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Quick Questions Thread: 2018
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whoops. thanks for the correction.
...Probably also worth pointing out that Monash Uni has only existed as an entity since the 1960's (not sure when they opened their med school to students). The universities of Melbourne and Sydney are very fond of banging on about their history (which, when compared to truly historical universities of the world, is pretty lacklustre!), but that should not be seen as a necessary mark of quality in isolation of other factors.
Hello guys, Im an international student looking to do graduate medicine. Im wondering which undergraduate course that would help me with entry as well as prepare me for graduate entry medicine. Currently im looking at bachelor of nursing and biomedical science at Western University of Sydney. much appreciated if you guys can help me decide between them. Cheers 
Hello guys, Im an international student looking to do graduate medicine. Im wondering which undergraduate course that would help me with entry as well as prepare me for graduate entry medicine. Currently im looking at bachelor of nursing and biomedical science at Western University of Sydney. much appreciated if you guys can help me decide between them. Cheers
It may depend which unis you’re planning to apply to, as some have pre-requisite subjects, that said, most of those subjects can be included in both nursing and biomedical science degrees. The other thing to weigh up is the fact that nursing, as a degree, is a career path in its own, should you not end up being successful in switching to Med. Biomedical science would likely require honours/PhD in order to make you employable should Med not work out.
Other than that, I’m not too on top of international student requirements and how much they differ (if at all), so hopefully someone else can weigh in.
So I have a question about rurality and chances of getting considered since I heard different answers from ppl in person.
If someone lives in a rural area for 10+ years, do they have more of a chance (not taking into account interview performance) than as opposed to someone living in rural area (same region as the other person) for less years like 5 etc? Or are they just considered equal?
Personally I think they're both equal but yeah.
If someone lives in a rural area for 10+ years, do they have more of a chance (not taking into account interview performance) than as opposed to someone living in rural area (same region as the other person) for less years like 5 etc? Or are they just considered equal?
Personally I think they're both equal but yeah.
They are both considered in the rural pool of applicants and not weighted differently in almost all situations.
The only (?) instance where rurality is rated differently is for JCU where, the more rural you are (and possibly the longer you’ve been rural), the more this can compensate for a lower ATAR/GPA. I think it’s because RA4 applicants ‘compete’ against other RA4 applicants, and because there are less of them, and their rural experiences are so much more extensive, the ATAR/GPA range tends to be much greater.
In addition to JCU as LMG! has mentioned, I notice UNSW & UWA have changed their wording from Rural to Rurality Index. The rating may be formulated on locality/total length of time plus how recent as well.
Hi guys, though I'm not really looking at medicine I was wondering if someone could give a rough idea of what OP I could get after school. My results are currently
Biology: A- (VHA1)
English: B+ (Ha10)
Modern: B+ (Ha10)
Chemistry C (SA5)
Maths b C- (SA3)
Any rough idea, I know there's a lot to consider. I'm hoping to bring everything up a bit more for next semester.
Thanks, any help would be appreciated stressing out over this.
Biology: A- (VHA1)
English: B+ (Ha10)
Modern: B+ (Ha10)
Chemistry C (SA5)
Maths b C- (SA3)
Any rough idea, I know there's a lot to consider. I'm hoping to bring everything up a bit more for next semester.
Thanks, any help would be appreciated stressing out over this.
People often ask these type of questions but given the nature of the OP system it is impossible for anyone to give you an accurate answer. You’d get a better answer if you could provide your SAI scores for each subject, as well as know how your cohort will compare with the rest of the state in QCS (which obviously you cannot know). You can only put in as much work as you can to lift your grades between now and graduation.
What career path are you interested in? Pretty much any path you want to pursue can be attained by completing university studies to a reasonable standard; your OP will become completely irrelevant after this year.
ETA: I should clarify what I mean by “completing” uni studies - in most cases this should only require 1-2 semesters of tertiary level work for you to transfer undergrad courses.
What career path are you interested in? Pretty much any path you want to pursue can be attained by completing university studies to a reasonable standard; your OP will become completely irrelevant after this year.
ETA: I should clarify what I mean by “completing” uni studies - in most cases this should only require 1-2 semesters of tertiary level work for you to transfer undergrad courses.
Hello, I can't seem to find much information on entrance to Flinder's university. Basically I'm from Victoria and would like to apply. However the ATAR cut-off seems to be very high (99.85+). In all honesty I don't think I can achieve that ATAR. In Victoria however , I am eligible for SEAS which will most likely boost my ATAR (maybe a 96-97+ raw). Anyway I was on the SATAC website and do not know how it (UES?) would work for interstate applicants. If I am eligible for all categories (excluding being rural) would that help me? Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
In terms of bonus points from UES, if you're from an interstate school that would qualify, then you might get some bonus points automatically. Furthermore, you can apply for further "individual adjustments" (read: bonus points) if you/your parents are holders of a Centrelink Health Care Card or receive Centrelink payments.
No bonus points would be applicable for subject choices (this bonus doesn't apply to the Flinders or the Adelaide medical degree.)
That depends on what ATAR you'd be looking to get prior to the bonus points, obviously, but (as a very rough and generous estimate) from a 97.00 I would probably not expect bonus points under the UES to boost you to over 99.5.
1) Have a read of this doc > Adjustment factors - SATAC
Ignore the Subjects bonus, you may qualify for the School-based bonus and if not that then consider the Individual bonus (i.e. not both). This scheme is administered by SATAC who has a list of SA/NT schools that qualify. For interstate you need to contact SATAC to enquire if your school qualifies.
2) https://www.satac.edu.au/documents/2017-sace-ntcet-university-aggregate-to-atar-conversion-table.pdf
This doc shows 99.85 requires 88.55 aggregate. The 5 bonus points reduce the aggregate to 83.55 which is around 97.50
dapurplepizza
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So, a friend and I were debating this today, and thought it would be a cool thread to put on medstudentsonline and hear what you think, especially as I don't think it's been discussed before.
But in your opinion...is lateral entry at unsw more like postgrad med or undergrad med?
The reasons for each that we came up with were:
Postgrad
-You already have a degree when you commence (Medical Science, and honours in it too)
-Unsw med is split up into 3 phases, of which the first 2 are primarily studying (learning at uni) phrases with the 3rd being entirely hospital rotations I think. When you join in the 3rd last year, you catch whatever's at the end of the learning and finish of with hospital rotations. But most of the learning you would've done was done in your undergrad medical science degree(4 years). Whereas in postgrad med, its often an undergrad science degree with a final medical degree that has a lot of hospital hours to make up for the lack of in the undergrad. So isn't unsw's lateral entry pathway like a postgrad in the structure of the degree?
Undergrad
-The course you join onto (unsw med) is an undergrad med course and they advertise it as an undergrad med course, so wouldn't it be undergrad if the uni said it was??
In your opinion, does the experience mirror more of an undergrad med student's experience or moreso a postgrad med student's experience?
But in your opinion...is lateral entry at unsw more like postgrad med or undergrad med?
The reasons for each that we came up with were:
Postgrad
-You already have a degree when you commence (Medical Science, and honours in it too)
-Unsw med is split up into 3 phases, of which the first 2 are primarily studying (learning at uni) phrases with the 3rd being entirely hospital rotations I think. When you join in the 3rd last year, you catch whatever's at the end of the learning and finish of with hospital rotations. But most of the learning you would've done was done in your undergrad medical science degree(4 years). Whereas in postgrad med, its often an undergrad science degree with a final medical degree that has a lot of hospital hours to make up for the lack of in the undergrad. So isn't unsw's lateral entry pathway like a postgrad in the structure of the degree?
Undergrad
-The course you join onto (unsw med) is an undergrad med course and they advertise it as an undergrad med course, so wouldn't it be undergrad if the uni said it was??
In your opinion, does the experience mirror more of an undergrad med student's experience or moreso a postgrad med student's experience?
Thank you so much! So say I get a 97.50 as you suggested, would they just add the bonus points to the corresponding aggregate? So, a 99.85 would be attainable for me through this scheme (provided I am eligible for 5 bonus points)? I will definitely contact them to see which schemes I'm eligible for and how many bonus points that would add. Regardless, I will attempt to achieve the highest ATAR I possibly can, but I have some difficult circumstances which is why I decided to try and apply for any bonus points. Once again thank you and Mana
The UNSW med course is a HYBRID of MedSt + MD (Masters level) so itself is already half undergrad half pseudo-postgrad.
The lateral entry students going into the 2nd-half as postgrad but it's not quite the same as the other grad schools MD. Reason being the other grad schools don't require a specific undergrad degree & teach medicine from the ground up, whereas UNSW requires them to have done MedSc & join the med course midway. I'd say the UNSW lateral entry is more of an undergrad med student's experience.
dapurplepizza
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Thanks, and thanks for moving my thread to the appropriate thread. I didn't know about the quick questions thread until now, but now that I know, I think I might use it in the future if I had any more questions like that
What are some other people's opinions on that topic? (If there's anyone reading that has something to say lol)
Hi I'm currently thinking of tertiary transfer into Adelaide uni med. I'm eligible for UES, but does that also apply to tertiary transfer students?
Also if I'm not, would it be better just to withdraw from my courses so that I use my atar instead?
I got 96.5 last year but I wasn't aware that I would have been eligible and didn't start receiving payments from centrelink till this year.
Edit: actually I realised I wouldn't be eligible since I needed to have been receiving payments during my year 12 studies...
Also if I'm not, would it be better just to withdraw from my courses so that I use my atar instead?
I got 96.5 last year but I wasn't aware that I would have been eligible and didn't start receiving payments from centrelink till this year.
Edit: actually I realised I wouldn't be eligible since I needed to have been receiving payments during my year 12 studies...
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thegreatestever
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They will still use your GPA given you have commenced a degree from there : https://health.adelaide.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/2019-medicine-surgery-admissions-guide.pdf
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