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Flinders Flinders Medicine: Provisional Entry General Discussion

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Just got off the phone with Flinders and they said I am between 30th-40th in the waiting list with 3200 + 600 SJT. How likely am I to receive an offer?
 
Hi has anyone else tried to fill out their eCAF but when they get to the part of academic eligibility, it's been autofilled with "secondary not ATAR" even though I applied with my atar?? (i also did sace)
 
drag0n said:
Hi has anyone else tried to fill out their eCAF but when they get to the part of academic eligibility, it's been autofilled with "secondary not ATAR" even though I applied with my atar?? (i also did sace)
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Secondary qualification but with additional selection criteria would most likely be the reason for this. It's not specifically ATAR entry.
 
2xq said:
Secondary qualification but with additional selection criteria would most likely be the reason for this. It's not specifically ATAR entry.
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Ohh ya that makes sense actually, since it's secondary not ATAR / Other. I'll still wait for confirmation though, don't want to risk it lol. Thank you!!
 
A1 said:
Unfortunately it seems to be No.

It's not Flinders per se but the SATAC UES scheme that Flinders accepts. See under the UES heading in this link
> Adjustment factors – SATAC
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Sort of in my opinion?

If you receive concession card adjustments for your illness then it counts. I believe health care cards are not means tested but low income concession health care cards are.

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A1 adds: I took a quick look - they are two independent matters. You/Family can be holder of a Health Care / Concession card (thus UES) without being ill, otoh someone can be ill yet not get a card
> https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/concession-and-health-care-cards?context=60091

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RainRainGoAway said:
Sort of in my opinion?

If you receive concession card adjustments for your illness then it counts. I believe health care cards are not means tested but low income concession health care cards are.

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A1 adds: I took a quick look - they are two independent matters. You/Family can be holder of a Health Care / Concession card (thus UES) without being ill, otoh someone can be ill yet not get a card
> https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/concession-and-health-care-cards?context=60091

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oh, thats disappointing, because i was diagnosed with a long-term illness, but i didnt receive any benefits from it. I just had regular doctor sessions.
 
lemonlimekomb said:
oh, thats disappointing, because i was diagnosed with a long-term illness, but i didnt receive any benefits from it. I just had regular doctor sessions.
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Some TACs/unis, UNSW in particular I think, do give special considerations to applicants who incur medical issues during their high school.

For Flinders they only mention the SATAC UES scheme and I don't see that UES includes medical issues. UES eligibility only includes disadvantaged schools, receiving Cmwth support payment, Health Care / Concession / School card. But don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
 
thanks so much- I wont end up applying for UES. Just wondering, since I'm in a gap year, and I didnt apply for EAS last year, am I still eligible to apply this year?
 
A1 said:
Some TACs/unis, UNSW in particular I think, do give special considerations to applicants who incur medical issues during their high school.

For Flinders they only mention the SATAC UES scheme and I don't see that UES includes medical issues. UES eligibility only includes disadvantaged schools, receiving Cmwth support payment, Health Care / Concession / School card. But don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
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I think that’s right based on my experience last year!

lemonlimekomb said:
thanks so much- I wont end up applying for UES. Just wondering, since I'm in a gap year, and I didnt apply for EAS last year, am I still eligible to apply this year?
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Yep! As long as you’ve got documents from 2024 not 2025!
 
How do Flinders rank the applicants? I know its by 90% ATAR and 10% UCAT. But how do they use these two measures, because they are out of different things. For example do they simply go 0.9(ATAR)+0.1(UCAT%tile)? If this is the case isn't UCAT more "important", because a 10%tile change can make a huge difference, and everyone is pretty much the same ATAR so even a 1 ATAR point won't make as much of a difference.
I might be wrong, but I have no clue how they calculate it.
 
thecookingnutz said:
How do Flinders rank the applicants? I know its by 90% ATAR and 10% UCAT. But how do they use these two measures, because they are out of different things. For example do they simply go 0.9(ATAR)+0.1(UCAT%tile)? If this is the case isn't UCAT more "important", because a 10%tile change can make a huge difference, and everyone is pretty much the same ATAR so even a 1 ATAR point won't make as much of a difference.
I might be wrong, but I have no clue how they calculate it.
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Doing it correctly the unis would mathematically normalise ATAR & UCAT to a same-same scale first, before applying the 90%-10% weightings.

Complicated to explain this process so we use anecdotes instead
- In my year a decade ago a 99.85 + 90%ile UMAT got an offer. My 99.80 + 100%ile did not. This indicates after the 90/10 weightings 0.05 ATAR was worth 10+ %iles.

- It remains similar now. We hear 99.95 + 92-93%ile got offers yet none 99.90, because 99.90 would need like 103-104%ile.
 
thecookingnutz said:
How do Flinders rank the applicants? I know its by 90% ATAR and 10% UCAT. But how do they use these two measures, because they are out of different things. For example do they simply go 0.9(ATAR)+0.1(UCAT%tile)? If this is the case isn't UCAT more "important", because a 10%tile change can make a huge difference, and everyone is pretty much the same ATAR so even a 1 ATAR point won't make as much of a difference.
I might be wrong, but I have no clue how they calculate it.
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Ranking applicants has been made a lot simpler in the last 5 years because there are now so many applicants with UES adjustments that push their selection rank to 99.95. At this point 99.95 is essentially a mandatory requirement (raw or adjusted, doesn't matter), applicants are then ranked by UCAT score as the only remaining differentiator. Cutoff is around low-90s percentile.

Echoing A1 's sentiments, 2019 was the last year that 99.90s had a chance. A friend with 99.90 + 3410 (~5th/13,000 in ANZ that year) got a Flinders offer while 99.90 + 3240 (~30th) did not.
 
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A1 said:
Doing it correctly the unis would mathematically normalise ATAR & UCAT to a same-same scale first, before applying the 90%-10% weightings.

Complicated to explain this process so we use anecdotes instead
- In my year a decade ago a 99.85 + 90%ile UMAT got an offer. My 99.80 + 100%ile did not. This indicates after the 90/10 weightings 0.05 ATAR was worth 10+ %iles.

- It remains similar now. We hear 99.95 + 92-93%ile got offers yet none 99.90, because 99.90 would need like 103-104%ile.
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Idk Ik someone with a .9 and 3500 last year who got an offer in a round before my friend who got .95 and like 2900

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A1 adds: Thanks for this info.
3500 is top of 99%ile, 2900 last year was 80%ile. This supports my theory that after the 90/10 weighting 0.05 ATAR is worth 10+ %iles.
 
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