Quick Questions Thread #2: 2018-2019

[treefrogcamo]

Hi, good luck with your preparations. My average although not flashy but was Ok to get admission in conjunction with my performance in the interviews. 745/900 average SJT performance band 1. Not sure if I can repeat the SJT at the same level again. I have seen a few people scoring straight 900 (geniuses) doing Medicine at Cambridge and a few scored 900 in QR. I wanted to take the BMAT as well but missed as my final HSC paper (Physics) was on that BMAT exam date in 2017. My preparation to UKCAT was about less than 2 weeks of sporadic check on a few tests as I was engrossed in preparing for HSC and on the side UMAT (Med Entry). UKCAT was the second choice but that's the one came better although I managed a 99.20 ATAR but a dismal UMAT (84%ile). This time I moved it upwards in UMAT...hoping to get interviews (maybe). If it does not click, all is not lost at all, I am at a great university with a fantastic curriculum with a high world ranking for Medicine and which finishes in 5 years with a chance to complete FY1 and FY 2 with full registration from GMC after that. As weeks go by, I am starting to enjoy the course with high calibre cohorts from the UK and around the world. If possible I may come back at a Registrar level if there is a vacancy in hospitals in Australia in the future.:yes:

Please refer to the entry criteria below:
https://www.ukcat.ac.uk/media/1197/using-my-2017-ukcat-result-v2.pdf

Yeah fair enough. My guess is that a similar /900 average will be needed for UCAT for Aus Entry as well. See how we go. Thanks.

 

[MirrorsEdge]

Quick question regarding unsw rural entry.

Does unsw discriminate between school leavers and non standards. As in is there a set quota for non standards like JCU or are both treated equally .

I believe both are in the same pool. i.e. they are treated equally.

 

[Troy92812]

I am applying for Monash med, as well as Dentistry at UQ. I am an interstate student, so my med interview offer will probably come out around the time UQ Dentistry offers do (and consequently an offer of place at med, if any, will come out later as well). Apparently once you accept the UQ Dentistry offer, you MUST go to UQ? I.e. if I do receive a place for med at Monash (which comes out much later than dentistry offer at UQ for interstate students), I won't be able to go if I have already accepted the UQ Dentistry offer? Thanks

 

[A1]

Apparently once you accept the UQ Dentistry offer, you MUST go to UQ?

That's not true, no-one will force you to go UQ. If it's only an acceptance you can decline later. If the acceptance requires enrolment you can reverse the enrolment or withdraw without penalty.

 

[Javajhsbjs16389]

Question about WSU medicine entrance for rural program. Is the 93.5 Atar a cut off for entry?

 

[BethMark25]

Question about WSU medicine entrance for rural program. Is the 93.5 Atar a cut off for entry?

Do you mean is it a hurdle? If so, yes. So someone with an ATAR of 99 has the same chance as someone with an ATAR of 94 (for rural). It's the UMAT and interview performance that are ranked.

 

[Javajhsbjs16389]

Do you mean is it a hurdle? If so, yes. So someone with an ATAR of 99 has the same chance as someone with an ATAR of 94 (for rural). It's the UMAT and interview performance that are ranked.

I’ve just heard of people getting offers at WSU through rural with Atars lower than 93.5 and I thought it was strange

 

[BethMark25]

Are they straight out of school or have they completed a year of university?
Unlike UNSW, WSU will consider ATAR or GPA, depending which meets the requirements...

 

[Q3]

Do you mean is it a hurdle? If so, yes. So someone with an ATAR of 99 has the same chance as someone with an ATAR of 94 (for rural). It's the UMAT and interview performance that are ranked.

Does this give non-gws students a big advantage since their average UMAT is higher than the gws pool? The largest gap is close to a 28 difference in scores between non-gws (147) and gws (119).

 

[A1]

Does this give non-gws students a big advantage since their average UMAT is higher than the gws pool? The largest gap is close to a 28 difference in scores between non-gws (147) and gws (119).

Interview selection uses lower UMAT cutoff for GWS. Place offers we've been told are based 100% on the interview
> Quick Questions Thread #2: 2018

 

[cook]

hey guys, if a 2018 year 12 graduate were to get an offer at an interstate uni but not their in-state uni, could they defer the interstate offer and leave it as a kind of 'safety net' whilst they try again for their local uni the following year?

 

[Crow]

hey guys, if a 2018 year 12 graduate were to get an offer at an interstate uni but not their in-state uni, could they defer the interstate offer and leave it as a kind of 'safety net' whilst they try again for their local uni the following year?

In theory yes, though this depends on the university. Some universities (e.g. UQ) don’t allow gap year students to apply, so you’d need to check the uni in question before going ahead with a plan like this.

 

[Aibnes12]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to ask if someone were to be studying postgraduate dentistry and at the same time applying to both postgraduate and undergraduate medicine courses, what would be the implications for this. For example if their undergraduate GPA was 6.5, would the GPA they attain while studying postgrad dentistry affect their overall GPA in their applications to medicine. Also if one were studying postgraduate dentistry would this affect their entry into undergraduate medicine programs which normally allow graduates with Umat (Ucat) scores to apply to their programs? If someone could guide me in the right direction it'd be much appreciated! By the way, this is a completely hypothetical situation, I haven't been smart enough to apply for and get into postgraduate dentistry but was looking at the various pathways into med. Cheers!

 

[Crow]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to ask if someone were to be studying postgraduate dentistry and at the same time applying to both postgraduate and undergraduate medicine courses, what would be the implications for this. For example if their undergraduate GPA was 6.5, would the GPA they attain while studying postgrad dentistry affect their overall GPA in their applications to medicine. Also if one were studying postgraduate dentistry would this affect their entry into undergraduate medicine programs which normally allow graduates with Umat (Ucat) scores to apply to their programs? If someone could guide me in the right direction it'd be much appreciated! By the way, this is a completely hypothetical situation, I haven't been smart enough to apply for and get into postgraduate dentistry but was looking at the various pathways into med. Cheers!

Hi Aibnes, welcome to MSO.

Your GPA for the various postgraduate medicine courses will be calculated based off either a completed qualification, or a qualification that will be completed in the same year that you are applying. This means that if you were in a postgraduate dentistry course and applied each year for postgraduate medicine, your calculated GPA would be based off the results in your undergraduate degree for the first three years, then in the fourth year (the final year of the DDS) your results would be based off the DDS results - BUT this only applies for universities that consider masters level degrees in their GPA calculations. Not all use masters level degrees to calculate GPA - some only go off the most recent Bachelor degree results. I'd recommend you refer to the GEMSAS guide to see how each institution calculates GPA. If you are planning on applying to Flinders, they only use undergraduate degree results too.

Studying a postgraduate dental degree won't influence your chances at applying to undergraduate medicine programs (you can still sit UCAT and apply each year), however, your GPA may be calculated differently based off the results in your masters degree for UNSW and Curtin (I don't know whether either of these universities use masters-level degrees in their GPA calculations for medicine, so you'd need to look this up). The reason I don't mention WSU and JMP (which are other undergrad courses you can apply to as a non-standard) is because they only use GPA as a hurdle requirement, so once you've met that in your undergraduate degree, the results of your masters shouldn't come into effect. I believe this is the same for JCU med, as they calculate GPA using the most recent undergraduate degree.

Hope that helps!

 

[Aibnes12]

Hi Aibnes, welcome to MSO.

Your GPA for the various postgraduate medicine courses will be calculated based off either a completed qualification, or a qualification that will be completed in the same year that you are applying. This means that if you were in a postgraduate dentistry course and applied each year for postgraduate medicine, your calculated GPA would be based off the results in your undergraduate degree for the first three years, then in the fourth year (the final year of the DDS) your results would be based off the DDS results - BUT this only applies for universities that consider masters level degrees in their GPA calculations. Not all use masters level degrees to calculate GPA - some only go off the most recent Bachelor degree results. I'd recommend you refer to the GEMSAS guide to see how each institution calculates GPA. If you are planning on applying to Flinders, they only use undergraduate degree results too.

Studying a postgraduate dental degree won't influence your chances at applying to undergraduate medicine programs (you can still sit UCAT and apply each year), however, your GPA may be calculated differently based off the results in your masters degree for UNSW and Curtin (I don't know whether either of these universities use masters-level degrees in their GPA calculations for medicine, so you'd need to look this up). The reason I don't mention WSU and JMP (which are other undergrad courses you can apply to as a non-standard) is because they only use GPA as a hurdle requirement, so once you've met that in your undergraduate degree, the results of your masters shouldn't come into effect. I believe this is the same for JCU med, as they calculate GPA using the most recent undergraduate degree.

Hope that helps!

Thank you so much Crow, this has helped clear up a lot of things I was confused about. I'll definitely be looking at the GEMSAS guide for GPA calculation!

 

[Javajhsbjs16389]

Are they straight out of school or have they completed a year of university?
Unlike UNSW, WSU will consider ATAR or GPA, depending which meets the requirements...

They were straight out of school

 

[Q3]

They were straight out of school

They could have gotten EAS atar bonus points.

 

[Javajhsbjs16389]

They could have gotten EAS atar bonus points.

How many bonus points can EAS offer?

 

[A1]

How many bonus points can EAS offer?

> Educational Access Scheme | Western Sydney University

You just need to show that your performance during years 11 or 12 (or equivalent) was seriously affected by circumstances beyond your control. If you qualify, you receive five bonus points. You can add these points to your ATAR (or equivalent) and increase your selection ranking.

 

[Javajhsbjs16389]

> Educational Access Scheme | Western Sydney University

Cool thanks!