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Non-standard Medicine Entry

Hi, I'm a non-standard applicant and I was under the impression that UNSW, JMP and JPM do not have a separate pool for non-standards vs school-leavers? Is that still correct? (Content removed) unis have a certain number of available places for non-standards. Approximately 40 for JMP, 20 for JPM and 10 for UNSW. Now, I don't know where they got the numbers from but this just brought up some doubts for me so I wanted to confirm...are we still in the same pool as school-leavers?

Btw I know JCU is different in giving preference to school-leavers
 
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cherry19 said:
they stated that the above unis have a certain number of available places for non-standards. Approximately 40 for JMP, 20 for JPM and 10 for UNSW.
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I'd say these people are wrong, these schools don't have a separate pool with preset quota for non-standard.

We have heard from WSU & JMP students there were more non-standards than school leavers in their cohorts. We put that as thanks to the 75%-100% weights on the interview favouring the more matured applicants.

In a previous year I saw in UNSW stats non-standards were 1/3rd of the intake. But only 20-30 in 2022 non-school leaver categories. This could be due a number of non-standards qualified through their ATAR (instead of (ATAR+GPA)/2 Equiv in the past) so they're grouped into the ATAR category D(ii) in this link

> Admission to UNSW - Future Students - UNSW Sydney (pick Medicine in the Student Profile dropdown box)
 
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I'd say these people are wrong, these schools don't have a separate pool with preset quota for non-standard.

We have heard from WSU & JMP students there were more non-standards than school leavers in their cohorts. We put that as thanks to the 75%-100% weights on the interview favouring the more matured applicants.

In a previous year I saw in UNSW stats non-standards were 1/3rd of the intake. But only 20-30 in 2022 non-school leaver categories. This could be due a number of non-standards qualified through their ATAR (instead of (ATAR+GPA)/2 Equiv in the past) so they're grouped into the ATAR category D(ii) in this link

> Admission to UNSW - Future Students - UNSW Sydney (pick Medicine in the Student Profile dropdown box)
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Thank you for your reply🙏. Yep this explanation seems much more logical!
 
Hey,
I'm in my first year of BSc Biomed at UoA. I plan on applying to WSU, UNSW, JMP and JCU under the alternate admissions category.
However, my final exam for this semster is on the 4th of November with the uni saying results should come out 10-20 days afterwards. This is past when most of the schools predict they'll send out interview offers. Will this be an issue (as I will have done 2 FTEs by the end of the year but only completed 1 when I apply)? I know I should apply with how many I'll complete by the end of the year, but how do I deal with the lack of results when applying? Is there that I can do to ensure that my final grades for this semester are sent to the different universities to be considered for entry? Also, I am aware that some of these universities will take the better of your 1st year GPA or (in my case converted) ATAR score. Because I did high school in NZ, is there anything in specific that I need to do to get my NCEA L3 results converted to ATAR?
Thanks
 
hardlurker said:
Hey,
I'm in my first year of BSc Biomed at UoA. I plan on applying to WSU, UNSW, JMP and JCU under the alternate admissions category.
However, my final exam for this semster is on the 4th of November with the uni saying results should come out 10-20 days afterwards. This is past when most of the schools predict they'll send out interview offers. Will this be an issue (as I will have done 2 FTEs by the end of the year but only completed 1 when I apply)? I know I should apply with how many I'll complete by the end of the year, but how do I deal with the lack of results when applying? Is there that I can do to ensure that my final grades for this semester are sent to the different universities to be considered for entry? Also, I am aware that some of these universities will take the better of your 1st year GPA or (in my case converted) ATAR score. Because I did high school in NZ, is there anything in specific that I need to do to get my NCEA L3 results converted to ATAR?
Thanks
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This is not an issue and is common to many non-standard applicants, which you would be. WSU and JMP don't use GPA at all in determining interview invite eligibility and your full year results will be used by all universities when offers are made in Jan and Feb.
 
Hi.
For the JMP online application, for tertiary details, for duration, that's referring to the duration of study we would have completed by the end of the year, not the duration of the entire degree right?
Thank you.
 
Hi.
Does UAC obtain our academic results straight from the university? So, we don't need to upload any academic transcript documents on uac?
 
Hi, I have a question regarding the 1 FTE requirement to be competitive for non-standard unis. Although I meet the ATAR hurdles for WSU and JMP, I wanted to ask when they say "1 FTE in a program of study", this doesn't necessarily mean 1FTE in a specific major within your degree/program of study, right? I'm going to enter second year soon so I have to declare my major (s) within my program (right now it's undeclared) and was wondering if I decide to change my major (s) at any point, this wouldn't affect my eligibility in any way? Assuming all the courses I complete are still counting towards whichever major I choose.

Hope that makes sense!
 
cherry19 said:
Hi, I have a question regarding the 1 FTE requirement to be competitive for non-standard unis. Although I meet the ATAR hurdles for WSU and JMP, I wanted to ask when they say "1 FTE in a program of study", this doesn't necessarily mean 1FTE in a specific major within your degree/program of study, right? I'm going to enter second year soon so I have to declare my major (s) within my program (right now it's undeclared) and was wondering if I decide to change my major (s) at any point, this wouldn't affect my eligibility in any way? Assuming all the courses I complete are still counting towards whichever major I choose.

Hope that makes sense!
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Your understanding is correct. Declaring your major won’t affect your 1FTE.
 
Hi guys, I'm in my second year of uni, but in my first year of BSc and masters in nursing. I used to do medSCI last year, however I managed to screw it up pretty badly so I changed degrees for a "gpa reset". Do you guys reckon it'll affect my chances at entry into JCU med or dent?

Also what do u guys recommend with the "debating" part of the JCU interview. I've never been exposed to that sort of thing so I was hoping I'd also get some sort of advice on that.

Thank you so much in advance.
 
Hey so I asked UNSW if I can apply for both the Lat pathway and the normal tertiary pathway, and theyre giving me conflicting answers. Does the med portal recognise the same names etc? Or is this just booking issues
 
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Hey so I asked UNSW if I can apply for both the Lat pathway and the normal tertiary pathway, and there giving me conflicting answers. Does the med portal recognise the same names etc? Or is this just booking issues
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I don’t think you can. You make one written application on their portal and you can only specify one entry scheme.
 
JeydinNewWon said:
I don’t think you can. You make one written application on their portal and you can only specify one entry scheme.
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what if i use another email and a receipt number to specify another entry scheme, since you login to the portal that way

like they're independent pathways (they're different interview pools, right? plus one is undergrad, the other is technically graduate, so its not as absurd as trying for both gateway and regular stream), doing the interview for one doesnt bump your odds of getting accepted through the other (apart from confidence? tbf what makes this icky compared to learning from interviews in other schools? possible overlap of interviewers?), besides, the duration and structure of your study should you get in is a bit different, so i dont think it should be considered unfair

unsw's official sites never said anything about medsci's going through the tertiary paths, and neither does the lat's criteria explicitly come with a condition you cant apply as a tert nonstandard

I'm more concerned about interview clashes at this point, im fine if it ultimately boils down to "portal recognises existing details, treats you as a third party using said details, breaking the agreement and therefore no"

but if i am allowed to make two applications with different emails with distinctly different and independent pathways, is it just on me to book interviews wisely?

god i hate it when unsw future students occasionally talks out of their ass after skimming over context so i have to ask again to address the contradictions 🙃

[MedStudentsOnline.com.au] Non-standard Medicine Entry[MedStudentsOnline.com.au] Non-standard Medicine Entry

note how it doesnt say 'either...or...' but 'both... at the same time'
so i cant be misinterpreting this
lmao i sound sketchy as hell
 
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mojokenobo said:
you know what forget what i said its probably not gonna work as jayden said
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Yeah, I read your initial replies and was like… ‘ahhh… I don’t think so’ but wasn’t sure how to break it to you!! Do you reckon you’ll go general entry or risk it for one of the (up to) 10 slots?
 
LMG! said:
Yeah, I read your initial replies and was like… ‘ahhh… I don’t think so’ but wasn’t sure how to break it to you!! Do you reckon you’ll go general entry or risk it for one of the (up to) 10 slots?
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starting for year 1 all over to go for 6 years at the same school (im not sure how much transfer credit is gonna work, if at all) seems a little tedious, and if i can book interviews wisely (dodging the exam block) for other unis for nonstandard (wsu and uon, which go for 5 years anyway), yeah id much rather risk for the 10 spots
hopefully third time's the charm with ucat (yes i improved from last year, but not an amazing amount. however, i broke through the 90th percentile and i learned from my mistakes, so what's stopping me from pushing it up to 99th percentile?)
wam isnt too big of an issue
yes its exhausting but is the wam-ucat combo really that ridiculous? someone claimed they knew someone with a crazy high ucat (didnt specify percentile, but im assuming 99th), but they had a surprisingly low wam (77)
i remember seeing on mso the 87.5 wam/88 percentile combo (wasnt that for 2021?)
since its such small sample, do you really expect the (up to) top 10 to fluctuate that much in wam-ucat combos over the years?
fingers crossed i dont f up interviews
i know, its not an excuse to slack off one for the other
i think ill plan in greater detail during the holidays, assuming i dont just miraculously get interview offers from uon etc this year
 
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