HSFY 2019

[Bootleg]

Hi Bootleg,

Which thread are you referring to? Also, can you clarify which category/programme this applies to?

It's not really possible for a first year Auckland student to apply for health-sciences professional programmes (exception Oral Health) at Otago under the HSFY category. It would be if they were applying under the graduate category. Although, I don't recall reading anything like this on MSO (I have read most, if not all, of the NZ posts dating back to 2004 or 2005).

- edit -

If you have been looking at old offers-threads, pay attention to whether people applied under the FY (OLY1) category or the graduate category. You may have been reading posts from graduate category applicants.

Hi Stuart,

I got confused, with graduate entry. Thanks for clearing it up!

 

[Bootleg]

Hi everyone,

Just a quick question. On the medicine admission page it says that no paper less than 70%, if I was achieve to a 69% in one of the 7 core papers, but did a 8th paper and achieved something >70%. Am I still eligible to apply for med?

 

[rustyedges]

Hi everyone,

Just a quick question. On the medicine admission page it says that no paper less than 70%, if I was achieve to a 69% in one of the 7 core papers, but did a 8th paper and achieved something >70%. Am I still eligible to apply for med?

Nope, must be above 70% in the core 7. Below 70% in an optional 8th paper is fine though.

 

[Bootleg]

Thanks for you reply,

Do we only get one chance at HSFY? meaning if I was to 'bomb' my first year, then do another degree (not related to science) and come back for grad entry, can I do a repeat of HSFY?

 

[rustyedges]

Thanks for you reply,

Do we only get one chance at HSFY? meaning if I was to 'bomb' my first year, then do another degree (not related to science) and come back for grad entry, can I do a repeat of HSFY?

Yes only one chance through hsfy. Then you can apply through the graduate category if you do a degree.

 

[Stuart]

When I apply for grad, will they use my previous HSFY marks or can I repeat HSFY again?

Hi, Bootleg,

As rustyedges has already said above, you cannot do HSFY again. If you meant to take the papers again, then it's still a no because one cannot take a paper again once a pass is achieved.

 

[frootloop]

When I apply for grad, will they use my previous HSFY marks or can I repeat HSFY again?

For graduate entry, you have to have passed (gotten 50%+) in all 7 HSFY papers - the 70% rule does not apply for graduate entry.

Your first year grades are still taken into account for graduate entry. However, the three years of a 'standard' undergraduate degree are weighted 0.5 : 1 : 1.5 (I think it's something like 0.5 : 0.8 : 1.2 : 1.5 for four-year degrees and honours degrees).

So if you bomb HSFY, those grades are worth only half of what your second year marks are worth, and one third of what your third year grades are worth. Which means you still have a very good chance to turn it around if HSFY goes badly for you - and many people have done just that.

But as has been said above, you absolutely cannot repeat HSFY. In Auckland you can (or at least used to be able to) repeat first year to try and get in through the first year pathway again, but not at Otago. It's not even considered a brilliant idea at Auckland, because if you miss out again then you've wasted a year - unlike doing the second year of a degree.

 

[Bootleg]

Just out of curiosity, is Level 3 bio a must? I was thinking about doing some self study in the term break to prepare. Should be enough?

 

[Stuart]

Just out of curiosity, is Level 3 bio a must?

Hi Bootleg,

No, it is not a must. You may find that there are some similarities with Level 1 or Level 2 standards, but it really is not necessary. If anything, take physics and/or chemistry instead.

 

[footballguy]

Hi guys,


Im a first year engineering student at the university of auckland. My gpa is okay/average (for engineering) at 4.5 and i still got this semester’s papers to bump it higher however i’m realising that engineering isn’t for me, something i aint passionate about and something i don’t purely enjoy. As engineering requires a lot of maths and problem solving, i’m not the best at maths nor problem solving so i don’t think engineering will work for me. I heard that in medicine the learning/material style is different, less problem solving and more remembering and that’s something i’m good at as i’m really good at chemistry.


Im considering applying for HSFY at the university of otago as i really am interested in medicine and how the body works etc but the problem is that i don’t have any biology background from high school. Although on the “myTuition” website A guide to studying medicine in NZ

They say that at otago the subjects ‘needed’ are chem and physics from year 13 and the subjects ‘nice to have’ include biology. That doesn’t make sense to me..


To any HSFY students, how is the learning style? Is it similar to engineering(problem solving, maths, calculations etc)

Also would i be okay doing HSFY without high school biology ?

And finally would you recommend this switch form Engineering at UoA to HSFY?

 

[Stuart]

Hi footballguy ,

Welcome to MSO.

First of all, in my biased opinion, MSO is the best third-party source when it comes to admissions. There are no prerequisites like that for HSFY. Some NCEA Level 3 standards may be beneficial, but they are not compulsory. I wouldn't worry about it, especially that you are not a secondary school student.

Second of all, it's unlikely that you will be able to do HSFY because of your tertiary background. You should be able to find more information about that on the university website.

Third of all, most jobs require problem-solving abilities. If you don't think being a doctor is a problem-solving job, you might want to think again.

Finally, I think you should consider the FY option at Auckland or the Graduate Category option at Auckland/Otago.

If you don't mind, why exactly do you want to study medicine? There is a whole lot of other careers which involve understanding the human body systems, including engineering.

 

[footballguy]

Hi footballguy ,

Welcome to MSO.

First of all, in my biased opinion, MSO is the best third-party source when it comes to admissions. There are no prerequisites like that for HSFY. Some NCEA Level 3 standards may be beneficial, but they are not compulsory. I wouldn't worry about it, especially that you are not a secondary school student.

Second of all, it's unlikely that you will be able to do HSFY because of your tertiary background. You should be able to find more information about that on the university website.

Third of all, most jobs require problem-solving abilities. If you don't think being a doctor is a problem-solving job, you might want to think again.

Finally, I think you should consider the FY option at Auckland or the Graduate Category option at Auckland/Otago.

If you don't mind, why exactly do you want to study medicine? There is a whole lot of other careers which involve understanding the human body systems, including engineering.

hi there, actually I looked up on the university of Otago website and it states that actually I can get into HSFY considering I have a GPA of 4

 

[Stuart]

hi there, actually I looked up on the university of Otago website and it states that actually I can get into HSFY considering I have a GPA of 4

Hi,

Can you link the website for me, please?

It usually requires special considerations, it's often dependent on the amount and the level of studies, not your grades. It's also possible that they have recently updated the information.

 

[footballguy]

Hi,

Can you link the website for me, please?

It usually requires special considerations, it's often dependent on the amount and the level of studies, not your grades. It's also possible that they have recently updated the information.

sorry bro I messed up https://www.otago.ac.nz/study/enrolment/entrypathways.html under "Previous tertiary study" bullet point 1, I thought they take our GPA and has to be a minimum of 4 but I didn't read properly, they state "only their results from their most recent equivalent two years of full-time enrolment will be considered" in the same bullet point.... so this means I can't do HSFY next year since I would've done only 1 year of tertiary study by the end of this year?

 

[Stuart]

sorry bro I messed up Entry Pathways, Enrolment, University of Otago, New Zealand under "Previous tertiary study" bullet point 1, I thought they take our GPA and has to be a minimum of 4 but I didn't read properly, they state "only their results from their most recent equivalent two years of full-time enrolment will be considered" in the same bullet point.... so this means I can't do HSFY next year since I would've done only 1 year of tertiary study by the end of this year?

Hi,

I would recommend looking through the HSFY because it is a special course and it has its own little rules - FAQs about admission into Health Sciences First Year (HSFY), Health Sciences First Year, University of Otago, New Zealand.

As far as I know, you have no chance of doing HSFY. However, I still encourage you to contact the admissions to confirm all the details.

 

[hopefulgal]

Hi,

I would recommend looking through the HSFY because it is a special course and it has its own little rules - FAQs about admission into Health Sciences First Year (HSFY), Health Sciences First Year, University of Otago, New Zealand.

As far as I know, you have no chance of doing HSFY. However, I still encourage you to contact the admissions to confirm all the details.

I actually have a HSFY friend who did engineering at UoA last year footballguy and they are studying here this year because there is no overlap in the content. You will be fine, I do believe there is some sort of consideration process you go through with otago but I don't see why you won't be able to do HSFY in 2019. Good luck

 

[footballguy]

I actually have a HSFY friend who did engineering at UoA last year footballguy and they are studying here this year because there is no overlap in the content. You will be fine, I do believe there is some sort of consideration process you go through with otago but I don't see why you won't be able to do HSFY in 2019. Good luck

hey thank you so much you've made me feel more hopeful! did they find HSFY easier overall compared to 1st year eng and are they doing well and on track to qualify for med?
I think the difficulty between the 2 courses depends on the person...
and yeah i have to talk to the administration guys and hope for a dispensation but I think ill be fine as engineering has literally no concepts of HSFY except for the physics paper. again thank you so much!!!!

 

[hopefulgal]

hey thank you so much you've made me feel more hopeful! did they find HSFY easier overall compared to 1st year eng and are they doing well and on track to qualify for med?
I think the difficulty between the 2 courses depends on the person...
and yeah i have to talk to the administration guys and hope for a dispensation but I think ill be fine as engineering has literally no concepts of HSFY except for the physics paper. again thank you so much!!!!

They're more than on track to qualify for med. I'm not sure if one could say HSFY is easier because tbh it assesses different qualities to the engineering course (honestly a question of your ability to memorise and regurgitate info). The physics paper should be renamed a maths paper for what its actually like - there is of course physics covered but the assessment is almost purely equation-based - and so long as you understood chemistry in school/are good at it (the HSFY chem is different to engineering chem), you will also be on track. feel free to PM me if you have any questions

 

[jaejoong]

HSFY 2019

Hey all, I just had a look online at the HSFY papers such as CHEM, PHSI, BIOC and it seems like they have reduced the number of lectures from 4 to 3 per week?? It seems like a lot will be changing for 2019 if that's the case (with the new UCAT too)...
Looks like it will be a good fresh beginning for those in 2019.

 

[academedical]

HSFY 2019

Hey all, I just had a look online at the HSFY papers such as CHEM, PHSI, BIOC and it seems like they have reduced the number of lectures from 4 to 3 per week?? It seems like a lot will be changing for 2019 if that's the case (with the new UCAT too)...
Looks like it will be a good fresh beginning for those in 2019.

Yep, and lecturers will be limited to a certain number of lecture slides per lecture (I think it's 26 slides...). There will be massive changes; the only disadvantage for you guys is that your tutors aren't really going to know what you've been taught because it'll have changed from their health sci year.