Otago HSFY chat - archive

[Cathay]

Does anyone know where you can get tutors? Is it arrange-by-yourself, or can you get a list of possible tutors somewhere?

Depends on what you mean by that. If by "tutor" you mean the tutor in your HEAL192 tutorial class, then you're automatically assigned to a tutorial session with its corresponding tutor. If you mean tutorials at a hall, that's also pre-arranged by your hall. If you mean private tutoring, that's entirely your business - private tutoring is not an official (let alone compulsory) part of the course and there will not be official guidance, it's something you have the option of investing in, and who you invest in would be entirely up to you. If you want a "list of possible tutors", check the department notice boards and the St David notice board for adverts.

 

[Nimbus2000]

Does anyone know where you can get tutors? Is it arrange-by-yourself, or can you get a list of possible tutors somewhere?

jonathan if you mean a private tutor for HSFY, I actually saw an ad for one on the notice boards inside the UIC/Info Tech Services Building today -- erm, I just saw it whilst scanning for textbooks, so I don't really have any of the details, but I'm sure if you go there you'll find it!

Wait, no one told me about lab coats.

LOL, exactly what I was thinking when I saw it!

 

[skyglow1]

There will be a million advertisements for private tutoring in the weeks to come.

 

[brin]

How come? You know how easy it is, and it hardly takes any time..

[offtopic]Also, pre-welcome to hatbox in 2 more posts.[/offtopic]

Sure it's easy, but I still find the notion of writing an essay for the sake of demonstrating I can speak my native language a tad unnecessary.

 

[Cathay]

Sure it's easy, but I still find the notion of writing an essay for the sake of demonstrating I can speak my native language a tad unnecessary.

Meh, how is the uni to know you can speak your native language, without said essay?

 

[frootloop]

Meh, how is the uni to know you can speak your native language, without said essay?

The fact that he has UE from a New Zealand secondary school, which one would assume instructs in English

 

[Cathay]

The fact that he has UE from a New Zealand secondary school, which one would assume instructs in English

Far-fetched hypothetical scenario: one doesn't understand very much of the English instructions, and relies on tutors translating technical words to understand the material and rote-learns key phrases for answering exam questions. (Very Asian, I know, but potentially possible )

EDIT: Also, just getting UE with achieved credits, depending on subject studied (obviously not an English-rich one) be fairly easy without a good command of English.

 

[frootloop]

EDIT: Also, just getting UE with achieved credits, depending on subject studied (obviously not an English-rich one) be fairly easy without a good command of English.

You could argue similarly for HSFY. I don't really see the point in the diagnostic test, if you can't speak English, then even if you dominate HSFY, then UMAT/interviews (for dent/physio etc) will kill your chances--> Very few people who can't speak English properly will make it in anyway. IMO if you're silly enough to try and study at university in a language you can't speak, then it's kinda your problem, and the only one who will suffer because of it is you.
[offtopic] This rant brought to you by the indecipherable questions on the CELS peerwise page, written by someone who was living proof that you can pass the diagnostic test without speaking a word of English [/offtopic]

 

[greenglacier]

The test is easy enough that it really shouldn't matter to you guys either way. You'd be surprised at the english skills of some people in uni (and don't forget that if you're over 20 you don't even need UE). I think it's nice that the admissions office is doing something to ensure that everyone who gets into a professional course has a basic competency in communicating in the english language. (Rather than assuming they will)

You also need to remember the historical context - there used to be an english paper as a part of HSFY (and this was in the days before the 8th paper, so everything was guaranteed to count). When they removed it the test came in as a substitute.

 

[unidenj]

My mum works in the med school... people who cant speak english have made it through before lol! Embrassing fail for the english test haha

 

[greenglacier]

people who cant speak english have made it through before lol! Embrassing fail for the english test haha

I know... definitely shows that the test is there for a reason though

 

[frootloop]

I know... definitely shows that the test is there for a reason though

[offtopic]The test's predictive value sounds about as debatable as UMAT's [/offtopic]

 

[greenglacier]

[offtopic]

The test's predictive value sounds about as debatable as UMAT's

So you think there's a chance that someone who fails it twice actually has adequate english to get by in med?[/offtopic]

 

[Nimbus2000]

hey guys, i've just brought 3/6 textbooks, and have plans to grab a fourth one today (this makes me insanely happy, although I don't know why, probably extreme enthusiasm :/). I brought the textbooks for CHEM, HEAL, PHSI and am going to buy the one for hubs... I used the massive HSFY advice from MSO members thread to decide which ones to buy, but I'm just going to check - if trend does continue as it has for the past couple of years, I won't need the textbook for BIOC and CELS right?

 

[Cathay]

if trend does continue as it has for the past couple of years, I won't need the textbook for BIOC and CELS right?

Well every now and then, especially during the first GLM, you may wish to have access to a copy of the CELS book. The BIOC book is actually useless though.

 

[greenglacier]

Well every now and then, especially during the first GLM, you may wish to have access to a copy of the CELS book.

(Which you can very easily get at the library or borrow from someone at your hall)

 

[Profiterole]

Just wondering can anyone clarify how the labs and lectures are structured in relation to material taught for CHEM 191? (e.g are the labs based on topics covered in lectures?)

 

[juna]

Hey guys, I was wondering how much money we need to save each week for photocopying? Because I heard that in health science people spend a fortune on printing the slides. And do we print them from the library? Thanks

 

[greenglacier]

Printing is 10 cents per page. Photocopying is 7 cents, but you'll hardly do any photocopying.

How much printing you actually do is up to you - some people do none. If you want to print the slides, you can normally do so at 6 slides/page. HSFY lectures can have anywhere between 15-60 slides, normally about 25-30. You can print from the libraries, from computer pods around the uni, and from your hall.

 

[Wongtong]

Do you reckon we would be better off buying our own printer if we plan to print?