Griffith Griffith Medicine: Provisional Entry General Discussion

[jayson]

The students from Nathan campus will move to GC after the initial 2 years to study MD.

How many place in Nathan pls?

 

[Tomato]

How many place in Nathan pls?

About 30-35, similar to GC's

 

[Liam_701]

Any other differences between this two campus besides geographical location. Thanks

2nd year GC MedSci here. I wouldn't be too worried about your choice of GC campus. The facilities are more up-to-date, with the course also being slightly more well-structured compared to Nathan. The only real downside is the more expensive accommodation, but Nathan students will be experiencing that in 2 years' time when they come down anyway.

Also something I don't think gets much mention - a high proportion of international students enroll in GC campus compared to Nathan (around 60% international students in GC cohort compared to ~1 international student in Nathan). I've consistently heard stories about how competitive the Nathan campus can be, as everyone is a top 0.2% ATAR high achiever, but thankfully there isn't much of that toxic peer competition on the GC campus which definitely improves the cohort environment.

 

[CarolineGuava]

Hello, some news about Griffith's provisional entry pathway!

For 2025 entry onwards, some changes have been made to the Bachelor of Medical Science:
- The minimum GPA required to progress to the Doctor of Medicine has been increased from 5.0 to 5.5.
- UCAT ANZ will now be introduced for second order ranking of applicants with the same ATAR. You'll still be considered for selection if you don't sit the UCAT, but you will be ranked at the bottom of your ATAR band. The score used will be the total (excluding SJT).
- Incremental adjustments have now been introduced, up to a maximum of 0.20 points added to the ATAR. This includes rurality, EAS and location.

Adjustment factors

Adjustment factors may boost your selection rank and can improve your chances of gaining a place in your preferred degree at Griffith.

www.griffith.edu.au

- The course structure has changed to fit in more elective courses - current students only have 2 electives which can only be taken in 2nd year, but commencing students from 2025 will have 8 electives across both years of the degree.
- Applicants must now have finished secondary school studies up to 1 year prior to application instead of 3 years.

As far as I'm aware, nothing has changed in the Doctor of Medicine.

So what does this mean for applicants?

From my perspective as a current 1st year MedSci at Nathan, the new admissions process puts a lot of weight on UCAT ANZ. This year's intake has been larger than recent years (40 at Nathan and 47 at GC against 30 places at each campus) and I imagine Griffith's going to clamp down on numbers from next year. Incremental adjustments, especially the +0.05 for QLD students, will mean there will be a lot more applicants with 99.95s and 99.90s so that the UCAT ANZ will be the deciding factor as to who gets a place.

I think Griffith's BMedSci used to be seen as one of the best options for applicants with a less competitive UCAT as the admissions process was 100% ATAR, but with adjustments and UCAT added, I wonder how things will change. Since this will be the first time Griffith is using the UCAT for MedSci, I have no idea what would be a competitive UCAT score.

I also think the cohort atmosphere might be different with these changes. My cohort at Nathan is really close, and the old prerequisite of completing school up to 3 years before application gave us a good range of ages for more variety of perspectives and life experiences. Our 1st year is all core courses as well, and all of us have really bonded by working together for all our assignments and tasks - I wonder if next year's cohort will have the same family dynamic with electives right from the first trimester?

Just to add that the new minimum GPA of 5.5, introduction of UCAT ANZ, and completing secondary school up to 1 year prior to application will also apply to USC's Bachelor of Medical Science.

 

[A1]

Incremental adjustments, especially the +0.05 for QLD students, will mean there will be a lot more applicants with 99.95s and 99.90s so that the UCAT ANZ will be the deciding factor as to who gets a place.

Thank you for the very informative post.

With last two years' cutoffs being 99.85 now plus 0.05 to 0.2 adjustment, it's conceivable there will be more 99.95s than the 80ish spots. The likely outcome is 99.95 only then ranked on UCAT, just like at Flinders.

 

[Hard]

Hello!
I am a WA Non-Rural School Leaver, Applying for Griffith ( Both Campuses ) and University Of Sunshine Coast For Bachelor of Medical Science/MD
I Have a ATAR of 99.95 and UCAT of 2930. ( ATAR is non-adjusted, if that makes a difference )
Likely to get an Offer?

 

[movpin]

Hello!
I am a WA Non-Rural School Leaver, Applying for Griffith ( Both Campuses ) and University Of Sunshine Coast For Bachelor of Medical Science/MD
I Have a ATAR of 99.95 and UCAT of 2930. ( ATAR is non-adjusted, if that makes a difference )
Likely to get an Offer?

Yes, you're almost guaranteed an offer, though unsure which campus this year since Griffith/USC are using UCAT to sort applicants on the same ATAR rank.

 

[Hard]

Yes, you're almost guaranteed an offer, though unsure which campus this year since Griffith/USC are using UCAT to sort applicants on the same ATAR rank.

Oh that sounds great! I was just concerned regarding the new rules of considering UCAT as Secondary Rank.
So My UCAT is not a problem I assume?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Oh that sounds great! I was just concerned regarding the new rules of considering UCAT as Secondary Rank.
So My UCAT is not a problem I assume?

My understanding is that your UCAT only becomes a problem when your ATAR is equal to the lowest successful ATAR and then all applicants with that ATAR are ranked on UCAT.

But it’s very unlikely 99.95 will be that ATAR so I’d say you’re safe. Your UCAT isn’t a problem because it’s not likely to be relevant.

(Assuming I’ve understood the process correctly!).

 

[Hard]

My understanding is that your UCAT only becomes a problem when your ATAR is equal to the lowest successful ATAR and then all applicants with that ATAR are ranked on UCAT.

But it’s very unlikely 99.95 will be that ATAR so I’d say you’re safe. Your UCAT isn’t a problem because it’s not likely to be relevant.

(Assuming I’ve understood the process correctly!).

Ahh Gotcha, Thanks for the info!

 

[SLM]

Hello, some news about Griffith's provisional entry pathway!

For 2025 entry onwards, some changes have been made to the Bachelor of Medical Science:
- The minimum GPA required to progress to the Doctor of Medicine has been increased from 5.0 to 5.5.
- UCAT ANZ will now be introduced for second order ranking of applicants with the same ATAR. You'll still be considered for selection if you don't sit the UCAT, but you will be ranked at the bottom of your ATAR band. The score used will be the total (excluding SJT).
- Incremental adjustments have now been introduced, up to a maximum of 0.20 points added to the ATAR. This includes rurality, EAS and location.

Adjustment factors

Adjustment factors may boost your selection rank and can improve your chances of gaining a place in your preferred degree at Griffith.

www.griffith.edu.au

- The course structure has changed to fit in more elective courses - current students only have 2 electives which can only be taken in 2nd year, but commencing students from 2025 will have 8 electives across both years of the degree.
- Applicants must now have finished secondary school studies up to 1 year prior to application instead of 3 years.

As far as I'm aware, nothing has changed in the Doctor of Medicine.

So what does this mean for applicants?

From my perspective as a current 1st year MedSci at Nathan, the new admissions process puts a lot of weight on UCAT ANZ. This year's intake has been larger than recent years (40 at Nathan and 47 at GC against 30 places at each campus) and I imagine Griffith's going to clamp down on numbers from next year. Incremental adjustments, especially the +0.05 for QLD students, will mean there will be a lot more applicants with 99.95s and 99.90s so that the UCAT ANZ will be the deciding factor as to who gets a place.

I think Griffith's BMedSci used to be seen as one of the best options for applicants with a less competitive UCAT as the admissions process was 100% ATAR, but with adjustments and UCAT added, I wonder how things will change. Since this will be the first time Griffith is using the UCAT for MedSci, I have no idea what would be a competitive UCAT score.

I also think the cohort atmosphere might be different with these changes. My cohort at Nathan is really close, and the old prerequisite of completing school up to 3 years before application gave us a good range of ages for more variety of perspectives and life experiences. Our 1st year is all core courses as well, and all of us have really bonded by working together for all our assignments and tasks - I wonder if next year's cohort will have the same family dynamic with electives right from the first trimester?

Just to add that the new minimum GPA of 5.5, introduction of UCAT ANZ, and completing secondary school up to 1 year prior to application will also apply to USC's Bachelor of Medical Science.

Do you know what “location” adjustment means.
Also is there any benefit to applying through UAC versus QTAC?

 

[Hard]

Do you know what “location” adjustment means.
Also is there any benefit to applying through UAC versus QTAC?

Basically from what is stated in the website, you get a boost of 0.05 ATAR points if your from Queensland or Northern NSW

"Location adjustments for the Gold Coast campus offering of the Bachelor of Medical Science: 0.05 points to residents of Queensland and residents of Northern NSW.
Location adjustments for the Nathan campus offering of the Bachelor of Medical Science: 0.05 points to residents of Queensland."

I believe you can only apply via QTAC now. Though Not Sure.

 

[gecokcs]

Hi, if I get a 99.85 ATAR is it guaranteed that I get a spot in the provisional entry program (w high 99% UCAT), or does my ATAR need to be higher?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hi, if I get a 99.85 ATAR is it guaranteed that I get a spot in the provisional entry program (w high 99% UCAT), or does my ATAR need to be higher?

In previous years, this has been enough for a spot somewhere. There’s no such thing as a guarantee when spots are dependent on the number of applicants, but 99.85 gives you a great shot.

 

[alice888]

I do recommend trying to do your courses on Nathan, it just means you have more support from peers and it is more fun. Also note that the GC medsci kids don't do the same subjects as us, so its not like you will have them in your classes. Sorry I couldn't give you a more definite answer :/

Hello,

Could that be the reason why GC Medsci is not doing the same subjects as Nathan’s program? Thanks a lot for sharing!

 

[HappyMongoose]

Hello.

I got a 99.80 ATAR (99.85 adjusted) and a 2770 UCAT. What is my chance of getting into medicine at Griffith University (GC / Nathan)

 

[2xq]

Hello,

Could that be the reason why GC Medsci is not doing the same subjects as Nathan’s program? Thanks a lot for sharing!

So there's two reasons that I can think of.
1) the requirement set out by the university as per the degree course page:
"Note: It is a program requirement that all Bachelor of Medical Science students only enrol in courses offered at their designated home campus."
To my understanding, this would mean that if you were to go to Nathan, then you do the subjects at the Nathan campus and so forth with GC.

2) Some units simply aren't offered at both campuses
e.g.(Note that both units say Incompatible with 2007MSC Microbiology. Likely due to them being similar units to each other.)

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[A1]

Hello.

I got a 99.80 ATAR (99.85 adjusted) and a 2770 UCAT. What is my chance of getting into medicine at Griffith University (GC / Nathan)

Offer round isn't far away but since you asked ...

Tbh your chance doesn't look great for GC/Nathan so I won't go into detail.
You should have a reasonable chance for USC though, did you apply?

 

[HappyMongoose]

Offer round isn't far away but since you asked ...

Tbh your chance doesn't look great for GC/Nathan so I won't go into detail.
You should have a reasonable chance for USC though, did you apply?

I did.

Thanks for the response .
I am just trying to figure out the logistics of where I study.

 

[Hard]

Hey Guys!
What do you believe will be the cut-off for Griffith ( Nathan + GC ) & USC for Bachelor of Medical Science 2025,

Will it be around +0.10 due to the adjustments for Rural, EAS & Location?
Making it 99.90 for GC & USC , 99.95 for Nathan?

Just want to hear your thoughts, Thanks for your time!