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[Undergrad] Pros and Cons of each Uni

UAC preferences - UNSW vs Sydney vs UWS vs Newcastle (unbonded)

Hey guys, I was wondering how I should order my UAC preferences.
That is, assuming I get 99.95 and so am eligible for Sydney Uni.
I live in south-east Sydney.
Also, assume that I'm only going for unbonded offers.

UNSW - I will definitely place this first on my offers.

But how should I order Sydney Uni, Newcastle Uni and UWS?

Sydney Uni:
Pros: Very prestigious, in Sydney
Cons: 7 years, entry not absolutely guaranteed: dependent on credit GPA average

Newcastle Uni:
Pros: 5 years, straight into MBBS (no GPA requirement like Sydney Uni), very good reputation (although not prestigious)
Cons: It's not in Sydney, risk of being sent to Armidale (although it doesn't make much difference if I'm away from home in Newcastle anyway)

UWS:
Pros: 5 years, straight into MBBS (no GPA requirement like Sydney Uni), in Sydney
Cons: Poor reputation of university

If I didn't care much about the reputation of the university I would definitely put UWS second (but I still wouldn't be sure about Sydney vs. Newcastle), but I'm looking to do a specialty which is quite academically high-powered (don't know what, but that's the sort of person I am), probably not surgical, but that includes both research and clinical work (perhaps something professorial).

So now I'm not sure at all.

Obviously I don't have to decide until Jan 2014, but I was just wondering what you guys thought.
 
Well first get a 99.95 HAHAHA - easy said then done

But for me I would put:
1) UWS - I live close to the university
2) UNSW - travel takes 1 and a half hour one way
3) JMP - i will have to move out
4) USYD - 7 years :/

But yeah, prepare to move interstate/out for medicine as it is one of the hardest courses to get into D:
 
If i had received newcastle and syd (both unbonded) i would take newcastle everyday of the week. Why waste 2 years on non existent prestige? Same goes for UWS. If you wanted to go to usyd over newcastle because of location that's a different story. But i think i would still take newcastle because its a 2 year shorter degree.

In terms of reputation. Every uni has a reputation at putting out med graduates with the exact same piece of paper as any other uni. More so each uni's med program is so stringently monitored that i doubt there would be any conceivable difference in the standard between each unis degree.

My choice would be based on location and length of time before any prestige or reputation.
 
UWS:
Pros: 5 years, straight into MBBS (no GPA requirement like Sydney Uni), in Sydney
Cons: Poor reputation of university

If I didn't care much about the reputation of the university I would definitely put UWS second (but I still wouldn't be sure about Sydney vs. Newcastle), but I'm looking to do a specialty which is quite academically high-powered (don't know what, but that's the sort of person I am), probably not surgical, but that includes both research and clinical work (perhaps something professorial).

So now I'm not sure at all.

Obviously I don't have to decide until Jan 2014, but I was just wondering what you guys thought.

I don't understand this line of thinking at all. Everyone who graduates from an Australian medical school has the same qualifications. Just because someone else has a degree that says USYD rather than UWS or UoN or UNE doesn't mean they'll have a better chance at a specialty. I've worked in health for the last 12 years & NEVER heard anyone say that a certain Doctor's degree is from a better university, so he/she must be a better Doctor.

I would also argue that UWS medicine doesn't have a bad reputation. Among those in the medical arena in Sydney it actually has a good reputation. At Liverpool hospital, which is a major teaching hospital of UNSW, there are a lot of consultants who are very impressed with UWS. Some of these doctors are A/Profs at UNSW.

Just because a medical school is new, or isn't in as 'good' an area of the city as others doesn't make it bad.
 
No-one cares about which university you go to. It's just like how what high school / ATAR you got basically stops mattering after starting uni (ok, well, people may ask you where you went), but it's not going to determine how they think of you and your degree. What matters is your dedication/application to study. They don't care about where you went to medical school.

I'm not too sure what you mean by academically high-powered, but that's your marks rather than anything. Specialty colleges look at your CV (rotations, hospitals), referees and interview amongst other things, but no judgment is placed on medical school.
 
University = Flinders University, SA

1. Campus: where is the campus/capuses? How big are they? Are they nice? Campus is located 1/2 an hour drive from the Adelaide CBD. 5km to the beach (Brighton) and about 2km, less probably, to Marion Shopping centre, which has everything you need/big(ish) mall with everything you need. Campus is quite large, lots of trees, spectacular views over to Glenelg/Brighton beach. Buildings aren't sandstone (e.g Melbourne) but most, especially the Health Sciences building, are really modern and well equipped. Flinders Medical Centre (Private and Public hospital) are part of the Uni, the med school is within the Hospital.
2. Social: Does the uni have sport teams? Pub? Hows the uni food? There are sports teams, especially social basketball/soccer/netball on weeknights. Flinders Uni has a footy team (AFL), Soccer, Netball, a few others. Cheap student Gym. There is a pub on campus, Coopers, but it's not as lively as say UniBar (at the University of Adelaide). Food= lots of choice, subway on campus, cafe, Coopers Bar. Cafes in the hospital/med centre (part of the uni) and a few good restaurants just opposite the hospital. Because the Uni is out in the suburbs a bit, the social scene (for non-med students anyway) is a bit bland, however the Med student's society does a heap of events and that's where you get most of your social contact from.
3. Student Society: Does the uni have an active medical society? What kind of activities do they organise? Medical Student society is quite active and involved. Organise quiz nights, blood drives, inter year sports competitions (e.g 1st year vs 2nd year), med ball, specialty pathways evening, guest speakers, social sport). FMSS is a great organisation, they do heaps and you have ample opportunities to get to know your fellow med kiddies :)
4. Accommodation: Is there decent on campus accommodation? How about around the uni? Prices? Good choices available on campus. Flinders Uni Hall (Collegiate style, fully catered, great place to live, around $275 a week, fully catered, all inclusive). Also 'Deidre Jordan Village', self contained town houses run by the Uni, nice and modern (mostly) about $175 a week, including all utilities (you have to cater for yourself). Heaps of rental places near the Uni at reasonable rates.
5. Cost of living: Including rent and food? Pretty good, better than any other capital city (save Hobart maybe). See above.
6. Amenities: Student car park? Tennis court? Anything? Parking can be hard to find if you arrive late, however if you're in before the 9am rush there's no problem. Well equipped and cheap student gym, tennis courts.
7. Study assistance: How is the library? Lots of copies of Talley? Computers? Other learning tools (skeleton models etc)? Heaps of study assistance. Med is a non graded pass, to encourage co-operation. Med Library is great, well equipped, free unlimited wi-fi which is great for downloading tv shows *cough* doing work. Good selection of books. Heaps of support from the year levels above.
8. International links: Any links with other universities? Overseas elective potential? Flinders sells its medical course overseas to several universities in the UK and US (including Columbia). 4th year, final year, is basically one big elective, you can go wherever you want, heaps of people go to New York, UK, developing countries. Lots of rural opportunities, can spend 3rd year entirely rural if you want (and it's good, apparently)
9. Location: Within a busy city? Or by the shores? Etc See point 1
10. Number of students: How many? Too many? How many people in PBL or per anatomy class etc? hmm about 200 in the Cohort, not sure how many in the PBL, but it seems reasonable.
11. Entertainment: How's the night life? Beach sports? Winter sports? Or pretty much boring? Adelaide gets rowdy down Rundle street, but that is a fair way from the Uni. Really have to go into the city for nighlife, which is easy (good buses etc.) Beach=close. Winter sports= no snow, but you can play footy etc.
12. Worst thing: ? If you're not a med student, the social scene can be a bit boring. If you're a med student, heaps of fun.
13. Best thing: ? The course is amazing and the cost of living is low.
 
UNI: MONASH (sorry if some of this has been said, but I thought I'd give some input)

1. CAMPUS: Yes, Monash is the butt of many jokes pertaining to its location. Clayton is not the most convenient place ever, and is situated pretty randomly in Melbourne. However, I actually don't mind the location. Do I wish it were a bit closer to the city? Sure. But it really isn't that far - only takes me 15-20 minutes to drive from my house near the city. However, I don't always drive so I hate that the public transport to Clayton is super inconsistent. It's so unreliable.. Can take me an easy 30 minutes or it can take an hour and a half. The best thing about having a campus in Clayton is that it sort of forces everyone together. While at other unis near the city people spread out during breaks to go to various nearby places, in Clayton we have to stay on campus to eat and hang out. My group of med friends sits down to eat lunch together every day, since we can't disperse and go elsewhere. It's actually kind of a blessing in disguise, so don't let the location turn you off.
2. SOCIAL: Socially, I have found Monash to be fantastic. I love it. Monash Clayton is a huge campus, with tens of thousands of students there every day (I think it has the most students in Aus, but someone correct me if I'm wrong), so there are always things going on. Teams for every sport (both social and competitive), successful theatre and music groups, countless other clubs... The parties are also really fun, especially the AXPs (after exams parties), which get crowded and rowdy pretty quickly. Also the campus bar, Sir John's, is great, especially if you sneakily get yourself an Engineering Society membership to qualify for $1 drinks on Thursdays (not sure why the discount only applies for eng kids, but weird prejudice aside it's still awesome). But the best thing is the social aspect within med. I didn't really know anyone coming in and now I have a great and extremely close group of friends. Most of us met at the first med O-Week party and now we hang out every lunchtime and go out every weekend. Med has heaps of events, and we are all really close within the preclin crew.
3. STUDENT SOCIETY: Monash's med society, MUMUS, is incredibly well-organised and active. It's a very professional organisation that is constantly working hard and organising amazing things. We have a fantastic med revue, an inter-year sports festival, great parties (especially med ball and booze cruises), a choir, an orchestra, all organised through MUMUS. All sorts of things. They're really great. Plus the students on the committee are really nice and fun, and very approachable.
4. COST OF LIVING: Average. Melbourne tends to be one of the more expensive cities, especially with things like public transport and food, but I've found the cost to be less than other cities like Sydney and Perth. It's very easy to get around high costs, especially at Clayton where food is actually pretty cheap. Myki (public transport) does tend to add up, as does petrol since traffic is always pretty awful (classic Melb). In terms of what most kids living out of home spend, I'd take a wild stab at $180 per week for rent and $50 for groceries. It's really not too bad.
5. ACCOMMODATION: Personally I live at home, but many kids in med live away from their families, and none have really struggled with finding accommodation - it's pretty easy to find and relatively affordable. Rent prices can be pretty cheap, especially if you get a sharehouse near uni as many med students do. Mannix (the college on campus) is expensive, but it does include food and all kinds of parties as well. The Mannix kids have a fantastic time, both socially and academically, as the college is like 70% med students and they're all super close. However, the college is notoriously hard-partying; the Mannix pub night is Wednesday before an 8am start on Thursday, so I have a huge amount of respect for their stamina. The halls of residence are considerably cheaper (around $170-$200 a week), and tend to be good value. There are also some new halls which have just been built and which are really nice and modern. And halls generally also have a great social life and support network.
6. AMENITIES: Again, the campus is big and so has heaps of stuff. Monash Sport is a large complex with all kinds of sport facilities, including a great gym that is quite well-priced. There are technically heaps of places to park but with the huge number of students it can be very hard to find a spot, especially in the mid-morning. And parking permits are expensive. So most of my friends use the carpooling service, where you just need another two students in the car who can scan their student IDs there, and you can park for free. In terms of other amenities, there is a dance/yoga studio, music rooms, a random pool table hidden in a basement under the campus centre.. All sorts of things.
7. STUDY ASSISTANCE: Study help within med is great. Our student society organises revision lectures, study groups, case nights, clinical skills nights, first aid courses and notes/textbook exchanges. We also have great study groups (especially first and second year ones), which are extremely helpful. However, there are some minor problems. The libraries are great but if you go at a peak time (eg lunchtime, early afternoon), it can be really hard to find a spot to study as, despite being pretty huge, they are still not quite big enough for all the demand. Especially the Science/Eng/Biomed/Psych/Med library, which is a great facility but really needs another floor to accomodate all those who frequently use it. Yet if you know where to look there are some great quiet places that are pretty well-kept secrets. We are one of the only big unis without a 24-hour library service, which is a constant annoyance throughout the campus. The Monash Student Association has been campaigning for 24-hour library supervision for years to no avail, but hopefully they'll win soon. Also there are not many copies of textbooks at the library, but we almost all have the e-books so it doesn't really matter. Overall, study assistance is mostly great.
8. INTERNATIONAL LINKS: There are some international opportunities, not heaps for med students but there are some. The uni at large has heaps of exchanges and they're really popular but med doesn't have quite as many. There are, however, options to volunteer overseas (which heaps of kids do), visit the Malaysia or South Africa campuses or do some clinical rotations overseas.
9. LOCATION: See answer 1. Clayton is a fairly random location.
10. NUMBER OF STUDENTS: Monash has a large cohort (320ish per year level) but it actually never seems like that many. We all pretty much know each other, get on well and it never seems overcrowded. The classes are still quite small despite the number of students, with about 15 per PBL, 16 per clinical skills class and 18 or so in an anatomy tute. Yet here are only 5/6 kids per cadaver in dissection so it's really easy to see everything and not overcrowded.
11. ENTERTAINMENT: Directly near Clayton, there is pretty much nothing. Except a couple of pubs which are frequented every week by the Halls and Mannix kids (and which are actually really fun). Apart from that, Clayton is dead in terms of nightlife. However, if you take the 25 minute trip into the city you have the entire Melbourne scene to work with, which of course (in my completely objective opinion) is the best nightlife in Australia. There are heaps of things in the city, so if you venture a bit away from campus you're spoilt for choice.
12. WORST THING: Public transport. It might seem a bit nitpicky but if I'm not driving to uni on a given day I never know how long it's going to take me to come in. The Melbourne transport system is fantastic usually, but for some reason it sucks near Monash. There's a shuttle bus that takes kids the 2 minute drive to the nearest train station, but for some reason (no one has any idea why), this bus is not free. A bit silly considering there's a free shuttle bus that goes between campuses, yet the other shuttle is quite expensive for a trip that is literally 3 or 4 streets away from uni. So a trip home for me can cost over $5 which is way too much. And the trains are always late.
13. BEST THING: Everything else. The course is fantastic, everyone is lovely, the med community is beyond amazing, the faculty are great, the social scene is awesome and the campus is nice, despite what some people will say about Clayton. Plus free Boost Juice days, a gazillion free barbecues, intermittent free pancake days... I really, really love it here.
 
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Monash pride <3

(not sure why the discount only applies for eng kids, but weird prejudice aside it's still awesome)

It's not a prejudice, it's just that they're the only club that's bothered to make a deal with the bar.

Re: 8, there are PLENTY of exchanged available for 5th year.
 
Monash pride <3



It's not a prejudice, it's just that they're the only club that's bothered to make a deal with the bar.

Re: 8, there are PLENTY of exchanged available for 5th year.

Monash Pride fo lyf.

And dude I was kidding, I know it's not prejudice! :) That would be a weird kind of prejudice if it were... Pretty smart of MESS if you ask me - their membership must have gone through the roof since the drink deal. So many people wanting those dollar dranks.
 
Re: 8, there are PLENTY of exchanged available for 5th year.

And that's what I was trying to get at re. clinical rotations overseas - I know there are heaps of great 5th year options. And I forgot to mention the great BMedSci opportunities such as doing those at overseas unis. Oxford, etc.
 
And dude I was kidding, I know it's not prejudice! :) That would be a weird kind of prejudice if it were... Pretty smart of MESS if you ask me - their membership must have gone through the roof since the drink deal. So many people wanting those dollar dranks.

Haha, they don't call it Engibeering for nothing :P
 
Hey guys, I was wondering how I should order my UAC preferences.
That is, assuming I get 99.95 and so am eligible for Sydney Uni.
I live in south-east Sydney.
Also, assume that I'm only going for unbonded offers.

UNSW - I will definitely place this first on my offers.

But how should I order Sydney Uni, Newcastle Uni and UWS?

Sydney Uni:
Pros: Very prestigious, in Sydney
Cons: 7 years, entry not absolutely guaranteed: dependent on credit GPA average

Newcastle Uni:
Pros: 5 years, straight into MBBS (no GPA requirement like Sydney Uni), very good reputation (although not prestigious)
Cons: It's not in Sydney, risk of being sent to Armidale (although it doesn't make much difference if I'm away from home in Newcastle anyway)

UWS:
Pros: 5 years, straight into MBBS (no GPA requirement like Sydney Uni), in Sydney
Cons: Poor reputation of university

If I didn't care much about the reputation of the university I would definitely put UWS second (but I still wouldn't be sure about Sydney vs. Newcastle), but I'm looking to do a specialty which is quite academically high-powered (don't know what, but that's the sort of person I am), probably not surgical, but that includes both research and clinical work (perhaps something professorial).

So now I'm not sure at all.

Obviously I don't have to decide until Jan 2014, but I was just wondering what you guys thought.

My main advice is to not worry about prestige of the university. In a course like Arts, which is offered at most places, you can afford to be a bit more picky about which uni you go to. But in med, if you really want to do the course, you should kind of be willing to go anywhere you're offered... I know this is a bit easier said than done but it's very true. Just because a uni isn't a sandstone institution that's been around for 150 years doesn't mean it's not worthy. Even if you want to do a 'high-powered' specialty, it really really shouldn't matter. A medical degree is a medical degree and as long as you do well you should be fine to do the specialty you want. Think of it like this: we worry like crazy about what ATAR we get in year 12, but once you enter uni no one cares at all what you got. You're in the course, that's all that matters. In fact, you're often considered kind of a douche if you talk about it.. It's the same once you graduate; once you're out in the workforce no one cares where you went - you're a doctor, you're qualified, and now you have to do well in your training. Also, just so you know, the UWS med course is hugely respected and very well regarded.

My other advice is to apply for bonded places! Not sure if I interpreted your post wrong and thought it meant you weren't considering bonded places, but you really do have to apply for them. A lot of people make this mistake and only apply for unbonded places. Personally I'm unbonded but I did apply for bonded places everywhere, and ERC at Monash. I was hoping for unbonded, but now that I've started uni I've realised how little having a bonded position matters... We all do the same course together, and have multiple years before 'bonded' means anything..

My preferences were:
1. UNSW
2. UNCLE
3. UWS
4. USYD (for me the prospect of doing a 5 year course way outweighed the prospect of being in the inner city, so SYD was my last choice)

Just be prepared to go anywhere. Remember (and this is something to think about for interviews as well), unis want to hear that you're so desperate to do medicine that you'd move away from home/go interstate/pretty much do anything to do it. Obviously they want to hear that you like their uni the best but it's important to remember that most places assume you want to do med so badly you'd go to any uni ('prestigious' or 'not prestigious') to do it. :)
 
University: University of Tasmania

1. Campus: There is a separate Medical Sciences Precinct right in the heart of the Hobart CBD, opposite the Royal Hobart Hospital. The campus was officially opened in 2014, so everything is new and shiny and great. There are great study spaces and facilities. The MBBS cohort is typically around 110 students or less per year.
2. Social: There are 'uni' sport teams, but I don't know if they are actually organised by the uni. If you stay at one of the 3 residential colleges, there are many sports events and teams that do battle with each other. There is a bar at the main campus, but this is about 20 minutes away from the med campus. There is a cafe onsite, which is a bit expensive but the food is alright. But don't worry: there's heaps of food because we're in the city :)
3. Student Society: There is a very active med student society, which holds a number of wild parties throughout the year. There's also a camp for first years and other things such as med cocktail, med ball and some parties.
4. Accommodation: There are three residential colleges run by the university. Two of them are at the main campus, probs about an hour to walk, but there are chartered buses that go to the med campus every morning and afternoon. There is another college about 20 minute walk from campus, but there are also private buses that run to school and back every hour. Jane Franklin college is fully catered, so it may be more on the pricey side. There are also good places to rent around the city and being Hobart, everything is close to everything. Prices should be relatively very cheap when comparing to the mainland cities.
5. Cost of living: Pretty cheap- I'm pretty sure Hobart has the cheapest rental prices in Australia (compared to mainland cities). Food can be pretty expensive though.
6. Amenities: There is no student car park, but parking in the city is pretty cheap. (free for the first 2 hours :D) There's a swimming pool and tennis centre practically right next door. Uni-gym, with discounted prices for students.
7. Study assistance: There is a clinical library next door to the med school in the clinical school (in the hospital). Heaps of text books, free wi-fi for students all around campus. There's a quite extensive pathology library which I've heard is the largest in Australia or something-- I go there all the time- there are human remains in 'pots', which have unique medical issues. During study vacation, all of the anatomy models are available for study. The anatomy teaching is excellent: starting from second semester in first year, there are cadaver dissections and viewings every week.
8. International links: the University of Tasmania has connections to heaps of universities in Japan, a couple in Hong Kong, Korea and one in Taiwan. Loads in Europe and North America. I have heard of many med students going on exchange to the UK, Iceland and Sweden, but there are heaps of elective opportunities. This year there was also a special exchange to Singapore.
9. Location: Right in the Hobart CBD: it's basically a big town, population like 250 000. Really handy location, there are good buses and everything is close to everything. It's a really beautiful city.
10. There are about 100 in my year. Anatomy classes, there are only about 4 per dissection table, so it's really great. You get to know everyone really well by the end of the year. All of the tutorials have about 10 students in them, so it's really personalised learning.
11. Entertainment: If you're into nature and bushwalking and outdoor stuff, then you will love Hobart. It's often too cold to go to the beach, unless you have a good wetsuit, although I'm a bit of a weakling when it comes to the cold. The average temp is about 16 degrees celcius. Not much night life.. skiing in the mountains during the winter if you want. Stunning landscapes. If you don't have any friends, then you'll be really bored in Hobart.
12. Worst thing: Having to start at 8 am some days. Difficult to get in to if you're from interstate- umat percentile is often close too 100%, or high 90's.
13. Best thing: Very liveable, beautiful city. I live in Hobart and for Tasmanians, getting in to med is much easier than for interstaters. Everything is so close.
 
Hey @annualday5

I just got an offer from UTas for 2015, so this is really useful, thanks.

As a second year student, do you have any sense of the internship situation for Tasmanian med-grads. A recent grad posted in another thread that there were enough places for last year's graduates. Are you guys worried about this for the future? What about RMO / specialist training? I know this is a while away for you, but still very interested in any thoughts / speculation!

Are there many 'mature' (i.e. not straight from school) students in your class?

Any advice or insights much appreciated.

Cheers.

University: University of Tasmania

1. Campus: There is a separate Medical Sciences Precinct right in the heart of the Hobart CBD, opposite the Royal Hobart Hospital. The campus was officially opened in 2014, so everything is new and shiny and great. There are great study spaces and facilities. The MBBS cohort is typically around 110 students or less per year.
2. Social: There are 'uni' sport teams, but I don't know if they are actually organised by the uni. If you stay at one of the 3 residential colleges, there are many sports events and teams that do battle with each other. There is a bar at the main campus, but this is about 20 minutes away from the med campus. There is a cafe onsite, which is a bit expensive but the food is alright. But don't worry: there's heaps of food because we're in the city :)
3. Student Society: There is a very active med student society, which holds a number of wild parties throughout the year. There's also a camp for first years and other things such as med cocktail, med ball and some parties.
4. Accommodation: There are three residential colleges run by the university. Two of them are at the main campus, probs about an hour to walk, but there are chartered buses that go to the med campus every morning and afternoon. There is another college about 20 minute walk from campus, but there are also private buses that run to school and back every hour. Jane Franklin college is fully catered, so it may be more on the pricey side. There are also good places to rent around the city and being Hobart, everything is close to everything. Prices should be relatively very cheap when comparing to the mainland cities.
5. Cost of living: Pretty cheap- I'm pretty sure Hobart has the cheapest rental prices in Australia (compared to mainland cities). Food can be pretty expensive though.
6. Amenities: There is no student car park, but parking in the city is pretty cheap. (free for the first 2 hours :D) There's a swimming pool and tennis centre practically right next door. Uni-gym, with discounted prices for students.
7. Study assistance: There is a clinical library next door to the med school in the clinical school (in the hospital). Heaps of text books, free wi-fi for students all around campus. There's a quite extensive pathology library which I've heard is the largest in Australia or something-- I go there all the time- there are human remains in 'pots', which have unique medical issues. During study vacation, all of the anatomy models are available for study. The anatomy teaching is excellent: starting from second semester in first year, there are cadaver dissections and viewings every week.
8. International links: the University of Tasmania has connections to heaps of universities in Japan, a couple in Hong Kong, Korea and one in Taiwan. Loads in Europe and North America. I have heard of many med students going on exchange to the UK, Iceland and Sweden, but there are heaps of elective opportunities. This year there was also a special exchange to Singapore.
9. Location: Right in the Hobart CBD: it's basically a big town, population like 250 000. Really handy location, there are good buses and everything is close to everything. It's a really beautiful city.
10. There are about 100 in my year. Anatomy classes, there are only about 4 per dissection table, so it's really great. You get to know everyone really well by the end of the year. All of the tutorials have about 10 students in them, so it's really personalised learning.
11. Entertainment: If you're into nature and bushwalking and outdoor stuff, then you will love Hobart. It's often too cold to go to the beach, unless you have a good wetsuit, although I'm a bit of a weakling when it comes to the cold. The average temp is about 16 degrees celcius. Not much night life.. skiing in the mountains during the winter if you want. Stunning landscapes. If you don't have any friends, then you'll be really bored in Hobart.
12. Worst thing: Having to start at 8 am some days. Difficult to get in to if you're from interstate- umat percentile is often close too 100%, or high 90's.
13. Best thing: Very liveable, beautiful city. I live in Hobart and for Tasmanians, getting in to med is much easier than for interstaters. Everything is so close.
 
Hi,
Congratulations for your offer!
I have heard that there has been a bit of an 'internship crisis' recently, but all of the graduates so far have received a place somewhere. I really don't know anything in detail since I've only just finished first year and so all of that sort of stuff is still quite a few years away. From what I have heard, Australian students get priority of places over international students, but other than that I don't really know anything. I'm afraid I don't know anything about specialist training or RMO positions either.. sorry!!
There are heaps of people who have transferred from other courses and there are some people who are post-grad as well. I think the oldest person in my year is almost 40. The average age is probably around 21, 22 I'd say. I reckon about half are school leavers maybe.
Was there anything else you'd like to know?
 
Was there anything else you'd like to know?

Thanks so much - that is all really useful. My other questions are more prosaic - i.e. do you need a car to get to off-campus placements in the first couple of years? But these can wait 'til later in Feb once I decide where to go. All the current UTas students who post on here seem really friendly and helpful, so that is a good sign!
 
[MENTION=21304]annualday5[/MENTION]

Hi,
I'm just a bit confused about the school leaver pathways into MBBS for the University of Tasmania, and I'd really appreciate it if you could please give some clarification on this!

Reading the pdf that's available on the website, I know that there is a "Guaranteed Entry" pathway which means 20 school leavers can study the Bachelor of Medical Research which is 3 years, then proceed onto MBBS, which is 5 years.
However, that would total 8 years of study.

Is there a direct entry for school leavers where they can enter straight into the MBBS?
I thought there was, but I can't find information regarding this in the MBBS pdf.
 
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