Otago HSFY chat - archive

[Scheppes]

im very interested, very. after getting a bad umat result, im contemplating doing HSFY at otago, can someone tell the how to register for it though and when the deadline is?? for rego

 

[Scheppes]

I came up with the idea of forming some sort of a study group whereby me and several others can meet up like once or twice a week and discuss questions/answers related to HSFY papers as well as UMAT and interview p rep (for Dent hopefuls). We can meet up at the library or at someone's college, or wherever...but if you're interested, let me know and we'll sort something out. I was thinking like, throughout the year during the meet-ups we mainly focus on concepts/questions that we don't understand and together, we can find the solution and help each other out. A mutual relationship. Then nearing the end of the semesters before exams begin, we can start focusing on past papers. Also, during the long break after 1st semester exams, we can sort out UMAT study sessions etc. Together, we can keep each other motivated and focussed on our primary goal - getting into med/dent. As Henry Ford once said - “Coming together is a beginning. Keeping together is progress. Working together is success.”

Let's do it guys n gals! ^_^

im very interested, very. after getting a bad umat result, im contemplating doing HSFY at otago, can someone tell the how to register for it though and when the deadline is?? for rego

 

[Deleted member 4350]

If you're getting a bad UMAT result, I would recommend trying for Auckland. Otago favours the UMAT less for post grad, Auckland favours the UMAT less for undergrad. Depends which category you are applying under

 

[ericlkh]

If you're getting a bad UMAT result, I would recommend trying for Auckland. Otago favours the UMAT less for post grad, Auckland favours the UMAT less for undergrad. Depends which category you are applying under

In Auckland if you are aiming for medicine there is an interview. Also applying Auckland means you don't have the option to do dent but on the other hand you have the option to do optometry

 

[patkirtan]

If it's an average UMAT, don't be disheartened. Keep working hard, you might still be able to get in. But if you really think it's post grad - really sucks to hear that. Was really was keen for you to get in.

All the best with your finals and congrats with all of your results guys. So many people at my hostel are getting freakin' amazing marks! :blink:

Naw, Post-grad, i'm sure i'll get in then... 2 more years of UMAT, i'm bound to get better. My section 2 was way too low.

>.<

Oh well. I don't give up. EVER. :wacko:

Lol, they changed dent entry method.
They only choose you AFTER your interview based on GPA now. That means all the smart AND people with GOOD umat get taken by the dent faculty. Good luck, whoever is in the race.

 

[greenglacier]

Lol, they changed dent entry method.
They only choose you AFTER your interview based on GPA now. That means all the smart AND people with GOOD umat get taken by the dent faculty. Good luck, whoever is in the race.

I'm pretty sure that's how the dent school have (theoretically) always done it.

Are you absolutely sure that your UMAT is too low? Have you looked at my table elsewhere on this website?

 

[patkirtan]

I'm pretty sure that's how the dent school have (theoretically) always done it.

Are you absolutely sure that your UMAT is too low? Have you looked at my table elsewhere on this website?

Are you sure? I've heard someone with B+ got into Dent last year.

Yeah I've seen your table. I need to do something Crazy [ wait, no CRAZIER] like Sasol to get in without waiting list.
^_^ I'll just post-grad.

 

[papermoth]

im very interested, very. after getting a bad umat result, im contemplating doing HSFY at otago, can someone tell the how to register for it though and when the deadline is?? for rego

If you're in year 12 this year or have yet to start university then HSFY would be a good option. You'd get a second shot at UMAT. Plus UMAT is weighed differently at Otago (sec 1 45%, sec 2 45% and sec 3 only 10%).

Entrance is basically open- pretty minimal requirements. So there should be no trouble there.

Reg closes dec 10. But I'd decide fast as you'd probably have to apply for a hall of residence. They say there's no deadline for hall apps but in reality if you want first round consideration it should of been sent mid Sept. So yeah think fast.

 

[greenglacier]

Are you sure? I've heard someone with B+ got into Dent last year.

That's why I said theoretically. The official statement on the health sciences website is the same this year as last year, but there are enough strange decisions to make me suspect that the policy is really just a guideline.

Yeah I've seen your table. I need to do something Crazy [ wait, no CRAZIER] like Sasol to get in without waiting list.
^_^ I'll just post-grad.

Nevermind then. I posted a document on this thread about november/december last year outlining options for graduate entry if you can be bothered looking it up.

 

[OtagoLol]

Most recent or highest score in UMAT?

When applying for Medicine and Dentistry, do they look at your UMAT with the highest score or the most recent score? (assuming we do it twice)
I know that Auckland definitely looks at most recent only.
This post https://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/showthread.php?t=4804#Undergraduate states that they look at your highest score for medicine, but it was written in 2007. (under Entry into medicine -> undergraduate)

On Otago Unis official website, it says it will use ur most recent mark. https://healthsci.otago.ac.nz/admissions/pp09_guidelines.html#s (scroll down to 1.19 UMAT).

This is again repeated in the Physiotherapy page https://www.otago.ac.nz/courses/qualifications/bphty.html#1 (go to admissions, scroll to notes, (2))

But on the official Medicine page https://www.otago.ac.nz/courses/qualifications/mbchb.html#1 , where physiotherapy has the UMAT info, the medicine page doesnt. The Dentistry page does not say either.

So right now im kinda confused as i have 2 sources saying two different things. Could anyone who actually got into med in otago recently give a definitive answer?

Thanks!

 

[papermoth]

Highest.

You really didn't need to make two threads.

 

[greenglacier]

When applying for Medicine and Dentistry, do they look at your UMAT with the highest score or the most recent score? (assuming we do it twice)
I know that Auckland definitely looks at most recent only.
This post https://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/showthread.php?t=4804#Undergraduate states that they look at your highest score for medicine, but it was written in 2007. (under Entry into medicine -> undergraduate)

On Otago Unis official website, it says it will use ur most recent mark. https://healthsci.otago.ac.nz/admissions/pp09_guidelines.html#s (scroll down to 1.19 UMAT).

This is again repeated in the Physiotherapy page https://www.otago.ac.nz/courses/qualifications/bphty.html#1 (go to admissions, scroll to notes, (2))

But on the official Medicine page https://www.otago.ac.nz/courses/qualifications/mbchb.html#1 , where physiotherapy has the UMAT info, the medicine page doesnt. The Dentistry page does not say either.

So right now im kinda confused as i have 2 sources saying two different things. Could anyone who actually got into med in otago recently give a definitive answer?

Thanks!

They use the best score.

This policy changed from most recent just last year, hence the confusion. The links you have provided saying most recent are outdated (e.g. 2009) and so reflect past policy. Currently they definitely use the best score. Email the admissions office if you want official confirmation.

 

[OtagoLol]

Highest.

You really didn't need to make two threads.

Thanks, sorry about that.

They use the best score.

This policy changed from most recent just last year, hence the confusion. The links you have provided saying most recent are outdated (e.g. 2009) and so reflect past policy. Currently they definitely use the best score. Email the admissions office if you want official confirmation.

Thanks for clearing that up for me!(yy)

 

[the_international]

Hey lol @ the small mistake in the EPI test if you had version 3
what did you guys say would be an appropriate thing to conduct a RCT on?
and also to study if high blood pressure increases risk of stroke would you use a cohort or case-control study? was unsure on that i put cohort though since the framingham heart study did a similar thing. And for the dehumidifies and resp illness I also put cohort? anyone agree/disagree

anndd the unintentional injuries = was it the road traffic injury answer (across all age groups), and the alcohol Q = pattern of drinking one; was it adverse effects are linked with large drinking or something along the lines of that

also was unsure about the alcohol questions.. cant believe the answers were in the readings in the lecture book i should have read them more carefully; what did you guys put down for what they do was it educate young or raise price? because the book says educate young is favourable but not effective, but raising price is not favourable so i assumed what they actually DO is educate young?

hope you guys went well

 

[patkirtan]

Hey lol @ the small mistake in the EPI test if you had version 3
what did you guys say would be an appropriate thing to conduct a RCT on?
and also to study if high blood pressure increases risk of stroke would you use a cohort or case-control study? was unsure on that i put cohort though since the framingham heart study did a similar thing. And for the dehumidifies and resp illness I also put cohort? anyone agree/disagree

anndd the unintentional injuries = was it the road traffic injury answer (across all age groups), and the alcohol Q = pattern of drinking one; was it adverse effects are linked with large drinking or something along the lines of that

also was unsure about the alcohol questions.. cant believe the answers were in the readings in the lecture book i should have read them more carefully; what did you guys put down for what they do was it educate young or raise price? because the book says educate young is favourable but not effective, but raising price is not favourable so i assumed what they actually DO is educate young?

hope you guys went well

I put RCT for anything that "reduces" an outcome.
stroke i put cohort, since high blood pressure isn't a transient exposure, recall bias with case control etc etc.. but who knows haha.


insulation reducing respiratory illness one i put rct, because i'm dumb haha...

( i didn't choose cohort because it doesn't fit into that study well [well that's what i thought during the pressue of the test] because of confounding, those ppl with insulation in their homes may be of higher SES, therefore confounding can come into play, are those households better equipped with healthcare etc therefore there seems to be an association that those who have insulation seem to have lower risk of respiratory disease) - i may have over thought this.... but at that time all i thought was, RCT would be WAY easier to deal with this then cohort .... and it had "reduce" in the statement... lol OH WELL ><

alc i put educate young on effects of binge drinking or something, because increasing prices affects the whole population and the lecture slide showed that 18-24 are the ones who binge drink the most. the other inform youth was just saying alcohol drinking is OVERALL BAD for health, but isn't it the drinking pattern which is bad.. so yah...


unintentional injury was leading cause of death in young people, because as you get older self inflected injury is the major cause of death and falls in 65+ yr olds[from the lecture slide]

As you can see i think A LOT during Epi tests.

 

[kojiko]

I put RCT for anything that "reduces" an outcome.
stroke i put cohort, since high blood pressure isn't a transient exposure, recall bias with case control etc etc.. but who knows haha.


insulation reducing respiratory illness one i put rct, because i'm dumb haha...

( i didn't choose cohort because it doesn't fit into that study well [well that's what i thought during the pressue of the test] because of confounding, those ppl with insulation in their homes may be of higher SES, therefore confounding can come into play, are those households better equipped with healthcare etc therefore there seems to be an association that those who have insulation seem to have lower risk of respiratory disease) - i may have over thought this.... but at that time all i thought was, RCT would be WAY easier to deal with this then cohort .... and it had "reduce" in the statement... lol OH WELL ><

alc i put educate young on effects of binge drinking or something, because increasing prices affects the whole population and the lecture slide showed that 18-24 are the ones who binge drink the most. the other inform youth was just saying alcohol drinking is OVERALL BAD for health, but isn't it the drinking pattern which is bad.. so yah...


unintentional injury was leading cause of death in young people, because as you get older self inflected injury is the major cause of death and falls in 65+ yr olds[from the lecture slide]

As you can see i think A LOT during Epi tests.

There are two population stratergies outlined in the course book though; and the Q asked what was being applied (iirc) and one is raising price and the other was to educate the young on drinking; thats why I didn't put educate young and adults on binge drinking because that isnt being applied.
But who knows

 

[patkirtan]

There are two population stratergies outlined in the course book though; and the Q asked what was being applied (iirc) and one is raising price and the other was to educate the young on drinking; thats why I didn't put educate young and adults on binge drinking because that isnt being applied.
But who knows

Oh great, I potentially got between 1-3 questions wrong already ><

 

[kojiko]

Lol I think I did too, dont worry.
What did you get for the 4 mark strat question with physical activity and what mg did you recommend (clinical significance Q)

 

[patkirtan]

Lol I think I did too, dont worry.
What did you get for the 4 mark strat question with physical activity and what mg did you recommend (clinical significance Q)

There's no point for me to come to this forum anymore.
Not discussing/ looking at my internal marks anymore, just going to focus on the finals now.

 

[peterpanda]

Hi, I just heard from my friend that Otago might have interviews for Med next year?? Is that true?