Non-standard Medicine Entry

[DrDrLMG!]

Got it, thanks! I have heard people, friends of friends, get into medicine as WSU through Med Science, and through Nursing. Would nursing be a viable option at Uni to get a high GPA. I do enjoy psychology, is that good for a high GPA? I genuinely have no idea about what degrees to go into. I can go into just about any degree with my Atar at most uni's, besides a select few, and Law, which I don't want to do anyways. It's 97.60 which is pretty low for med. Can you guys give me advice from experience.

I’m a Clinical Psychologist now studying Med and can answer any questions you have about that pathway! Psychology

 

[watermelona]

Hi! As of next year I will be a 1st year uni student and in the future I would love to study medicine. What are some possible pathways I can take to eventually transfer into medicine after 1st year, 2nd year and so on. Also which unis in aus accept transfers from 1st/2nd... year, ie undergrad transfers not from gamsat. Ive read many threads about not taking medsci as it is extremely competitive and offers very little job security on its own so i was thinking of taking psychology. Is there another undergrad degree that i could possibly take, that is still science related as my interests lie solely in the sciences, to help me eventually transfer into medicine or is psychology a relatively easy course to achieve a good gpa in (I was advised to take an easier course to allow me more time to prepare for ucat). And, how many years can u keep trying with ucat before u are eligible to sit the gamsat exam, say if the undergrad degree is 4 years? Thank you!

 

[Cal]

My uac still is only using my first semester results and not my whole year results. Do you reckon. I
It's too early to contact them to see what is going on? Because I kinda need them for unsw (although my atar would be very similar in terms of equivalent score)

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hi! As of next year I will be a 1st year uni student and in the future I would love to study medicine. What are some possible pathways I can take to eventually transfer into medicine after 1st year, 2nd year and so on. Also which unis in aus accept transfers from 1st/2nd... year, ie undergrad transfers not from gamsat. Ive read many threads about not taking medsci as it is extremely competitive and offers very little job security on its own so i was thinking of taking psychology. Is there another undergrad degree that i could possibly take, that is still science related as my interests lie solely in the sciences, to help me eventually transfer into medicine or is psychology a relatively easy course to achieve a good gpa in (I was advised to take an easier course to allow me more time to prepare for ucat). And, how many years can u keep trying with ucat before u are eligible to sit the gamsat exam, say if the undergrad degree is 4 years? Thank you!

1. “Which Aus unis accept transfers from 1st/2nd years...” Note, these are NOT transfers, they are non-standard applicants. This information is everywhere, please have a look around MSO for the answer.

A1 adds: A good place to start with is the Non-standard section in this table > [Undergrad] - (2019 Updated) Med schools Selection Criteria Y12s & Non-standards

2. “How many years can you keep trying UCAT before you are eligible to sit GAMSAT”. The two tests are completely unrelated. You never have to sit UCAT to be eligible for GAMSAT. Likewise, you can sit both UCAT and GAMSAT in the same year. This information is also on MSO already. Again, please read through some threads before posting your questions.

 

[ABT123]

My uac still is only using my first semester results and not my whole year results. Do you reckon. I
It's too early to contact them to see what is going on? Because I kinda need them for unsw (although my atar would be very similar in terms of equivalent score)

Just wondering, how can you tell that they are only using the first semester results?

 

[Cal]

Just wondering, how can you tell that they are only using the first semester results?

Because I have done two separate courses over the year and I put in half time for both of them. And it says that it has only collected the first sem despite satac and qtac both having them now and then being available since November.

 

[ucatsyd]

So I've received all my results for this 1 FTE year equating to 7.0 GPA, but I doubt all the TACs have updated this. Are there specific dates in which they re-update our tertiary results? or can I call them to ask about it?
tia

 

[Lyyrre]

So I've received all my results for this 1 FTE year equating to 7.0 GPA, but I doubt all the TACs have updated this. Are there specific dates in which they re-update our tertiary results? or can I call them to ask about it?
tia

It’s best that you contact each TAC individually to make sure they have updated your results. For example, I missed out on a December round interview at UNSW because UAC hadn’t finalised my results. When I contacted them, they already had access to my results but simply never updated it, and they updated on the day. Sometimes the TACs don’t always get round to it, it’s better for you to contact each TAC individually to make sure they update your results.

 

[Some guy]

So I've received all my results for this 1 FTE year equating to 7.0 GPA, but I doubt all the TACs have updated this. Are there specific dates in which they re-update our tertiary results? or can I call them to ask about it?
tia

Same here FWIW - my semester 2 results came out several weeks ago but UAC still hasn't updated the application.

Recommend ringing them on next working day - their internal processing might be slow but (in my experience) their helpdesk is very fast and efficient.

Btw congrats on 7.0 GPA!

 

[Cal]

Same here FWIW - my semester 2 results came out several weeks ago but UAC still hasn't updated the application.

Recommend ringing them on next working day - their internal processing might be slow but (in my experience) their helpdesk is very fast and efficient.

Btw congrats on 7.0 GPA!

I rung them yesterday, they didn't really have a reason just told me to upload an official transcript (which costs 25 bucks for me which I am not paying) if you can get a different result from contacting them it would be great if you could update us

 

[Some guy]

Will call them on 27th, to thank them for working the Christmas week (because I'm not, and I feel sorry for those that have to), and see if I can get a different answer to yours!

 

[Dacato10]

Hi, just wondering, is a 5.5 GPA hard to maintain for 3 years? Also, is 10 units a heavy workload?

 

[Cal]

Hi, just wondering, is a 5.5 GPA hard to maintain for 3 years? Also, is 10 units a heavy workload?

5.5 GPA isn't considered too hard for people who have scores above 90ish atar, but even then if you put the work in it is very much possible for most people. And yes 10 units is a very heavy workload. It is considered overloading and it is kinda risky especially for 3 straight years and if you have previously not been extremely dedicated to studies. They recommend you to have a GPA of 6.5 or above to overload at my uni. So be cautious on the side of overloading, so just look at the courses you will do and make a wise decision. One extra year won't make too much of a difference especially if you can get better marks for post-grad.

 

[Crow]

Hi, just wondering, is a 5.5 GPA hard to maintain for 3 years? Also, is 10 units a heavy workload?

This is incredibly subjective, but a 5.5 GPA would probably place you around the top 25% of university students, if that reflects anything of significance. Some people work incredibly hard to manage a 5.5, while others adjust to university very easily. There’s no real way to tell. By 10 units I assume you mean over the course of the year? I wouldn’t be starting with that unnecessarily - why are you in such a rush? You might find your GPA will suffer if you try to do that without any prior experience with university study. Most people study 4 units a semester at a maximum.

 

[Tee7]

Hi welcome to MSO. GPA 5+ allows you to apply (with an excellent GAMSAT score) to USyd; and possibly UQ if you have the prereq subjects in your undergrads. Or you can sit the UCAT and apply to undergrad med JMP, where you need approx 90+%ile UCAT to get an interview then it's all on the interview performance i.e. your low GPA does not disadvantage.

If I were you I would do that, rather than spending 3 more years of study for another undergrad degree. If you don't achieve GPA 6.5+ with the new degree it won't give you a lot more chances than what you have now.

EtA: Another option is to do one year of study, whether a Grad Dip or 1st year of undergrad course. GPA 6.5+ from this will also open the door to JCU, WSU, and possibly UNSW (half dependent on your ATAR).

Thank you so much, I don't think I can get into UQ but I might try for JCU. I might see what grad dip or undergraduate degree i might do for 2 semesters to get a good GPA and possibly apply for JCU in 2021.

 

[Hanna.S]

Hey there,
quick question regarding non standard undergrad medicine. I am planning to take the UCAT in 2020 and re apply for medicine after completing a year of science at uni in 2019. I had a WAM of 74.1 and don't really know how it converts to GPA. Are my uni marks good enough even if I get a competitive UCAt score?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hey there,
quick question regarding non standard undergrad medicine. I am planning to take the UCAT in 2020 and re apply for medicine after completing a year of science at uni in 2019. I had a WAM of 74.1 and don't really know how it converts to GPA. Are my uni marks good enough even if I get a competitive UCAt score?

You will need to convert your WAM manually using the final grade for each of the units you completed. For most unis, I think, 50-64 = 4, 65-74 = 5, 75-84 = 6, and 85+ = 7. Add all your units up and divide by total units to get your GPA.

Are you going to do second year BSc in 2020? If so, those results will also count in the same way.

 

[Hanna.S]

You will need to convert your WAM manually using the final grade for each of the units you completed. For most unis, I think, 50-64 = 4, 65-74 = 5, 75-84 = 6, and 85+ = 7. Add all your units up and divide by total units to get your GPA.

Are you going to do second year BSc in 2020? If so, those results will also count in the same way.

I am continuing BSc next year but the results are only released at the very end of the year so would that be too late for medicine applications?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

I am continuing BSc next year but the results are only released at the very end of the year so would that be too late for medicine applications?

Nope, they will be used

 

[Hanna.S]

Nope, they will be used

Thanks for your help! So if I achieve a GPA of 6 or higher and a competitive UCAT is it possible to get into an Australian Med school?