling inadequate, which later seemed to be the case.

Oo ok this seems to make a lot more sense actually

 

[Lear]

I didn't think the mother felt that she needed to impress her. If she needed to impress her, why would she explain her history of limited education etc. Instead I thought the mother felt the need to explain herself (which she did, by explaining her limited education) and the girl felt protective of her (the girl supported her). Also the mother was overwhelmed but pleased.

I also don't think she was trying to impress her by correcting her grammar. She was correcting her grammar because she was feeling inadequate, which later seemed to be the case.

My thinking exactly.

 

[Smelly Boy]

What is everyone’s Med school preferences?

Mine is:
1. UNSW and WSU [equal - not sure which id prefer - since I’m a GWS student (helps with wsu and I’m nearby) and I’m eligible for EAS (helps with unsw and I attend uni here)]
2. JMP (edit: and JCU)
3. The rest

 

[Lear]

1. Monash
2. UNSW
3. WSU
4. UAdel
5. JMP
6. Literally anywhere

 

[bigaboy]

It was the same q (last part I think), and yea I chose that option about rejecting it completely, since we only had like one of the 5 pieces of data all the other sets had.

Why would you reject it?

1. The table was showing information for obesity, overweight, etc. and it’s effects on death (I think?) compared TO PEOPLE WITH IDEAL WEIGHT. Therefore, this study could’ve simply been comparing extremely overweight people with normal people and didn’t even involve the other groups.

2. I believe the reasoning in the answer for supposedly needing to reject the data was because it was so different to the other studies. However, if you looked in the left most column, it showed what year the studies were done, and study 4 and 5 were done decades after studies 1,2 and 3. Also, study 4 and 5 were done within a few years of each other, and they’re table values for being extremely overweight were fairly similar, suggesting that study 4 wasn’t an outlier.

Just my 2 cents.