Post-UMAT 2018 Debrief Thread

[zocdae]

Also for that same stimulus, there was one which asked how the mother’s manner changed from the start to the end of the passage. I remember picking something —> teenage angst but thinking to myself why would the mother have teenage angst, but all the other options seemed more incorrect?

What did everyone else get?

 

[Smelly Boy]

Also for that same stimulus, there was one which asked how the mother’s manner changed from the start to the end of the passage. I remember picking something —> teenage angst but thinking to myself why would the mother have teenage angst, but all the other options seemed more incorrect?

What did everyone else get?

Yess I chose same thing. That had to be the worst 4 options I have ever read in my life lolll

 

[Smelly Boy]

just read medentry post-umat forum thingy off my friend's account

quite a bit of people are saying they had to guess so many s1 and that the stimuli were far too complex to understand.

almost everyone said that s2 was easy to narrow down to 2 options but very difficult to choose the best between two answers

almost everyone had a hard time with s3 and they usually said that ME s3 practice failed them because they couldn't see the answer using common ME patterns and mapping.

Overall seems like they had a hard time. So for those here saying that it's going to require more questions correct to get (say) 90th percentile then you probably aren't right about that and you probably did better than most people in the exam!

 

[tleb]

Overall seems like they had a hard time. So for those here saying that it's going to require more questions correct to get (say) 90th percentile then you probably aren't right about that and you probably did better than most people in the exam!

Exactly. Also, if you disagreed with a few ppl on here about S2 answers I honestly wouldn't sweat it as many people would have not finished the exam and would probs have blind guessed a lot of s2 questions; so that 2 or 3 questions in S2 you think you stuffed up is literally nothing. To be honest if you actually had a crack at most questions with some degree of accuracy you should be more than fine.

 

[jiaxing]

You guys remember that s2 question about a mother and daughter arguing?

When the daughter said “I hate you” to the mum was she trying to make her mum feel guilty? I think I put that or another option. Wat did y’all put

I remember this question asked (along the lines of): what was the daughter’s intentions in those lines?

There were two options I narrowed it down to. One option was the guilty one, and the other option was an objective opinion. Since the question asked us to put ourselves in the daughter’s shoes, she would be trying to make her mother feel guilty by lashing out at her - even though she showed signs of guilt herself!

So guilty option for me too goizzzz

 

[jiaxing]

Also for that same stimulus, there was one which asked how the mother’s manner changed from the start to the end of the passage. I remember picking something —> teenage angst but thinking to myself why would the mother have teenage angst, but all the other options seemed more incorrect?

What did everyone else get?

Teenage angst for me too!

Angst means to continually worried or anxious. The daughter showed signs of guilt, such as by the way she looked up at her mother when her mother first questioned her and her running off crying at the end. There was one other option I narrowed it down to, and it’s JUST diffused my mind! Argh! Can anybody remember what it was?

I picked the angst option regardless

 

[jiaxing]

just read medentry post-umat forum thingy off my friend's account

quite a bit of people are saying they had to guess so many s1 and that the stimuli were far too complex to understand.

almost everyone said that s2 was easy to narrow down to 2 options but very difficult to choose the best between two answers

almost everyone had a hard time with s3 and they usually said that ME s3 practice failed them because they couldn't see the answer using common ME patterns and mapping.

Overall seems like they had a hard time. So for those here saying that it's going to require more questions correct to get (say) 90th percentile then you probably aren't right about that and you probably did better than most people in the exam!

But I used mapping for some of the questions and got the answer! I don’t see why so people are saying mapping wasn’t helpful?

 

[thegreatestever]

But I used mapping for some of the questions and got the answer! I don’t see why so people are saying mapping wasn’t helpful?

Mapping was still available but not as helpful as it was in previous years. I definitely felt there was more mapping last year.

 

[MambaMent..]

In that obesity q with the tables of different levels of weight, there was one question that asked us what we could conclude from the table most accurately, with I think the two tricky options being a) being underweight is more healthy than being overweight and b) being underweight will not necessarily cause health problems. What did everyone pick?

 

[Lear]

In that obesity q with the tables of different levels of weight, there was one question that asked us what we could conclude from the table most accurately, with I think the two tricky options being a) being underweight is more healthy than being overweight and b) being underweight will not necessarily cause health problems. What did everyone pick?

I remember picking for a question that being overweight will not necessarily cause health problems as there was no significant difference in health of those that were at the right weight and those that were overweight

 

[jiaxing]

In that obesity q with the tables of different levels of weight, there was one question that asked us what we could conclude from the table most accurately, with I think the two tricky options being a) being underweight is more healthy than being overweight and b) being underweight will not necessarily cause health problems. What did everyone pick?

I can’t remember which specific option I picked, but I remember noting that although overweight had a greater probability for 5 year olds and 12 year olds, it didn’t for one age group. The converse applied too.

At the end, I had two options and I picked the one that said (along the lines of) overweight not necessarily causing problems since it was the most diplomatic answer out of the four.

 

[Smelly Boy]

I remember picking for a question that being overweight will not necessarily cause health problems as there was no significant difference in health of those that were at the right weight and those that were overweight

Same

 

[lillysayse]

What about that same question stem but asking about what you would do with group IV data. One of the options was ignore it because it differs so much. Or is the same question?

 

[MambaMent..]

What about that same question stem but asking about what you would do with group IV data. One of the options was ignore it because it differs so much. Or is the same question?

It was the same q (last part I think), and yea I chose that option about rejecting it completely, since we only had like one of the 5 pieces of data all the other sets had.

 

[lillysayse]

It was the same q (last part I think), and yea I chose that option about rejecting it completely, since we only had like one of the 5 pieces of data all the other sets had.

Same here.

 

[MambaMent..]

there was one s2 I was rly unsure about, which was the passage where the woman who abandoned her kid talked about her colleague and her advice. When the colleague said sth like "you have no idea what my life is like," did you guys put her as feeling a) guilty and defensive or b) reassured and self confident?

 

[Smelly Boy]

Why would you reject it? What if the study used 10 times the participants the preceding studies had and therefore gave ‘better’ data for that specific section?

I chose a different option to rejecting it. I think the option that said to reject it I crossed off immediately as an answer. Can’t remember what I actually chose though

 

[MambaMent..]

Why would you reject it? What if the study used 10 times the participants the preceding studies had and therefore gave ‘better’ data for that specific section?

I chose a different option to rejecting it. I think the option that said to reject it I crossed off immediately as an answer. Can’t remember what I actually chose though

true, but we don't know that, so wouldn't it be an assumption to say anything otherwise using our data set solely?

 

[Lear]

Why would you reject it? What if the study used 10 times the participants the preceding studies had and therefore gave ‘better’ data for that specific section?

I chose a different option to rejecting it. I think the option that said to reject it I crossed off immediately as an answer. Can’t remember what I actually chose though

I think I did not reject it either. I believed it just showed that those that are extremely overweight are not healthy. So I think I picked the option saying it simply
Showed being extremely overweight is unhealthy

 

[Jaburi]

true, but we don't know that, so wouldn't it be an assumption to say anything otherwise using our data set solely?

Well the difference here is that he’s not really assuming anything, just leaving that possibiliy open (as you should).

By choosing the option to completely ignore it, that’s when you’re actually making the assumption.